hmm, how should i put this?A live-action Legend of Zelda movie is currently in development:
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hmm, how should i put this?A live-action Legend of Zelda movie is currently in development:
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Son of a gun... Huh, while I was on the fence about it being live-action, maybe Blake Lively as Samus Aran in a Metroid movie COULD happen after all...A live-action Legend of Zelda movie is currently in development:
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I bet. I remember even Brawl's had a lot of backlash at the end (despite a few credible leaks at that point), and that was generally regarded as the strongest selection, at least until Ultimate. Melee would've had Dark Pits all over the place, lol.The full Melee roster leaked shortly before the game released. Tons of people thought it was a joke, but then the game released and people slowly saw their worst nightmare come true as they unlocked characters. I saw it happen. It wasn't pretty.
To be honest, the only thing I was looking for at that time was Banjo & Kazooie. Though, it was less that I had this desire to see him Smash and more of a "Banjo is one of Nintendo's biggest stars. Why is he not in these games?"We're so used to the Melee characters, but I can only imagine when the game was coming out/had recently dropped. What a weird cluster**** of new additions.
Peach and Bowser make sense. But then thinking your new Zelda character was just Sheik. The one-off transformation who didn't really do much, over Zelda or Ganon/dorf. Then you do get Zelda, and, it's not like her own arsenal was that deep then, but she just uses non-faithful versions of things Link does. Which is nothing to say of Ganondorf, who everyone was psyched on, and then he's just a Captain Falcon clone.
And then Ice Climbers, who are ok? But... very very random. Like, there's no Wario, there's no Diddy, there's no Dedede... but there's Ice Climbers. Even Pit was more popular. Little Mac too, probably, in the west.
Then there are these two randos named Marth and Roy and I have no ****ing clue where they're from. I mean they're cool and all but it's harder to by hyped when you've no idea who they are. But they're cool. Still trying to figure out if Marth is a girl, can someone who speaks Japanese clarify?
But it's cool they added Mewtwo, people like him. Wait... this dude is no fun at all to play. Dang, they ruined Mewtwo. Yeah, cut this guy (seriously, there was a notable contingent who wanted Mewtwo cut... until he was cut). Oh, and there's Pichu. Yay.... wait, he hurts himself, and he dies at like 50%? Sakurai!
Also what the **** is a Mr. Game and Watch? What does that mean?!? WHO IS THIS??
And why on earth would they add Dr. Mario when they could've added Wario?! He's just... another Mario... (Obviously good they didn't, but I don't doubt this was a take back then). And speaking of just another: Young Link? We already have Link? Why do we need Young Link? Why are there so many clones?! Falco is cool though.
This game is really fun and all but a lot of these new characters choices are kinda [insert outdated c. 2001 insult here]. Also why are there so many Zelda characters when Metroid and Kirby and DK only have one? Don't worry, next time they'll add Ridley. He was already in the opening trailer.
Not saying everyone would've been like this, but I can only imagine there was a bit of whiplash to what is, to be fair, very much not the strongest lineup of newcomers Smash has had.
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I'm sure no one will make more of this than need be.The film will be co-financed by Nintendo and Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc.... the theatrical distribution of the film will be done worldwide by Sony Pictures Entertainment
Smash speculation never paid attention to how Sony Music distributes the Pokemon anime's soundtracks, then again seeing a Sony logo on a Zelda movie released worldwide would be more prominent.I'm sure no one will make more of this than need be.
Is it supposed to show up grey for me..?Smash speculation never paid attention to how Sony Music distributes the Pokemon anime's soundtracks, then again seeing a Sony logo on a Zelda movie released worldwide would be more prominent.
What should also be prominent is that Avi Arad was also the producer of
It's supposed to be the totally legitimate scene of Morbius saying "IT'S MORBIN' TIME", his 100% authentic catchphrase from the biggest movie of 2022, Morbius.Is it supposed to show up grey for me..?
It's true, I saw it on the twitch stre- I mean in the cinema, totally legalIt's supposed to be the totally legitimate scene of Morbius saying "IT'S MORBIN' TIME", his 100% authentic catchphrase from the biggest movie of 2022, Morbius.
im listeningTom Holland as Link
But parts did argue against Sora on the basis of Nintendo partnering with UniversalSmash speculation never paid attention to how Sony Music distributes the Pokemon anime's soundtracks, then again seeing a Sony logo on a Zelda movie released worldwide would be more prominent.
That's gonna be nothing on Link shouting "IT'S ZELDIN' TIME", before two AC/DC songs start playing at the same time.It's supposed to be the totally legitimate scene of Morbius saying "IT'S MORBIN' TIME", his 100% authentic catchphrase from the biggest movie of 2022, Morbius.
I did once have an idea for Dwayne Johnson as Ganondorf, though given some of the things I heard about him after Black Adam, I'm not sure that'd be a good fit anymore...So do we just start expecting Tom Holland as Link, Anya Taylor-Joy as Zelda, and, like, Chris Pratt (he's so cool) as Ganondorf now or what
well that version of link I said to be 16 so you weren’t wrongBack when Melee released I was so you that every new character was a cool and brilliant addition. Even the clones.
Heck, me and my friends thought in the next one, they could even add an "Adult Link" because we thought Link was a teen.
Okay, so...if you guys got to choose seven unique characters and seven Echo Fighters for Melee, who would you guys pick? For me:Your hands are kinda tied if you only had the capacity for eight unique characters and six clones, but some of those clones are... choices. That said, apart from using Ganondorf on a moveset from a different series, which I really would've avoided, and inversely, not making Wario a clone, which was the right call, the other choices are imo a mixed bag:
- I might've chosen Daisy over Doc, because... it really is just another Mario. And you can still include the music. But I get Doc has his own sub-series
- Speaking of included music, I might've chosen a character like Mach Rider to be the Falcon clone. Maybe not the best use for him, and def not as popular as dorf, but... I wouldn't have sacrificed Ganondorf to a clone. I know Mach Rider isn't from F-Zero either, but it's not like he's gotten in otherwise and the moveset fit seems decent enough for Melee. It was made up for a generic fighter, anyway. (And it wouldn't have been implemented like this, but just the image of the neutral B creating a motorcycle instead of a bird is pretty funny. xD)
- Another option could've been a character like Funky over DK. I suspect Diddy may have been hamstrung by litigation at the time, but based on the DK trophies, the other DK characters may have been available to use.
- In theory you could've gone for a character like Ninten as a Ness clone, but the two are already so similar it'd be a little underwhelming. If anyone, I'd have gone for Paula, considering those are mostly her attacks, and she's more distinct. Still not the best choice imo.
- I guess you could've gone for Birdo over Yoshi if you had time to change the neutral B (presumably to an egg spit) and make the grab an inhale rather than a tongue. She'd not be from the Yoshi series, but w/e.
- Also both Daisy and Birdo kinda rely on Mario Tennis being within the timeframe to affect the roster, given it re-introduced both characters and I doubt they'd be prominent enough otherwise.
- I think Falco was the right call for Star Fox though. And Roy was promotional so w/e. Pichu is kinda eh but makes sense, was popular enough and at least represents the 2nd gen.
Peach | Bowser | Ice Climbers | Sheik | Zelda | Marth | Mewtwo |
Ayumi Tachibana (Peach / Zelda Echo) | Pichu (Pikachu Echo) | Falco (Fox Echo) | Young Link (Link Echo) | Mach Rider (Captain Falcon Echo) | Celica (Marth Echo) | Bubbles (Kirby Echo) |
It was a joke but tbh the first two aren't bad casting, especially since I doubt professional elf boy Timothee Chalamet would sign on to a video game movie. Actually seems plausible Holland and ATJ end up being preferable to who ends up getting cast.im listening
He has the imposing physique but I'm not sure the character is really in his wheelhouse personality-wise. Plus, I may be misinformed, but doesn't he not play villain roles anymore? I know Black Adam is a villain in the comics, but didn't they change that in the movie? (haven't seen it)I did once have an idea for Dwayne Johnson as Ganondorf, though given some of the things I heard about him after Black Adam, I'm not sure that'd be a good fit anymore...
Black Adam's an anti-hero which he's been for a while now.He has the imposing physique but I'm not sure the character is really in his wheelhouse personality-wise. Plus, I may be misinformed, but doesn't he not play villain roles anymore? I know Black Adam is a villain in the comics, but didn't they change that in the movie? (haven't seen it)
He lost a fight in moanaBlack Adam's an anti-hero which he's been for a while now.
That and The Rock has some weird ego thing about not wanting to lose fights, I don't think he'd want to lose to an elf twink on screen.
Good old comics. You either die a villain or get popular enough to become an anti-hero instead lolBlack Adam's an anti-hero which he's been for a while now.
He wouldn't do it for anything less than it becoming The Legend of Ganondorf so he can reclaim Hyrule from that tyrant Zelda and her pesky tunic-wearing, house-barging, pot-smashing errand boy. xDThat and The Rock has some weird ego thing about not wanting to lose fights, I don't think he'd want to lose to an elf twink on screen.
No, Maui lost a fight in Moana. The Rock still has a spotless record!He lost a fight in moana
and in Transformers PrimeHe lost a fight in moana
Sure but that's animated.He lost a fight in moana
He got beat so bad in that one he turned into a Zombie.and in Transformers Prime
Honestly I don't disagree, although I'm grateful that it gave us Falco. Unsure if they would have bothered with him by Brawl and really Melee wouldn't be the same without him... maybe for some this isn't a fair trade to be stuck with Falcondorf for twenty years, but I'm looking on the bright side here.I think they would've been better off just accepting it was gonna be a smaller roster instead of beefing it up with clones.
Alternatively, if Melee got another year to cook, here's the roster I'd choose (Italics bold denotes unlockable characters):Okay, so...if you guys got to choose seven unique characters and seven Echo Fighters for Melee, who would you guys pick? For me:
Peach Bowser Ice Climbers Sheik Zelda Marth Mewtwo Ayumi Tachibana (Peach / Zelda Echo) Pichu
(Pikachu Echo) Falco
(Fox Echo) Young Link
(Link Echo) Mach Rider
(Captain Falcon Echo) Celica (Marth Echo) Bubbles (Kirby Echo)
Mario | Luigi | Peach | Bowser | Yoshi | Wario¹ | Donkey Kong | Diddy Kong | Link | Zelda / Sheik |
Ganondorf² | Samus | Kirby | Fox | Falco | Pikachu | Jigglypuff | Mewtwo | Scizor | Ness |
| Captain Falcon | Ice Climbers | Ayumi Tachibana³ | Marth | Celica⁴ | Bubbles⁵ | Mach Rider⁶ | Mr. Game & Watch | |
Battlefield (Special stage) | Bob-Omb Battlefield (Mario's stage) | Luigi Raceway (Luigi's stage) | Peach's Castle (Peach's stage) | Bowser's Castle (Bowser's stage) | Yoshi's Story (Yoshi's stage) |
Rice Beach (Wario's stage) | Kongo Falls (Donkey Kong's stage) | Jungle Japes (Diddy Kong's stage) | Death Mountain (Link's stage) | Temple (Zelda / Sheik's stage) | Gerudo Valley (Ganondorf's stage) |
Brinstar (Samus' stage) | Fountain of Dreams (Kirby's stage) | Corneria (Fox's stage) | Venom (Falco's stage) | Pallet Town (Pikachu's stage) | Pokémon Stadium (Jigglypuff's stage) |
Cerulean Cave (Mewtwo's stage) | Sprout Tower (Scizor's stage) | Onett (Ness' stage) | Big Blue (Captain Falcon's stage) | Condor's Peak (Ice Climbers' stage) | Talys (Marth's stage) |
Flat Zone (Mr. Game & Watch's stage) | Kongo Jungle (Past stage) | Super Happy Tree (Past stage) | Dream Land (Past stage) | Saffron City (Past stage) | Final Destination (Special stage) |
In this scenario, I’d also probably drop Mr. Game & Watch for the unique fighters, and Daisy would be my seventh clone. I kept the other seven unique fighters as Bowser, Peach, and Mewtwo were highly requested, Marth gives a more formal introduction of Fire Emblem to the west, and Zelda/Sheik and Ice Climbers have cool gimmicks.Okay, so...if you guys got to choose seven unique characters and seven Echo Fighters for Melee, who would you guys pick? For me:
Peach Bowser Ice Climbers Sheik Zelda Marth Mewtwo Ayumi Tachibana (Peach / Zelda Echo) Pichu
(Pikachu Echo) Falco
(Fox Echo) Young Link
(Link Echo) Mach Rider
(Captain Falcon Echo) Celica (Marth Echo) Bubbles (Kirby Echo)
Ok to be honest I do like having Ware Wario, and at this point that is arguably the premier version of the character. However, yeah, you could make room for some Wario Land moves, as those games are also a substantial part of his history.Honestly I don't disagree, although I'm grateful that it gave us Falco. Unsure if they would have bothered with him by Brawl and really Melee wouldn't be the same without him... maybe for some this isn't a fair trade to be stuck with Falcondorf for twenty years, but I'm looking on the bright side here.
I would have loved to see what Melee would look like had (presumably) Wario been given the dev time over the clones though. I'm typically a defender of Brawl / Ware Wario but I wonder if he would feel more like "traditional" Wario if he was added just one game prior. That gap between Melee and Brawl really changed the course of history for him, I think more than it would have nearly any other character on the roster.
The "Ridley for Smash" thing goes all the way to the pre-Melee days since the Melee animated intro (which was officially shown before release) does in fact feature him, making a lot of people believe he was a hidden character. That was one of the biggest disappointments on the roster for a lot of people, and what also made a lot of people think the leak was a joke since Ridley wasn't in it.I bet. I remember even Brawl's had a lot of backlash at the end (despite a few credible leaks at that point), and that was generally regarded as the strongest selection, at least until Ultimate. Melee would've had Dark Pits all over the place, lol.
Out of curiosity, who do you remember being the most requested characters in the Melee era? Testimony from that time is now mostly second-hand.
I almost got scared and looked at his record to find his involvement with a lot of Marvel movies in general, including all of the Spiderman movies and Spiderverse movies and whatnot.Smash speculation never paid attention to how Sony Music distributes the Pokemon anime's soundtracks, then again seeing a Sony logo on a Zelda movie released worldwide would be more prominent.
What should also be prominent is that Avi Arad was also the producer of
What kind of moves would even represent Wario Land? The only really iconic move there is the Dash Attack (Shoulder Bash), and Ultimate finally put in both that and the bike.Ok to be honest I do like having Ware Wario, and at this point that is arguably the premier version of the character. However, yeah, you could make room for some Wario Land moves, as those games are also a substantial part of his history.
The director did the Maze Runner trilogy. He's also doing the new Planet of the Apes. I have not seen all those movies, but I think he's competent enough for something like this. He's at least familiar with stunt-heavy, environmental stuff. And let's be real, he's basically work-for-hire here. This isn't some auteur movie.I'll see what happens. Looking at his involvement and records with Marvel movies in general, it's looking like a 50/50. Looks like it really depends on their writers, directors and whatnot.
Ryan was certainly one of the best parts, but the main plot itself wasn't bad(Predictable, but not bad overall) and it did have some good moments without too much of Ryan's improv, like the Mr. Mime scene and the illegal arena scene.The director did the Maze Runner trilogy. He's also doing the new Planet of the Apes. I have not seen all those movies, but I think he's competent enough for something like this. He's at least familiar with stunt-heavy, environmental stuff. And let's be real, he's basically work-for-hire here. This isn't some auteur movie.
The writer, on the other hand, is from the new Jurassic Trilogy. And Detective Pikachu. But Detective Pikachu without the Ryan Reynolds improv. So...