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Starlight_Lily

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Nope! Make sure you look at the other titles:

Swampasaur Planet
Project Swamp
Eternal Swampasaur
Swamp's Air Ride
Nevermind, theme was already guessed, that's what happens when you spend most o the day traveling I guess
 
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I think we're thinking about this "not the first choice" thing the wrong way- we don't know WHY he wasn't the first choice. For all we know, he wanted to be more open towards audiences other than Japan and that was worrisome for the other Japanese executives. We need to hold off from casting judgment until we see him do anything.
 

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According to Serebii, Super Mystery Dungeon will have 120 dungeons across the 5 continents of the game.
Huh. Nice.
 

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According to Serebii, Super Mystery Dungeon will have 120 dungeons across the 5 continents of the game.
Huh. Nice.
Waiting for the IGN review which gives it a 7.8/10 for having too many dungeons.
 

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I'm quite optimistic about the new president. Who knows? Maybe Kimishima can give Nintendo more presence in the West after this.
 

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A Nintendo Direct in October seems likelier now. I wonder if Kimishima will be presenting it.

At least for Japan, since NA and Europe have Reggie and Shibata, who have presented several Directs before, though considering he has worked on Nintendo of America, I guess he has some fluency in English.

And there's always the option of him presenting in Japanese with subtitles in other languages. Nothing wrong with that at all.


As I've stated before, Iwata could have realized that he wasn't going to survive the illness, thus being necessary to find a successor.
I'm positive( as sad as it is) that Iwata knew what was coming. He probably learned the survival rate, which is very low, he tried to cover up the weight loss so no one would worry, and the puppets at E3 definitely were planned far in advance and probably because of Iwata's poor health. He was a very smart man, and even in his last hours, he planned the future for the company, and wanted it to be all for the fans. I am curious as to why this guy isn't his most favorable choice and who were the other choices?
 

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Found this
'Okay, let me clear up some misconceptions here before you all go "Digimon ripoff". There's a reason why Zygarde's main formes are the way they are. Zygarde has links to Norse mythology, as its 50% forme (the one we've known since X/Y) is based on Nidhogg, the serpent that dwells in and gnaws at Yggdrassil's roots. The 10% forme (the dog) is based on Fenrir, the monstrous wolf which is the son of Loki. The Complete forme (the giant) is based on Surtr, an important figure in Ragnarok, referencing how this forme has greater power than Xerneas and Yveltal (as seen in the Adventures manga, battles between Xerneas and Yveltal are catastrophic). Complete Zygarde is also based on Hel, goddess of the underworld. Hel has one living, and one dead, side, referencing how Complete Zygarde has elements of Xerneas (its right) and Yveltal (its left) on both sides.''


Holy **** Sugimori went for the full monty with this guy. Or is Zygarde female because of Hel?
It's not that it's a Digimon ripoff, it's that you could cut this guy out of Pokemon and insert him into Digimon completely as-is and he'd fit right in, arguably more than he does here.

And this little Norse mythology thing doesn't explain why Zygarde has the black and neon green color scheme and the sci-fi hexagon pattern all over his body. Those are the things that make him look Digimonesque, because those things are heavily overused in sci-fi cyberpunk designs, which Digimon has always leaned on heavily.
 

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Poor Luigi.

Poor anyone in that family.

Mario because his parents were assholes who couldn't even give him a different first name.

Luigi because now he's saddled with his older brother's first name as a last name.

Poor Peach or Daisy if they marry into the family someday because now they sound like a flavoring of ''Mario."
 

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OH MY GOSH. THE MOVIE WAS RIGHT. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT.
This is an old story, but Hollywood did a film version of the Mario Bros. many years back. There was a scene in the script where they needed a last name for the characters. Somebody suggested that, because they were the Mario Bros., their last name should be Mario. So, they made him "Mario Mario." I heard this and laughed rather loudly. Of course, this was ultimately included in the film. Based on the film, that's [how] their names ended up. But, just like Mickey Mouse doesn't really have a last name, Mario is really just Mario and Luigi is really just Luigi.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/09/shigeru_miyamoto_mario_and_luigi_dont_have_last_names

Thats a contradiction to his statement in 2012.
 

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It's not that it's a Digimon ripoff, it's that you could cut this guy out of Pokemon and insert him into Digimon completely as-is and he'd fit right in, arguably more than he does here.

And this little Norse mythology thing doesn't explain why Zygarde has the black and neon green color scheme and the sci-fi hexagon pattern all over his body. Those are the things that make him look Digimonesque, because those things are heavily overused in sci-fi cyberpunk designs, which Digimon has always leaned on heavily.
I don't think there is any explanation for the hexagons, but I just copypasta'd, Khoru pointed out how 50% is based off of another one of Loki's kids. I don't get Digimon but I get Gundam from Complete form honestly. Colonists of Catan or whatever you guys call it uses hexagons as land spaces so eh
 

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I don't think there is any explanation for the hexagons, but I just copypasta'd, Khoru pointed out how 50% is based off of another one of Loki's kids. I don't get Digimon but I get Gundam from Complete form honestly. Colonists of Catan or whatever you guys call it uses hexagons as land spaces so eh
Hexagon patterns are used in boardgames because it removes the distinction between linear and diagonal movement. It creates a board where every adjacent space is the same distance from the space your on to any space it connects with, which is untrue of standard square-based tiles. It's not an aesthetic choice, but a gameplay one.

As an aesthetic choice, the Hexagon pattern is insanely overused in Sci Fi, particularly Sci Fi relating to computers or computer technology. Both Halo and Mass Effect make liberal use of the Hexagon pattern on tactile holographic displays. It's overused to such a degree that it instantly reads sci fi whenever it's used, but particularly when it's used in conjunction with a sleek black and neon green color scheme, which has been associated with computers for decades, most popularly in The Matrix. Since I've seen you, in particular, bring up TvTropes, the concept is known as 'High Tech Hexagons' over there, if you're curious to read more.

The pattern doesn't appear in Norse mythology, though, I can tell you that much.
 

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Poor Luigi.

Poor anyone in that family.

Mario because his parents were ******** who couldn't even give him a different first name.

Luigi because now he's saddled with his older brother's first name as a last name.

Poor Peach or Daisy if they marry into the family someday because now they sound like a flavoring of ''Mario."
Peach Mario rolls off the tongue pretty well. Better than Rosalina Mario.

At least it's not like Wario where he has no last name.
And maybe we can get more Metroid stuff!

Let me dream.
I can see Metroid but more Wario considering his contributions to both series. Doing it all for Gunpei Yokoi's great creations. (Since he probably stop caring about Kid Icarus YEARS after Myth and Monsters)
 

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Hexagon patterns are used in boardgames because it removes the distinction between linear and diagonal movement. It creates a board where every adjacent space is the same distance from the space your on to any space it connects with, which is untrue of standard square-based tiles. It's not an aesthetic choice, but a gameplay one.

As an aesthetic choice, the Hexagon pattern is insanely overused in Sci Fi, particularly Sci Fi relating to computers or computer technology. Both Halo and Mass Effect make liberal use of the Hexagon pattern on tactile holographic displays. It's overused to such a degree that it instantly reads sci fi whenever it's used, but particularly when it's used in conjunction with a sleek black and neon green color scheme, which has been associated with computers for decades, most popularly in The Matrix. Since I've seen you, in particular, bring up TvTropes, the concept is known as 'High Tech Hexagons' over there, if you're curious to read more.

The pattern doesn't appear in Norse mythology, though, I can tell you that much.
Found something
The patterns spread upon Zygarde's body are very similar to and may be based upon ribose and deoxyribose molecules. Its tail is possibly based in shape on base paircodons, the essential building blocks of the DNAdouble helix.
 

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I figured I'd share one of my Mario Maker levels as well. c: Please, if anyone plays it, do tell me what you think.

This course is meant to be completed without touching the controller!

"Tour Of The Auto-Castle"


ID: F636-0000-0038-3AC0
 

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I believe Zygarde's hexagonal patterns are meant to resemble ribose and deoxyribose molecules. It's tail even somewhat resembles base pair codons; the building blocks of DNA. I suppose it makes sense considering Zygarde is apparently made up of hundreds of Zygarde Cells.

What DNA has to do with Norse mythology is beyond me. All I know is that the legendaries of Kalos are based on creatures that lived in Yggdrasil. The stags (Xerneas), an unnamed eagle (Yveltal) and Níðhöggr (Zygarde).

Or something. :3
 
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The patterns spread upon Zygarde's body are very similar to and may be based upon ribose and deoxyribose molecules. Its tail is possibly based in shape on base paircodons, the essential building blocks of the DNAdouble helix.
Yes, carbon forms in hexagon patterns, because the hexagon pattern is one of the most stable and efficient building blocks found in nature. It's the same reason beehives are hexagons, and the Giant's Causeway in Ireland is built out of hexagonal rocks. Since Zygarde is based on cells, in that respect it's a clever choice to incorporate some sort of cell pattern on to it.

But I'm simply saying, they've chosen to use a design element that is heavily associated with sci fi computers; it's only natural for the end result to look like a character from a franchise that takes place inside a sci fi computer. The green and black color scheme only furthers the association.
 
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I believe the Zygarde's hexagonal patterns are meant to resemble ribose and deoxyribose molecules. It's tail even somewhat resembles base pair codons; the building blocks of DNA. I suppose it makes sense considering Zygarde is apparently made up of hundreds of Zygarde Cells.

What it has to do with Norse mythology is beyond me. All I know is that the legendaries of Kalos are based on creatures that lived in Yggdrasil. The stags (Xerneas), an unnamed eagle (Yveltal) and Níðhöggr (Zygarde).

Or something. :3
lol :4greninja:'ed on the hexagons

10% is Fenrir, a dog that was a son of Loki, very powerful and fearful beast, but got tricked and lost his freedom. Doubt that 10% would replicate that. 50% is also based on another Norse creature, who got banished by Odin. Complete is based on Sutur and Hel for Ragnarok and the blue/red marks on the wings
Yes, carbon forms in hexagon patterns, because the hexagon pattern is one of the most stable and efficient 'building blocks.' It's the same reason beehives are hexagons. Since Zygarde is based on cells, in many ways it's a clever choice to incorporate some sort of cell pattern on to it.

But I'm simply saying, they've chosen to use a design element that is heavily associated with sci fi computers; it's only natural for the end result to look like a character from a franchise that takes place inside a sci fi computer.
I want to say something about that. Digimon Tamers had stuff that wouldn't be unfitting for Pokemon, hell, Renamon and Kyuubimon resemble Ninetails and Lucario pretty well. Besides, Pokemon always used multiple different themes for their mons that you're bound to get some sci-fi looking stuff like Elgyem too
 

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I love all the Pokemon/Digimon comparisons despite Digimon being a Tomagachi ripoff and none don't have any similarities ever and most were coincidence.


Mega Evolutions are a different story
 

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I'm not even comparing Zygarde to any specific Digimon or Digimon aesthetic, nor am I saying it's a rip off. I'm saying this Pokemon is using the visual language of a sci fi computer robot monster, whether it intends to or not, and as it happens, there's a rival series all about sci fi computer robot monsters.
 

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I love all the Pokemon/Digimon comparisons despite Digimon being a Tomagachi ripoff and none don't have any similarities ever and most were coincidence.


Mega Evolutions are a different story
I thought Digimon was made by the same people involved in Tomagachi. Knowing me I'm wrongly thinking things again.

However, what I want since after all these years of Pokemon/Digimon comparisons ever since I was a kid....

PokemonxDigimon crossover movie when?
 
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I'm not even comparing Zygarde to any specific Digimon or Digimon aesthetic, nor am I saying it's a rip off. I'm saying this Pokemon is using the visual language of a sci fi computer robot monster, whether it intends to or not, and as it happens, there's a rival series all about sci fi computer robot monsters.
Oh, you mean like this?
 

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Well, Bamco owns Digimon yet from what I hear they've done almost nothing with it for years.

Wait. That means it's a possibility for Agumon to be in Smash
Digimon World has been getting games for awhile, they just don't get localized.

(though recently Cyber Sleuth was announced for an overseas digital release)

As for Smash, Digimon has always been a toy first, game franchise second.
 
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Holy **** I remember that thing. Wasn't it Angemon and Ankylomon fusing? I remember Xros Wars retconned the fusions or something
I fondly remember Shakkoumon, but always butcher the spelling. It was always a really cool fusion too, because it made sense. Fuse an angel and a dinosaur to get a Dogū, something that is both ancient and religious.
 

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Only in this thread can I find Vaanrose spittin' fire and laying down truth about carbon and hexagons!
 

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Digimon World has been getting games for awhile, they just don't get localized.

(though recently Cyber Sleuth was announced for an overseas digital release)

As for Smash, Digimon has always been a toy first, game franchise second.
They also announced a Rumble Arena 3 or something a while ago. Those were fun, I remember maining Renamon and Kabuterimon
 
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