NFL Thread

[The Real Gamer]

Are the Pats gonna set a new record?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

at this rate yep they will. unless its becomes TEBOW TIME and he puts more up :D

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

RIP Broncos.

More upset about the 49ers still winning even after forcing 5 turnovers and still managing to lose the lead at one point.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

time tebow used to tebow time, then he took an arrow in the knee

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Oooooooooooof

Smooth Criminal

 

[ZIO]

I'm more annoyed at the commentators talking the patriots up as if they are doing something amazing.

They were playing Denver. What were they really expecting? last week was a fluke for Denver. Should have never happened.

This isn't an amazing performance. It's a standard patriots getting boosted by a terrible denver. It's like equipping oneself with Armour that adds +4593753947 attack because it is equipped.

Circumstance.

 

[Orboknown]

Well, I was hoping for the DeBroncadonk to pull another Tebow(n)er, but if I go 0/2 I won't care as long as the Pack take it tomorrow.

Now see EE, most of my family(me excluded) are giants fans...

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

last week was a fluke for Denver. Should have never happened.

Would you like to explain how James Harrison biting sooooo deep into an option play and Tebow getting 15 yards was a fluke? Or maybe Ike Taylor getting burned for almost all of Demaryius Thomas' 200 yards? Or even how Big Ben and that Oline got the crap beaten out of them for half of the game?

The injured Steelers struggled, the healthy Steelers struggled. What fluke caused that to happen?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm more annoyed at the commentators talking the patriots up as if they are doing something amazing.

They set records, so I think that's what they're trying to make something of. But yeah they're overexaggerating, definitely.

I won't comment on Broncos / Steelers as Berserker Swordsman has that covered.

 

[ZIO]

What fluke caused that to happen?

Divine intervention.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

 

[theeboredone]

Would you like to explain how James Harrison biting sooooo deep into an option play and Tebow getting 15 yards was a fluke? Or maybe Ike Taylor getting burned for almost all of Demaryius Thomas' 200 yards? Or even how Big Ben and that Oline got the crap beaten out of them for half of the game?

The injured Steelers struggled, the healthy Steelers struggled. What fluke caused that to happen?

Oh my. Where to begin lmao.

 

[ZIO]

Implying it's not Aaron GODgers


it's in his name

 

[Jem.]

Really impressed by the 49ers. I honestly think anyone left in the NFC can beat whoever reps the AFC in the Superbowl, which includes the 49ers. I picked the Saints to win just because I assumed Alex Smith didn't have a clutch gene after 7 years, but he was a big part in that win (that turned into a comeback win)

Although I am skeptical if they can beat the Giants or Packers when barely beating the Saints when collecting 5 turnovers, but I was one who thought the Saints couldnt beat the Colts in the Superbowl if they barely beat the Brett Favre Vikings who had 5-6 turnovers as well.

What a standout game for Alex Smith.

NFC West > Superbowl Champion Drew Brees

I have the Giants beating the Packers, so Giants - 49ers NFC Championship Game, whoever wants it more gets to be in the Superbowl and win it.

 

[tko112]

well, it was an interesting game, to say the least

but I think we can all agree that Denver surprised the crap out of everyone this season

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Divine intervention.

Oh my. Where to begin lmao.

Please, indulge me. I'm one of the few people who actually thought Tim Tebow would be able to do something in this league, and the amount of salt that's come from the entire world the last season and a half is really dumb at this point. Yes, he's had massive help in that process, but no one's ever doing anything alone in this game (except Larry Fitzgerald, but that's another story).

 

[theeboredone]

Tebow has the potential to be a good, if not pro bowl calibur quarterback, but what Pittsburgh did was laughable. They insulted Tebow in so many ways when they decided to simplify their D to the point Tebow had to make one read the whole game. That read was whether or not if the corner was beat on man coverage. There were no "schemes." No "zones", no "windows" for Tebow to throw in. It was either run the ball, or look up and see if Ike Taylor got beat or not. They did not give Tebow a different look as they continued to stack the box, and not getting any pressure on him even with that.

The Patriots respected Tebow not only as a runner, but as a passer. They forced Tebow to make more than one read, and they forced Tebow to try and recognize schemes before the snaps. The result? A very poor game.

Also, it's pretty evident how bad the injuries were playing a role in the Steelers loss. Getting zero pressure on Tebow, where as the Patriots were disrupting him consistently.

 

[M@v]

yeah we were beat the **** up.

also if tebow practices hardcore over the off-season, I see his QB style becoming something like this:

Big ben that can run the option, but not quite as good at breaking tackles. Still better than 90% of other qbs at breaking them though.

 

[Jem.]

Sometimes surprising the crap out of everyone once isn't good though

in terms of being a better team, being completely terrible is better, like the Lions. Constantly being mediocre is worse than sucking terribly for 3 years IMO. Cause atleast you get franchise guys. What do the Broncos do now? Low draft pick, a QB they might not even keep with Tebow, and the low pick stops them from (in theory) getting a big playmaker unless via free agency.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Injuries blah blah blah.

Tell me how a man with a cast on his hand still creates a ruckus on the line of scrimmage. Steelers can make as many johns as they want, they got beat and should deal with it. Just as no one needs to say "omg Brian Dawkins wasn't on the field, Gronk would have never gotten those TDs."

Last I recall, Broncos were the sacking/pressure machines of this matchup, not the Steelers. Patriots are fairly good at pressure themselves, they've shown that all year.

 

[theeboredone]

Injuries blah blah blah.

Tell me how a man with a cast on his hand still creates a ruckus on the line of scrimmage. Steelers can make as many johns as they want, they got beat and should deal with it. Just as no one needs to say "omg Brian Dawkins wasn't on the field, Gronk would have never gotten those TDs."

Last I recall, Broncos were the sacking/pressure machines of this matchup, not the Steelers. Patriots are fairly good at pressure themselves, they've shown that all year.

Are you talking about Dumervil in regards to the cast? Dude disappeared for like 3 straight games when they went on their losing streak. Big Ben has a habit of holding the ball for a long time + their o-line is poor to begin with. There's a reason why he's one of the most, if not the most sacked QB in the league. Stop being naive. It wasn't one or two injuries. It was a good 5-8 injuries from their starting line up on both sides. While true greatness strives from winning despite the losses (Packers), it's still a valid excuse. What if Tom Brady suddenly went down in the first play of the game and they lost? Can you just sit there and say it's just an excuse that they lost? It's a damn well excuse, and it's a valid one.

And no one is saying Denver won because of those injuries minus the fanboys. Mike Tomlin, first thing he said was injuries are not an excuse. However, objectively speaking, if both teams were at full strength, I'd take Pitt over Denver anyday, no matter how poor of a defensive scheme Pitt comes up with.

 

[Jem.]

Green Bay proved last year injuries shouldn't matter, you keep all 53 guys on your roster for a reason. What did they have, 15 guys on IR? That is nearly 1/3 the roster.

 

[:mad:]

I saw it was 42-10 at one point and left to go eat. I expected a quick and easy comeback from Denver when I got back, but it didn't happen and I was sad.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Are you talking about Dumervil in regards to the cast? Dude disappeared for like 3 straight games when they went on their losing streak. Big Ben has a habit of holding the ball for a long time + their o-line is poor to begin with. There's a reason why he's one of the most, if not the most sacked QB in the league. Stop being naive. It wasn't one or two injuries. It was a good 5-8 injuries from their starting line up on both sides. While true greatness strives from winning despite the losses (Packers), it's still a valid excuse. What if Tom Brady suddenly went down in the first play of the game and they lost? Can you just sit there and say it's just an excuse that they lost? It's a damn well excuse, and it's a valid one.

And no one is saying Denver won because of those injuries minus the fanboys. Mike Tomlin, first thing he said was injuries are not an excuse. However, objectively speaking, if both teams were at full strength, I'd take Pitt over Denver anyday, no matter how poor of a defensive scheme Pitt comes up with.

It was Miller with the cast on his hand.

It's not like the Broncos were full strength either. What if Brian Dawkins was on the field when it was 20-6? Would the Steelers have been able to then charge down the field like that and manage to take it to OT, or would he have snapped that D back into shape? What if McGahee never fumbled? What if Eric Decker never went out? What if the Eagles never dropped 5 4th Q leads this season?

There's valid excuse, and there's "okay, it's an excuse, but no one cares." And again, the healthy Steelers were struggling in their own individual rights. Not to mention the Steelers still had opportunities before the 2-TD deficit in the 2nd Q happened. There's no possible excuse for whatever position they played, because they were just getting beat regardless. Lost Mendenhall? Redman runs for 120+ yards. Ryan Clark out? Ryan Mundy played a pretty good game all things considered. Those were the two biggest on either side of the ball IMO.

 

[theeboredone]

It's not like the Broncos were full strength either. What if Brian Dawkins was on the field when it was 20-6? Would the Steelers have been able to then charge down the field like that and manage to take it to OT, or would he have snapped that D back into shape? What if McGahee never fumbled? What if Eric Decker never went out? What if the Eagles never dropped 5 4th Q leads this season?

Congrats, you are comparing one valid injury (Dawkins) to about 8 injuries. And you know what's crazy about your Erick Decker theory? The team was doing NOTHING before he got hurt. The moment he went out, they had a long ball play for 50 yards, and proceeded to get their O on track. It was almost as if having Decker going down was a blessing in disguise. With all the "3:16" references, that was the changing point. When Decker went down, the offense exploded.

There's valid excuse, and there's "okay, it's an excuse, but no one cares." And again, the healthy Steelers were struggling in their own individual rights.

Right, 12-4 is "struggling." Their injuries came towards the end of the season. Ryan Clark. Big Ben. Mendenhall. Pouncey.

Not to mention the Steelers still had opportunities before the 2-TD deficit in the 2nd Q happened. There's no possible excuse for whatever position they played, because they were just getting beat regardless.

So you are saying that the game would have played out the same way if both teams were healthy? Stop twisting my words, because I clearly stated, I would take a healthy Steelers team over a healthy Denver team. Neither side was healthy, so we don't know how the game would have played out if both were, but I'd still put my money on Pitt.

Lost Mendenhall? Redman runs for 120+ yards. Ryan Clark out? Ryan Mundy played a pretty good game all things considered. Those were the two biggest on either side of the ball IMO.

LOL! Now you're just grasping for straws. Yeah Redman had a good game, but if you watched the game with your EYES, Ryan Mundy is a garbage safety. It's his job to quarterback the backfield, just like how it's Dawkins' responsibility. You are honestly telling me, by the amount of times Pitt got burned on the deep ball AND sometimes on the run, bad defensive scheme and all, you are willing to say he played a "pretty good game?" I blame Mundy more than Ike Taylor.

And you are discrediting Ben's injury so hard. Do you know why people consider Ben a top QB? It's his ability to shake off tackles, run from the pocket NOT FOR YARDS, but to extend the play. You know...kinda like that uh...Tebow guy on the other side. Now if that's one of the things that makes you dangerous, and you can't do it (high ankle sprain), how limited is your game gonna be? Dude was taking a full minute to just do a play action motion.

And I find it comical how you are just grinding this "injury" thing of yours out. What were my two initial statements? Injuries and a bad defensive game plan that showed 0 respect to Tebow's ability to throw the ball, let alone make a simple NFL read. Funny you have yet to address that. Cause when you respect him as an NFL QB, you are way better off defending him compared to stacking 10 of your guys in the box.
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On another note, because the Denver Tebows won the division, their schedule is gonna be mad hard next year. If I'm correct, they will be playing...

New England, Baltimore, Houston, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Atlanta. GG.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Them not respecting Tebow is all their problem. What's there to address? I'm trying to say that Tebow didn't get help because of some "fluke" as Zio was saying. It's not a fluke that they drew up a bad defensive scheme, it's just their fault. Nothing to address there, that just supports my point.

When I said healthy Steelers, I meant the players in that game not dealing with injuries, not the healthy Steelers team during the regular season. My bad for ambiguity.

I think you took my "getting beat regardless" as "getting beat regardless of whether or not they were healthy" but I meant regardless of whether or not their current team played better than they did.

They got burned on a couple of deep plays because of Ike Taylor and Polamalu trying to stint a possible run. You can't blame that completely or even mostly on Mundy. Unfortunately, I would definitely blame him for the OT play, considering he came down trying to fool Tebow. But I don't think his play throughout regulation pulled the Steelers down.

I discredit Big Ben's mobility because it's not his fault that passes got dropped or the Oline got shedded on blocks, both things that are unrelated to his own problems, although it certainly caught up to him on the last drive.

 

[M@v]

lmao fan fail...they were holding their texan's flag upside down for the camera.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

It doesn't matter what the broncos do, the chiefs are winning the division going away unless tebow develops a good arm in the off season

 

[Starphoenix]

It is funny because Time Tebow really is a lot like John Elway. When Elway was good he was really good, but when he was bad he was really bad. For the first several years of Elway's career he earned the name "No Way Elway". Not saying Tebow is like John Elway, only that when he tends to have extreme games, if my definition is understood?

 

[theeboredone]

Man TJ Yates. I like Baltimore and want the Harbaugh Bowl...but it sucks to see the underdog lose like that.

 

[Reizilla]

Oh well. I can still go 3-1. Let's go Giants.

 

[Starphoenix]

Man TJ Yates. I like Baltimore and want the Harbaugh Bowl...but it sucks to see the underdog lose like that.

I know, I was rooting for Denver and Houston. Now all I have left to root for is New York. If they lose I could care less what happens after that. :\

 

[Isatis]

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A HarBowl is pretty much all I want, honestly. Or the Ravens flat out getting to the Superbowl, that's cool too.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Actually, forget Packers / Patriots. Gotta get on the Ravens / 49ers bandwagon.

Vote: Harbaugh Superbowl

 

[theeboredone]

Hakeem Nicks just shrugged that safety off like he was a kid lmao. Nobody tackles anymore. It's all about the big hits.

 

[Masmasher@]

that was a fumble
cmon officials
lol

 

[frotaz37]

Yeah, calls like that make me suspect officials have been bought off.

 

[theeboredone]

They want Smith vs Rodgers. SO pissed at that call.

 

[Reizilla]

Yeah, that's an absolutely terrible call.

 

[theeboredone]

Tynes not having a good day. Kick off going out of bounds and now a FG blocked.