Nintendo's First Samurai: Takamaru for SSB4 (Final Request: Ask the US HW devs to add Takamaru)

[Marakatu]

This is Sakurai we are talking about. He and his team does a great amount of research on most (if not all) Nintendo IP's existence. That explains why almost every trophy from Melee to Brawl have valid information that pertains to the series it represents.

Except Ayumi Tachibana.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Also, wouldn't Link be a more likely "rival" given that Nazo no Murasame-Jo is like a more action oriented Zelda or something?

Yeah Link would work for that reason and the good parallels between their respective series. Greninja would be second choice since he represents Taka's worst nightmare (ninjas).

 

[FinalStarmen]

What do Takamaru supporters think of the argument, "If Little Mac is classified as the 'old-school retro' character, then there is no need for Takamaru at all"?

It seems to have been thrown out there for quite a while now.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

What do Takamaru supporters think of the argument, "If Little Mac is classified as the 'old-school retro' character, then there is no need for Takamaru at all"?

It is a slightly irrelevant argument due to two things: A) It's pretty debatable whether Mac falls in that category or not despite having a new sequel on the Wii and B) Sakurai said he wanted more older characters (meaning Mac can't really be the only one if he counts).

 

[tirkaro]

What do Takamaru supporters think of the argument, "If Little Mac is classified as the 'old-school retro' character, then there is no need for Takamaru at all"?

It seems to have been thrown out there for quite a while now.

I highly doubt it.
Every aspect of Little Mac, from the lack of the bloop-beep sound effects he had in Brawl, to his basic appearance and abilities, is derived from the Wii game. He's about as "retro" as Mario at this point tbh,

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So there are still a few dates Takamaru could be revealed give me your thoughts guys.
Next month Direct (if there is one)
E3
Direct post E3 (presuming 3DS version is late summer)
Hidden Newcomer
So which one guys let me hear your thoughts.

 

[Pacack]

So there are still a few dates Takamaru could be revealed give me your thoughts guys.
Next month Direct (if there is one)
E3
Direct post E3 (presuming 3DS version is late summer)
So which one guys let me hear your thoughts.

How about option number four? Hidden newcomer!

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

How about option number four? Hidden newcomer!

Fixed

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

So there are still a few dates Takamaru could be revealed give me your thoughts guys.
Next month Direct (if there is one)
E3
Direct post E3 (presuming 3DS version is late summer)
Hidden Newcomer
So which one guys let me hear your thoughts.

Hidden Newcomer is the best option. He could only be revealed in E3 IF Platinum Games's new project is Nazo no Murasame-Jo. In the end, we are not 100% sure since Kamiya may or may not be trolling about no Star Fox reboot. Him and Sakurai are on the same level of unpredictability.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I think hidden newcomer suits Takamaru best at this situation, Mac should be classic starting character in the roster, so hiding Takamaru and other Japanese retros as unlockables make sense.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

When I looked at the thread title I misread it as "(With every Ninja, there is Sakurai)"

Anyways, I think Takamaru, if he is in the game, would be a hidden newcomer.

 

[egaddmario]

Anyone else find it odd Sakurai said he wanted more retro characters and everyone who's been added (and rumored) so far has been recent?

 

[FirstBlade]

Anyone else find it odd Sakurai said he wanted more retro characters and everyone who's been added (and rumored) so far has been recent?

It could be possible that Little Mac and Mega Man are considered retros in Sakurai's eyes even though most of us seem to think otherwise. I mean there are quite a bit of arcade references in Little Mac's moveset and Mega Man is like 95% based off of the classic version. It's a stretch though. What leads to me believe they aren't is that Sakurai said the retro is a character that can be revived easily a la Pit. Mac was revived in 2009 and Mega Man is owned by Capcom so I don't think they are the ones he is talking about. In terms of easy revivability I'd say Takamaru and his series are up there with Mach Rider, but then again that is just my personal thought on the matter. Sakurai could think something like Clu Clu Land or Shin Onigashima is a gold mine of potential, it's all based on preference.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

It could be possible that Little Mac and Mega Man are considered retros in Sakurai's eyes even though most of us seem to think otherwise. I mean there are quite a bit of arcade references in Little Mac's moveset and Mega Man is like 95% based off of the classic version. It's a stretch though. What leads to me believe they aren't is that Sakurai said the retro is a character that can be revived easily a la Pit. Mac was revived in 2009 and Mega Man is owned by Capcom so I don't think they are the ones he is talking about. In terms of easy revivability I'd say Takamaru and his series are up there with Mach Rider, but then again that is just my personal thought on the matter. Sakurai could think something like Clu Clu Land or Shin Onigashima is a gold mine of potential, it's all based on preference.

Nice theory , First Blade. Another thing to think about is how the Samurai Blade was Sakurai's favorite Uprising item, yet only the Ore Club appears as a KI battering weapon so far. Quite suspicious.

 

[Fatmanonice]

*Warning: baseless conjecture below*

Anyone else notice how every franchise in Nintendo Land now has major representation in SSB4 except Nazo-no Murasame-jo? The Direct showed Goroh for F-Zero and a new Balloon Fight stage. It could potentially mean good things for the future.

 

[loganhogan]

*Warning: baseless conjecture below*

Anyone else notice how every franchise in Nintendo Land now has major representation in SSB4 except Nazo-no Murasame-jo? The Direct showed Goroh for F-Zero and a new Balloon Fight stage. It could potentially mean good things for the future.

I noticed it too.

 

[Shaking//very]

so, since ninja frog's shuriken's can only be used by charging them, takamaru should obviously rapid fire them

pretty much like kirby's ninja ability right here, you know sakurai has a history with recycling things from kirby in smash
or like fox his blaster you could say

he could also throw throwing knife's in a rapid fire

god dammit, if event mode returns, there needs to be a event in which takamaru needs to defeat a total of 50 greninja's that are easy to KO or something

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

*Warning: baseless conjecture below*

Anyone else notice how every franchise in Nintendo Land now has major representation in SSB4 except Nazo-no Murasame-jo? The Direct showed Goroh for F-Zero and a new Balloon Fight stage. It could potentially mean good things for the future.

Holy ****! I've just realized the same thing after rewatching it.

@ Shaking//very , The rapid shiruken idea makes much sense since that's what you have to do in order to survive any Nazo no Murasame-Jo level. That 50 Greninja event sounds pretty badass too.

 

[MasterMushroom]

god dammit, if event mode returns, there needs to be a event in which takamaru needs to defeat a total of 50 greninja's that are easy to KO or something

I'm pretty sure we would see that in classic mode or adventure, that's where we always saw those types of match ups that are ridiculously easy to finish.

If it's an event mode, it'd be Samurai vs Ninjas theme (surprise). If they actually manage to throw in for whatever reason; seeing Takamaru and Sceptile go up against Sheik and Greninja would be pretty interesting (or as always have the partner be completely useless, lol)

Or have Takamaru solo against and on the highest difficulty. Either way, Taka is going to have a lot on his hands

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I'm pretty sure we would see that in classic mode or adventure, that's where we always saw those types of match ups that are ridiculously easy to finish.

If it's an event mode, it'd be Samurai vs Ninjas theme (surprise). If they actually manage to throw in for whatever reason; seeing Takamaru and Sceptile go up against Sheik and Greninja would be pretty interesting (or as always have the partner be completely useless, lol)

Or have Takamaru solo against and on the highest difficulty. Either way, Taka is going to have a lot on his hands

Takamaru can take on anything.
Because he's a Samurai.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Takamaru can take on anything.
Because he's a Samurai.

But the real question is, will he be able to take on Kenshin Himura.

 

[bksbestbwoy]

But the real question is, will he be able to take on Kenshin Himura.

Dude, he's Kenshin Himura with fireballs, lightning blasts and invisibility at will. That's the **** the finest kind of shonen plot hax are made of.

 

[swordbreaker]

Just gonna leave this here for the Takamaru fans - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555462

Keep in mind that the game has yet to release on the Wii U virtual console anywhere and is one of the few Famicom classic games left to release in Japan. I think you guys have nothing to worry about.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Just gonna leave this here for the Takamaru fans - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555462

Keep in mind that the game has yet to release on the Wii U virtual console anywhere and is one of the few Famicom classic games left to release in Japan. I think you guys have nothing to worry about.

Happy Anniversary Murasame Rating Rumor!

But yeah, Murasame not having a VC release on the Wii U two years after launch seem very suspicious.

 

[egaddmario]

Maybe Greninja didn't steal his spotlight after all...THERE'S STILL HOPE

 

[Chaosmaster8753]

Following up my last post, how is it Takamaru's been ignored by Nintendo so much in the past? Have these past couple of years been the most he's been acknowledged? (I'm counting Brawl and Captain Rainbow with that last part)

 

[egaddmario]

I would definitely say so. I guess the game came out again when they did the Famicom games on Gameboy advance, but this is more recent.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Following up my last post, how is it Takamaru's been ignored by Nintendo so much in the past? Have these past couple of years been the most he's been acknowledged? (I'm counting Brawl and Captain Rainbow with that last part)

Don't forget about Samurai Warriors 3 that came out in 2010.
And Nintendo Land of course.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I slightly expected him for Samurai Warriors 3 since he's the only Nintendo character fit for such a game, but I didn't expect his series being involved in Nintendo Land. I guess the company had realized that it did have a small cult following. Hell, even most of his fanart on Pixiv is mostly based on his Captain Rainbow counterpart (despite the later flopping in Japan).

 

[IntelliHeath1]

Long time Takamaru supporter ever since Pre-Brawl hype.

I am still holding my breath for an East v. West-esque trailer where Takamaru and Little Mac are battling. In that event, I don't necessarily believe that they would have to utilize any traditional Japanese score.

It would be cool if you can unlock Takamaru by beating adventure mode with Little Mac or Greninja.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Why do so many people think Takamaru is deconfirmed after the direct?
I don't think that even effected his chances but it seems like most people think that Greninja deconfirmed him.
We have seen in the past that a characters moves doesn't effect another characters likeliness.
So why do people think this about Takamaru?

 

[JamesDNaux]

Because some people actively try to find reasons to deconfirm a character. But Takamaru is a Samurai and Greninja is based on a ninja, obviously.

Sheik is also a ninja, and she was revealed just before Greninja, didn't stop him. This doesn't affect Takamaru at all. I'll have fun taking down these ninja with him.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Why do so many people think Takamaru is deconfirmed after the direct?
I don't think that even effected his chances but it seems like most people think that Greninja deconfirmed him.
We have seen in the past that a characters moves doesn't effect another characters likeliness.
So why do people think this about Takamaru?

Because they've touched too many Fuzzies and got dizzy.

 

[Fandangox]

*Warning: baseless conjecture below*

Anyone else notice how every franchise in Nintendo Land now has major representation in SSB4 except Nazo-no Murasame-jo? The Direct showed Goroh for F-Zero and a new Balloon Fight stage. It could potentially mean good things for the future.

Well aside from that Game and Watch Gallery content still hasn't been shown in Smash, but Mr. Game & Watch is surely still in the game.

 

[bksbestbwoy]

I am still holding my breath for an East v. West-esque trailer where Takamaru and Little Mac are battling. In that event, I don't necessarily believe that they would have to utilize any traditional Japanese score.

The ultimate "take my breath away moment of hype" would be this exact setup but Takamaru and Mike Jones fighting one another before turning around and fighting the rest of the cast back to back.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Why do so many people think Takamaru is deconfirmed after the direct?
I don't think that even effected his chances but it seems like most people think that Greninja deconfirmed him.
We have seen in the past that a characters moves doesn't effect another characters likeliness.
So why do people think this about Takamaru?

He's not in the most likely leak (even though that leak isn't a sure thing and even if it was there is no guarantee that those are all the newcomers) and we saw a new shuriken using character. Flimsy reasons, but pretty sure that's it.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I think our katana wielding buddy should hunt down Sal Romano and commit Night Slash Tsujigiri on him.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

I think our katana wielding buddy should hunt down Sal Romano and commit Night Slash Tsujigiri on him.

But Takamaru's blade is already tested...


Still, I don't understand the Sal Romano belief, he has Miis on it when the franchise icons point to them not being in the game... but then again people seem to ignore that just because they're Miis...

 

[Dinoman96]

Still, I don't understand the Sal Romano belief, he has Miis on it when the franchise icons point to them not being in the game... but then again people seem to ignore that just because they're Miis...

Miis aren't exactly tied to any specific series, though (Go on their Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mii, notice how at the bottom, there's no "Mii Series" box). It should be noted that Find Mii is named "Streetpast Quest" in other territories.

And people believe in the leaks because so far, he's gotten 5/11 of his predictions correct.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Miis aren't exactly tied to any specific series, though (Go on their Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mii, notice how at the bottom, there's no "Mii Series" box). It should be noted that Find Mii is named "Streetpast Quest" in other territories.

And people believe in the leaks because so far, he's gotten 5/11 of his predictions correct.

Now to wait for E3 to ruin his little predictions. Speaking of E3, I do want to see what Kamiya's project is so we can finally figure out whether it's a new IP, new Star Fox, or Murasame revival.