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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

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It sort of happened once after DS.

The original version of Mario Kart 8 was actually a hybrid; you could get eliminated, at which point you would turn into a ghost who can still cause chaos with items but can no longer gain points, but the highest scoring player would be the victor, even if they themselves were eliminated.

I imagine it'll be the same for World but it'd be really cool if Last Racer Standing was an option.
Fair enough but like nobody played OG 8's Battle Mode because of the racetracks as battle courses thing lmao

I do hope it's more like DS/Double Dash though, rather than points + elim, especially when we have straight up elimination races as well lol
 

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Should Mario Kart World have crossover DLC like Mario Kart 8 or not? Something like Kirby and Captain Falcon?
I do think Mario Kart World provides a lot of exciting potential for map expansion... crossover with the likes of Zelda, Animal Crossing, Splatoon etc naturally provide opportunities to explore a Hyrulian Temple, an Animal Crossing village and/or Inkopolis Plaza in free roam among a number of other possibilities. Pikmin or Metroid feel like they'd offer really immersive courses to explore in this way too. I just want them to take full advantage of the shiny new features because that's how these crossovers will feel distinct from the last ones we got, and worth paying for again.

First things first though I expect / want a DK Isle expansion. There are more than enough course possibilities both old and new to sustain it, you could add a slew of fan favorite characters and even correspond with the release of Donkey Kong Bananza. I mean, I don't want DLC in literally the second month this game is out, but helping to further cement Bananza's presence across other material will be value for a few years at least. Do I want to pay for Diddy Kong? No, not really, but I could reason with it if it simply made sense to keep the Kong family withheld for their big spotlight moment here.

All of this said, if I'm gonna be paying $80 for this game (or well, more realistically $50 on top of another $450 purchase) I don't want to have to think about DLC for a good while. I'm a bit underwhelmed by the lack of new information in today's presentation but I hope that's just a short term reaction where the full game's content will excite me plenty once I finally get my hands on it.
 
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Should Mario Kart World have crossover DLC like Mario Kart 8 or not? Something like Kirby and Captain Falcon?
I would like it. At least, if we're not going to get notable Mario or DK/WarioWare/RPG characters as DLC, crossover characters would certainly be better than a random Mob or another Baby character as DLC.
 

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Should Mario Kart World have crossover DLC like Mario Kart 8 or not? Something like Kirby and Captain Falcon?
It will probably happen but I think Nintendo should prioritise bring the characters that aren’t going to return. Not sure it’s even confirmed if it’s the final roster like how Miis aren’t confirmed yet despite being in every game since Wii.

I think it will probably be a Pikmin rep if there is anything new.
 
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Should Mario Kart World have crossover DLC like Mario Kart 8 or not? Something like Kirby and Captain Falcon?
Yes, but if they have courses, then you should have to drive through Warp Pipes to get to them.

Locations like Big Blue or Hyrule Circuit should be in a separate dimensions, not on the MKW continent.

I'd rather we get more Mario characters that feel missing from the roster
Lol, like who?
 
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Should Mario Kart World have crossover DLC like Mario Kart 8 or not? Something like Kirby and Captain Falcon?
I think Kirby as DLC might step on Air Riders toes a bit. It'd be cool to have a track based on BotW or Prime 4, but I agree with the idea that attention should first be put to tidying up any Mario content that's missing before further exploring Crossovers.

Also, a completely out of left field thought, but a Minecraft map where you drive through the overworld would a lot of fun. We haven't and won't get any third party courses, but it would be cool to see a couple guests join the roster, preferably in a smaller vein similar to the arcade GP titles.
 
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Lol, like who?
I'm pretty bummed that some of the big boss guys like Petey Piranha and King Bob-Omb didn't make it. I feel like they should rightfully be chilling there with King Boo but I suppose they just didn't really fit with the priorities this time around. Fair enough but I'd pay top dollar to play as KBB since I pretty much exclusively downloaded Tour to use him and was hoping I could main him in a real Mario Kart game this time.

Poochy was another fantastic addition that I'm upset will remain locked behind a gacha. At least a full on Yoshi's Island themed cup / area seems practical enough. Between him and King Bob-Omb they pretty much gave me my two most wanted racers with a big asterisk.

As for new guys, I've been thinking Gooper Blooper would be fun. Why not, at this rate we've got way weirder lol.
 
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I'm pretty bummed that some of the big boss guys like Petey Piranha and King Bob-Omb didn't make it. I feel like they should rightfully be chilling there with King Boo but I suppose they just didn't really fit with the priorities this time around. Fair enough but I'd pay top dollar to play as KBB since I pretty much exclusively downloaded Tour to use him and was hoping I could main him in a real Mario Kart game this time.

Poochy was another fantastic addition that I'm upset will remain locked behind a gacha. At least a full on Yoshi's Island themed cup / area seems practical enough. Between him and King Bob-Omb they pretty much gave me my two most wanted racers with a big asterisk.

As for new guys, I've been thinking Gooper Blooper would be fun. Why not, at this rate we've got way weirder lol.
I am kinda sad about no King Bob-Omb tbh (he was my favorite addition to Tour even if I never played it), but it's been offset a bit by King Boo being back from day 1 and getting that aristocrat costume, plus some of the goofier mook racers are kind of up my alley, like Swoop, Fish Bone, and Pokey lol
 

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I am kinda sad about no King Bob-Omb tbh (he was my favorite addition to Tour even if I never played it), but it's been offset a bit by King Boo being back from day 1 and getting that aristocrat costume, plus some of the goofier mook racers are kind of up my alley, like Swoop, Fish Bone, and Pokey lol
On the bright side, I love Aristocrat King Boo also and I do quite like Conkdor, Pokey and some others. As far as costumes go I'm digging almost all of Waluigi's and the ice cream Toadette is adorable. Nice to have Wiggler back also... so I'm not at a shortage of characters I want to try out, but those other two I mentioned would have been the "drop everything and play them" characters that I'm sorta missing here.

Also, feel like they really dropped the ball not letting me race as Thwomp. I was looking forward to that.
 

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On the bright side, I love Aristocrat King Boo also and I do quite like Conkdor, Pokey and some others. As far as costumes go I'm digging almost all of Waluigi's and the ice cream Toadette is adorable. Nice to have Wiggler back also... so I'm not at a shortage of characters I want to try out, but those other two I mentioned would have been the "drop everything and play them" characters that I'm sorta missing here.

Also, feel like they really dropped the ball not letting me race as Thwomp. I was looking forward to that.
Even if the NPC recruitment theory ended up being wrong, I'm still really baffled that they let all these track hazards become playable and yet they still omitted Thwomp.

That was like the one character choice I was banking on after seeing the general pattern with World's other newcomers. Who knows, maybe they did try and decided he's just too wide for most of the vehicles.
 
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Even if the NPC recruitment theory ended up being wrong, I'm still really baffled that they let all these track hazards become playable and yet they still omitted Thwomp.

That was like the one character choice I was banking on after seeing the general pattern with World's other newcomers. Who knows, maybe they did try and decided he's just too wide for most of the vehicles.
Could also be unlockables we just don't know about yet, like I thought it was kinda weird that the Special Cup wasn't in footage when we first got a look at the game but then realized Special Cup is only unlocked from the start in like 64 and 8 Deluxe, it's just been like a decade since we've had to unlock it so it feels weird lol
 

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I'm pretty bummed that some of the big boss guys like Petey Piranha and King Bob-Omb didn't make it. I feel like they should rightfully be chilling there with King Boo but I suppose they just didn't really fit with the priorities this time around. Fair enough but I'd pay top dollar to play as KBB since I pretty much exclusively downloaded Tour to use him and was hoping I could main him in a real Mario Kart game this time.

Poochy was another fantastic addition that I'm upset will remain locked behind a gacha. At least a full on Yoshi's Island themed cup / area seems practical enough. Between him and King Bob-Omb they pretty much gave me my two most wanted racers with a big asterisk.

As for new guys, I've been thinking Gooper Blooper would be fun. Why not, at this rate we've got way weirder lol.
Gooper Blooper has been my biggest pipedream want for so long, the day he gets in is the day my existence on this planet is validated
 

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First things first though I expect / want a DK Isle expansion. There are more than enough course possibilities both old and new to sustain it, you could add a slew of fan favorite characters and even correspond with the release of Donkey Kong Bananza. I mean, I don't want DLC in literally the second month this game is out, but helping to further cement Bananza's presence across other material will be value for a few years at least. Do I want to pay for Diddy Kong? No, not really, but I could reason with it if it simply made sense to keep the Kong family withheld for their big spotlight moment here.
Ooh that could be fun. Assuming each new map gives us 1 cup, that could easily be something like:
  • DK's Jungle Parkway
  • New Course (Mine shaft themed)
  • DK Mountain
  • New Course (A King K. Rool themed beach track)
 

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It'd probably never happen, but I'd love to see Tatanga and Captain Syrup return for Mario Kart World.
Honestly with how much this game seems to be a celebration of everything Mario (Shy Guy Bazaar takes place in Sarasaland even) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he and his spaceship (as a kart) were in the game as unlockables.

Ya wanna know something really cool? R.O.B. is back in the game as a kart! Er...bike!

No love for DK Jungle, a track actually made by Retro Studios
Actually my first thought went to that, but I wanted 2 retro tracks, and it thematically overlaps with both DK's Jungle Parkway and DK Mountain due to them all being jungle based (DK Jungle also technically goes into a mountain so it overlaps even more with DK Mountain). I could have paired it with DK Summit, but I didn't think it fit thematically in a Donkey Kong Country themed cup.
 
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This will always be my go-to for Mario Kart characters:


Besides that and the missing Kongs, the Koopalings & Petey Pirahna:
  • I don't know why any of the Mario Odyssey races haven't been seen since their debut, especially Cappy. Seriously, if we're focused on Mooks/NPC-like characters, a representative for each Mario Odyssey race would be perfect.
  • The missing characters from Mario Kart Tour would be great, especially King Bob-omb, Dixie Kong and Poochy.
  • Ninji is a glaring omission with how much attention they've been getting.
  • Boom-Boom and Pom-Pom are noticeably missing.
  • Any of the Sprixie Princesses would be cool to see, and would be much better light, easy-to-make, characters. Certainly better than more Baby characters. I will even take Peachette coming back over more Baby characters. At least they tried to make Peachette a bit more creative with her "Peach/Toadette hybrid" nature by making her voice and mannerisms more clear that she is Toadette transformed into Peach.
  • And Wart and Tatanga would be appreciated.
I'm confused as to why people are assuming we have.
Sure, it's definitely unlikely seeing as it's Mario Kart, but we have had instances of Nintendo hiding notable things until launch, the most notable being the Depths from Tears of the Kingdom. The main world and the sky were advertised alot during Tears of the Kingdom trailers and advertising, but the Depths were never shown until the game launched and people played the game.

For Mario Kart, it's an unlikely possibility no doubt, but still a possibility.
 
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I'm confused as to why people are assuming we have.
Likely because we've seen so many already, but to be honest, if you were to try and hide playable characters, why pick the ones that can easily be spoiled by someone getting the Kamek item? Everyone revealed so far is either standard Mario fare, or a generic enemy/course element character, none of which people would be super gung-ho about unlocking even if the fact that you can play as them is really fun.

So less common named characters like the Kongs, Petey Piranha, Tatanga, R.O.B. even could still be there as true hidden unlockables.
 

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Side note, but remember back during the Ultimate pre-release cycle where Castlevania content got leaked after Intern-kun accidentally uploaded Castlevania music to the Smash account the day before the Simon/Richter reveal?

Well, something similar happened today, with the Nintendo newsletter spoiling the (probably?) next game for the Nintendo Music app:



RISE A THOUSAND YEARS AGOOOOOOO
 

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I will even take Peachette coming back over more Baby characters. At least they tried to make Peachette a bit more creative with her "Peach/Toadette hybrid" nature by making her voice and mannerisms more clear that she is Toadette transformed into Peach.
Dread it. Run from it. Baby Wario comes for all.

I joke, but there's a good chance of him showing up in a Yoshi themed DLC pack (EDIT: assuming there is one) since he and Baby Donkey Kong are the only existing baby characters that have never been in Mario Kart.
 
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Side note, but remember back during the Ultimate pre-release cycle where Castlevania content got leaked after Intern-kun accidentally uploaded Castlevania music to the Smash account the day before the Simon/Richter reveal?

Well, something similar happened today, with the Nintendo newsletter spoiling the (probably?) next game for the Nintendo Music app:



RISE A THOUSAND YEARS AGOOOOOOO
You mean to tell me that on Monday I'll be able to jam out to Bright Sandstorm (Fiery) for extended periods of time?

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
 
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