Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

[N3ON]

Well ladies and gentlemen, we reached 1000 posts in support of our golden boy! Let's see how many more we'll get before we learn of Isaac's fate.

 

[Skyblade12]

A few extra items shown off last night. Don’t think any new ATs, though. Isaac is still in the running, as E3 ends.

 

[Zuppo]

This E3 was terrible, but at least it gave us a chance to continue support Isaac.
With smash they can give to Camelot help to male a GS4, introducing in the roster Isaac.. I’m only dreaming right now, but why not?

 

[Oniric Spriter]

My guess is that everyone who was an assist trophy in smash 4 got reused as one in this game. So his chances are a lot higher since he wasn't added back then.

 

[Skyblade12]

My guess is that everyone who was an assist trophy in smash 4 got reused as one in this game. So his chances are a lot higher since he wasn't added back then.

We haven’t seen a couple prominent ones. Ashley, Dark Samus, Skull Kid...

 

[LuminoZero]

WE'RE BACK IN BUSINESS, BABY!

Let's make it happen! Isaac for Smash!

 

[ThoughtfulWanderer]

We haven’t seen a couple prominent ones. Ashley, Dark Samus, Skull Kid...

Of all the missing ATs, I could only see Isaac, Ashley, and maybe Dillon as playable. Shadow, Dark Samus, and Isabelle could also be Echo fighters.

I know Skull Kid and Tingle have the popularity in at least one region, but I'd be utterly shocked if either of them made it. With all the work they've done to the Zelda veterans, Young Link's return, and not even to mention Impa's possible Echo inclusion, I doubt they would dedicate too much fanservice to one franchise.

 

[Skyblade12]

Of all the missing ATs, I could only see Isaac, Ashley, and maybe Dillon as playable. Shadow, Dark Samus, and Isabelle could also be Echo fighters.

I know Skull Kid and Tingle have the popularity in at least one region, but I'd be utterly shocked if either of them made it. With all the work they've done to the Zelda veterans, Young Link's return, and not even to mention Impa's possible Echo inclusion, I doubt they would dedicate too much fanservice to one franchise.

I agree.

I also think Dillon’s fan base is too small.

Ashley has a decent chance, though. Her following in Japan is massive.

 

[RandomAce]

A few extra items shown off last night. Don’t think any new ATs, though. Isaac is still in the running, as E3 ends.

What new items were shown off?

 

[RandomAce]

We haven’t seen a couple prominent ones. Ashley, Dark Samus, Skull Kid...

What items were shown?

 

[Malkior7]

Now that Ridley is in I can devote all of my support to Isaac since he is the only one left that I really want in.

I just hope the series in general doesn't get shafted

 

[Skyblade12]

What new items were shown off?

The Banana Gun is the main one I know of.

 

[N3ON]

If Sakurai added Ridley predominantly for the west it would seem fair for him to add Ashley for Japan, should her popularity there be as immense as it seems to be. I suppose she's probably the AT with best chance now that Waluigi failed to make the cut.

 

[RandomAce]

I wish they revealed all of the assist trophies off the bat. The fact that there 50+ after last times I think 30? Means that there were many added and brought back.

I don’t like the idea of Issac being revealed as AT a month before the game launches, that’d make me SALTY!

 

[N3ON]

I wish they revealed all of the assist trophies off the bat. The fact that there 50+ after last times I think 30? Means that there were many added and brought back.

I don’t like the idea of Issac being revealed as AT a month before the game launches, that’d make me SALTY!

I feel you. But I'd take a month before launch over not until launch (or at all) as was the case for Brawl and 4. -_-;

 

[otarolgam]

Here to show my support for Isaac! Let's get him in!

 

[Skyblade12]

Takamaru. Midna. Waluigi. Krystal. Bomberman. Lyn. Starfy. Even Sukapon as a retro rep.

Those are a lot of requested characters to make it in Smash that have shown up as ATs.

Everyone's bandwagonning on Dark Samus as an Echo Fighter now. And of course the Ashley fans are still hugely enthused.

But with so many popular choices gone, it does feel as though maybe they were all put in the demo deliberately. Get the disconfirmations out of the way ASAP.

 

[Androobie]

I don’t enjoy the games as much as you all do, but the idea of a character that manipulates the very Earth to his will to fight his opponents sounds so badass. If you don’t mind, could I be added to the list of supporters?

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Dunno how optimistic I feel about Isaac not showing up as an assist during E3. Considering he was left out to dry in Smash 4 anyway and hasn't had a new game in almost eight years makes me think Sakurai won't consider him unless this time he's gone full fanservice and wants only the best for the fans - which could very well be possible, but I would've thought Takamaru and Waluigi would've been in that roster.

So, while the golden boy does still have a shot, I don't think it's very big.

For a mood-lightener, let me ask you more hardcore Isaac fans a question. How would you feel if he made it in, but was in his adult state (magnificent beard and all)? Obviously, it's his most recent look, but there's literally no chance for a classic outfit at that point.

 

[Organization XIII]

Dunno how optimistic I feel about Isaac not showing up as an assist during E3. Considering he was left out to dry in Smash 4 anyway and hasn't had a new game in almost eight years makes me think Sakurai won't consider him unless this time he's gone full fanservice and wants only the best for the fans - which could very well be possible, but I would've thought Takamaru and Waluigi would've been in that roster.

So, while the golden boy does still have a shot, I don't think it's very big.

For a mood-lightener, let me ask you more hardcore Isaac fans a question. How would you feel if he made it in, but was in his adult state (magnificent beard and all)? Obviously, it's his most recent look, but there's literally no chance for a classic outfit at that point.

Well as much as I love Takamaru he wasn't highly wanted as much as highly expected. As for Waluigi I don't think Sakurai takes him seriously so I still think the rest will be popularity picks. And I'd have no issue with that magnificent beard being the face of Golden Sun

 

[True Blue Warrior]

For a mood-lightener, let me ask you more hardcore Isaac fans a question. How would you feel if he made it in, but was in his adult state (magnificent beard and all)? Obviously, it's his most recent look, but there's literally no chance for a classic outfit at that point.

I'd be pretty okay with that, as Adult Isaac looks cool.

 

[LuminoZero]

Chuck Norris of Vale? I'd be OK with that.

I mean, Isaac is me bargaining anyway. If I had one GS pick, I'd absolutely choose Sveta, but I know that's impossible. I'll take what I can get.

 

[ThunderOverload]

Why are so many people underestimating Isaac chances?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I feel like with the focus Sakurai is putting on fan service, it's really really unlikely that we'd get adult Isaac. Especially since Ganondorf got his old Ocarina of Time look back (the same one he had back in Melee) and Zelda didn't get her most recent Breath of the Wild look.

If Isaac gets in, Sakurai will absolutely choose his most iconic appearance. I don't see why Isaac would get treated any differently to the characters I just mentioned.

Why are so many people underestimating Isaac chances?

I think a lot of people zero in on the whole "dead franchise" thing, but I don't think that's going to mean as much as they think it does this time around.

 

[ThunderOverload]

I feel like with the focus Sakurai is putting on fan service, it's really really unlikely that we'd get adult Isaac. Especially since Ganondorf got his old Ocarina of Time look back (the same one he had back in Melee) and Zelda didn't get her most recent Breath of the Wild look.

If Isaac gets in, Sakurai will absolutely choose his most iconic appearance. I don't see why Isaac would get treated any differently to the characters I just mentioned.



I think a lot of people zero in on the whole "dead franchise" thing, but I don't think that's going to mean as much as they think it does this time around.

They also love using the "generic swordsman" thing

 

[EclipseSmash]

There has not been a single character I've wanted to see more in Smash than Isaac for the better of the last decade. I'm superglad he hasn't been shown as an assist trophy yet.

That said, please give us GS/TLA Isaac and not DD Isaac lol

 

[Bassoonist]

I wouldn't get too hopeful with the absence of Isaac's Assist Trophy just yet. Sure, there is the fact that he has not been shown and thus isn't deconfirmed (we have used that term for over a decade now, but is that even a word? lol).

One thing to consider: Does "Everyone is here" also apply to Assist Trophies? In which case, Isaac's absence would be noticeable, because that would mean he would have to return as an AT if he hasn't been chosen to be promoted. However, we also have to remember that in Brawl he was an unlockable Assist Trophy. That could mean that he is for this game as well, and could explain why he hasn't shown up.

There's just too much uncertainty. I'm glad he hasn't been deconfirmed, but I've been supporting this character for so long, I will no longer so easily be able to derive hope with so much uncertainty.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

One thing to consider: Does "Everyone is here" also apply to Assist Trophies? In which case, Isaac's absence would be noticeable, because that would mean he would have to return as an AT if he hasn't been chosen to be promoted. However, we also have to remember that in Brawl he was an unlockable Assist Trophy. That could mean that he is for this game as well, and could explain why he hasn't shown up.

Young Link and Pichu were unlockable characters in Melee and they were still revealed in the "Everyone is Here" trailer.

 

[Organization XIII]

Young Link and Pichu were unlockable characters in Melee and they were still revealed in the "Everyone is Here" trailer.

Well by nature of an "everyone is here" trailer they'd kinda need to be shown off

 

[Skyblade12]

I wouldn't get too hopeful with the absence of Isaac's Assist Trophy just yet. Sure, there is the fact that he has not been shown and thus isn't deconfirmed (we have used that term for over a decade now, but is that even a word? lol).

One thing to consider: Does "Everyone is here" also apply to Assist Trophies? In which case, Isaac's absence would be noticeable, because that would mean he would have to return as an AT if he hasn't been chosen to be promoted. However, we also have to remember that in Brawl he was an unlockable Assist Trophy. That could mean that he is for this game as well, and could explain why he hasn't shown up.

There's just too much uncertainty. I'm glad he hasn't been deconfirmed, but I've been supporting this character for so long, I will no longer so easily be able to derive hope with so much uncertainty.

"deconfirm" is not a word.
"disconfirm" is.
dis·con·firm
ˌdiskənˈfərm/
verb
past tense: disconfirmed; past participle: disconfirmed

1. show that (a belief or hypothesis) is not or may not be true.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Well by nature of an "everyone is here" trailer they'd kinda need to be shown off

Yup, which is why if the same kind of thing applies to the AT, there will be no unrevealed ones pre-release.

 

[Skyblade12]

Yup, which is why if the same kind of thing applies to the AT, there will be no unrevealed ones pre-release.

I hope they reveal the rest of the old ones soon. The sooner the better. All the old ones, except for a missing spot where a Venus Adept once was...

This wait is nerve wracking.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I kinda hope that the news of Snake and Ridley being explicitly brought back due to fan demand can give Isaac a boost in chances. God I hope he is playable this time.

 

[Bassoonist]

"deconfirm" is not a word.
"disconfirm" is.
dis·con·firm
ˌdiskənˈfərm/
verb
past tense: disconfirmed; past participle: disconfirmed

1. show that (a belief or hypothesis) is not or may not be true.

Yeah, I figured as much. "Deconfirmed" was just something we all threw around back in the pre-Brawl days. I thought 'disconfirmed' was a word, but when I typed it, my browser underlined it like it wasn't a word, so I just put 'deconfirmed' like the good ol' days!

Young Link and Pichu were unlockable characters in Melee and they were still revealed in the "Everyone is Here" trailer.

The whole point of the reveal was to reveal that every character from past games is present, though, so it makes sense they'd show previously unlockable characters.

No such thing was done for Assist Trophies (to our knowledge) and the demo, of course, didn't feature all of the ATs.

 

[EclipseSmash]

Would anyone care for an Isaac Discord? Like, just for ****s and giggles really until we get confirmation if he's in the game or not, and then we'll see from there.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't come up with anything to talk about.

Comic of the Day!

If Ivan was in Smash, he would make Jigglypuff's weight look like a Brick.

 

[N3ON]

To the point of Isaac not having been seen yet... none of the cut Brawl ATs have been seen yet. We've no idea if they'll even be back. The only one I'd give strong odds to tbh is Grey Fox, and that's for completely different reasoning than would apply to the rest.

 

[Billybae10K]

Hey, I'm here to support Isaac. I'm normally not vocal on forums or anything, but I've been wanting and hoping for Isaac since the Brawl days and while I know that getting my hopes up will probably end in them being dashed, I wanted to just voice my support here because you all know what it's like to not have him be added or have Golden Sun be represented in the way it deserves.

I know it's unlikely, but damnit if there's any hope that the golden sun will rise again, then I'll take it.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

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[MysticKnives]

Good luck Isaac fans. Hopefully you get your character in.