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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

DarthEnderX

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You forgot the assist trophies you personally want.
Assist Trophies
King Hippo [Punch-Out]
Eggplant Wizard [Kid Icarus]
Chocobo [Final Fantasy]
Slimes/King Slime[Dragon Quest]
Majima [Yakuza]
Rygar [Rygar]
Abobo [Double Dragon]
Vic Viper [Gradius]
Mike Jones [Star Tropics]
Sophia 3rd [Blaster Master]

Mii Costumes

Swordfighter:
Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden] (if not getting as Fighter)
Crono [Chrono Trigger] (if not getting as Fighter)
Frog [Chrono Trigger]
Randi [Secret of Mana]
FF1 Fighter [Final Fantasy]
FF1 Ninja [Final Fantasy]
Majima [Yakuza]
Vergil [Devil May Cry]
Kuros [Wizards & Warriors]
The Knight [Hollow Knight]

Brawler:
Kunio/Riki [River City Ransom] (if not getting as Fighters)
Kiryu [Yakuza] (if not getting as Fighter)
King Hippo [Punch-Out]
Billy Lee/Jimmy Lee [Double Dragon]
Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe]
Robo [Chrono Trigger]
FF1 Monk [Final Fantasy]

Gunner:
Bill Rizer/Lance Bean [Contra] (if not getting as Fighters)
Quote [Cave Story]
Jason [Blaster Master]

Mage:
Ashley [WarioWare] (converted from Swordfighter)
Viridi [Kid Icarus] (converted from Swordfighter)
Lip [Panel de Pon] (converted from Swordfighter)
Veronica [Dragon Quest] (converted from Swordfighter)
Aerith [Final Fantasy] (converted from Swordfighter)
Eggplant Wizard [Kid Icarus]
Kamek [Super Mario Bros.]
Reimu [Touhou]
FF1 Black Mage [Final Fantasy]
FF1 White Mage [Final Fantasy]
Magus [Chrono Trigger]
 

silenthunder

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Since we were sort of talking about Grim Fandango, that was my early Christmas gift.
 

HyperSomari64

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Last night i dreamt the TV Set of Iono Zone was a stage in Smash.
Very creative the idea of fighting in a TV Set, but are there any part of Paldea that can work as a stage?
 

Ivander

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Last night i dreamt the TV Set of Iono Zone was a stage in Smash.
Very creative the idea of fighting in a TV Set
I mean, we technically do have Flat Zone, where we fight inside a Game & Watch handheld. And I think the GB Dreamland stage has us fighting inside a Gameboy. It's not a TV set, but we're still fighting inside something with a screen.
 

TCT~Phantom

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So, Scarlet and Violet did good. This launch is massive and it isn’t even the holiday season yet. Might just be Nintendo’s biggest launch ever.
 
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chocolatejr9

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So, Scarlet and Violet did good. This launch is massive and it isn’t even the holiday season yet. Might just be Nintendo’s biggest launch ever.
For comparison, God of War Ragnarok (apparently Sony's biggest launch ever) sold 5 million copies in five days. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet sold TWICE that in only THREE days. That's... pretty big.
 

Goombaic

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So, Scarlet and Violet did good. This launch is massive and it isn’t even the holiday season yet. Might just be Nintendo’s biggest launch ever.
It's inevitable now.

I'm going to shill this dolphin forever. Meowscarada who?
 

silenthunder

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My prediction for the next smash is Ezio, Rayman, Alucard, 2b and Kazuma kiryu. And they will play just like in their respective games. (Brawlhalla and Rainbow Six Seige)
 

TCT~Phantom

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For comparison, God of War Ragnarok (apparently Sony's biggest launch ever) sold 5 million copies in five days. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet sold TWICE that in only THREE days. That's... pretty big.
Dread it. Run from it. Meowscarada arrives all the same. I’m gonna just toss my hat in and say this is the pick for this Gen. I feel it in my bones.
 

Diddy Kong

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For comparison, God of War Ragnarok (apparently Sony's biggest launch ever) sold 5 million copies in five days. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet sold TWICE that in only THREE days. That's... pretty big.
Seems pretty likely that this generation of Pokemon gets a new character the next Smash. Unless the new generation comes out before the next Smash.
 

Perkilator

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I still have my heart set on Fuecoco, so you know what? I’m gonna whip up some specials.

B : Ember; Fuecoco shoots small fireball that leaves the opponent with a burning effect for a bit.
B + Forwards : Bite; Fuecoco leaps towards the opponent and bites them repeatedly with a mash of the B button.
B + Up : Fire Spin; Fuecoco spins around while covered in fire. When used on the ground, Fuecoco moved left and right and cannot stop until the move is finished.
B + Down : Overheat; Fuecoco launches itself in a fiery pepper shape, but its special moves have reduced power for a bit.
 

Ivander

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Dread it. Run from it. Meowscarada arrives all the same. I’m gonna just toss my hat in and say this is the pick for this Gen. I feel it in my bones.
I'll see what happens.

Because surprisingly enough, some of the new Pokemon I've seen all look like they would be fun picks for Smash that I'd be cool with.
And both Palafin and Baxcalibur would be frickin' meme worthy, with Palafin being the 2nd coming of "Totsugeki!" and Baxcalibur being Showa-era Godzilla.
Seems pretty likely that this generation of Pokemon gets a new character the next Smash. Unless the new generation comes out before the next Smash.
I mean, look at how many series have gotten a new highest selling entry on the Switch. Animal Crossing, Xenoblade 2, Splatoon 3, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Metroid Dread, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Ring Fit Adventure if you consider it the successor to Wii Fit, and looking like it, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.

I mean, to all of the titles not yet in Smash, just looking at their sales practically generates the prompt of "Seems pretty likely for that game to get into the next Smash."
 
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fogbadge

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Dread it. Run from it. Meowscarada arrives all the same. I’m gonna just toss my hat in and say this is the pick for this Gen. I feel it in my bones.
they're already in smash they were the first character in the fighter pass
 
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Oracle Link

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So considering that Kirby Music in Smash is well.... Improvable Let Me List all the chages i would make to the Kirby soundtrack:
Green Greens (Meele)
Green Greens (4)
Kirby Retro Medly
Dededes Theme (brawl)
Boss Theme Medley - Kirby Series
Ice Cream Island
Butter Building (brawl)
Gourmet Race (64)
Gourmet Race (meele)
Meta Knight's Revenge
The Great Cave Offensive
VS. Marx
Planet Popstar
Forest Stage
City Trial
Forest /nature Area
Squeak Squad Theme
The Adventure Begins
Through the Forest
Sky Tower
Crowned
Floral Fields
Fatal Blooms in Moonlight
The World to Win
Pink Ball Activate!
Kirby Battle Royale: Main Theme

Dededes Theme (4)
Staff Credits - Kirby's Dream Land
Butter Building (4)
Gourmet Race (Brawl)
Dangerous Dinner
Crowned ver.2
Venturing into the Mechanized World
02 Battle
Celestial Valley
Frozen Hillside
The Legendary Air Ride Machine
A Battle of Friends and Bonds 2

Dededes Royal Payback (VS MAsked Dedede Triple d)
Roar of Dedede
Vs Mecha Knight
Apple Juice Song (Remix)
Vs Dark Meta Knights Revenge
Aeon Hero 2 (Galacta Knight)
Morpho Knight (Forgotten Land)
Dark Matter Clone Theme
Neon Laboratory/ Dark Castle
Crazy Rolling in Money (Vs Haltman)
Vagrant counting song of Retrospection
Vs Void Termina Phase 4
VS Hyness (Unhooded)
Vs. Paralel Mage Sisters
Two Planets Aproach the Roche Limit
The Beast Packs Final Stand






Right now only the list of Songs in Ultimate is Complete!
 
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Diddy Kong

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What are your thoughts on more 2D smash fighters we only got :ultgnw: So far
If we get more I think Space Invaders, Geolyte and Paper Mario could increase that number
Paper Mario was a cute idea when the games where still good. Nowadays, I couldn't really care less.

Also how is Pokemon Scarlet and Violet ?
 

Perkilator

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So considering that Kirby Music in Smash is well.... Improvable Let Me List all the chages i would make to the Kirby soundtrack:
Green Greens (Meele)
Green Greens (4)
Kirby Retro Medly
Dededes Theme (brawl)
Boss Theme Medley - Kirby Series
Ice Cream Island
Butter Building (brawl)
Gourmet Race (64)
Gourmet Race (meele)
Meta Knight's Revenge
The Great Cave Offensive
VS. Marx
Planet Popstar
Forest Stage
City Trial
Forest /nature Area
Squeak Squad Theme
The Adventure Begins
Through the Forest
Sky Tower
Crowned
Floral Fields
Fatal Blooms in Moonlight
The World to Win
Pink Ball Activate!
Kirby Battle Royale: Main Theme

Dededes Theme (4)
Staff Credits - Kirby's Dream Land
Butter Building (4)
Gourmet Race (Brawl)
Dangerous Dinner
Crowned ver.2
Venturing into the Mechanized World
02 Battle
Celestial Valley
Frozen Hillside
The Legendary Air Ride Machine
A Battle of Friends and Bonds 2
Hmmm…not gonna lie, I’m not really sure this is really an “improvement”. The only ones I’d really cut, personally, are
  • Butter Building (for 3DS / Wii U)
  • CROWNED Ver. 2
  • King Dedede’s Theme (for 3DS / Wii U)
 

Oracle Link

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Hmmm…not gonna lie, I’m not really sure this is really an “improvement”. The only ones I’d really cut, personally, are
  • Butter Building (for 3DS / Wii U)
  • CROWNED Ver. 2
  • King Dedede’s Theme (for 3DS / Wii U)
I wanted to add the new songs but It didnt work let me just write them down:

Dededes Royal Payback (VS MAsked Dedede Triple d)
Roar of Dedede
Vs Mecha Knight
Apple Juice Song (Remix)
Vs Dark Meta Knights Revenge
Aeon Hero 2 (Galacta Knight)
Morpho Knight (Forgotten Land)
Dark Matter Clone Theme
Neon Laboratory/ Dark Castle
Crazy Rolling in Money (Vs Haltman)
Vagrant counting song of Retrospection
Vs Void Termina Phase 4
VS Hyness (Unhooded)
Vs. Paralel Mage Sisters
Two Planets Aproach the Roche Limit
The Beast Packs Final Stand

so these are the Songs i forgot to add!
Its 42 Songs Total which seems like a reasonable ammount of Kirby Songs for the next Smash!
And yes there are tons of Battle Themes what shall i say i like good boss themes!
 

Perkilator

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I wanted to add the new songs but It didnt work let me just write them down:

Dededes Royal Payback (VS MAsked Dedede Triple d)
Roar of Dedede
Vs Mecha Knight
Apple Juice Song (Remix)
Vs Dark Meta Knights Revenge
Aeon Hero 2 (Galacta Knight)
Morpho Knight (Forgotten Land)
Dark Matter Clone Theme
Neon Laboratory/ Dark Castle
Crazy Rolling in Money (Vs Haltman)
Vagrant counting song of Retrospection
Vs Void Termina Phase 4
VS Hyness (Unhooded)
Vs. Paralel Mage Sisters
Two Planets Aproach the Roche Limit
The Beast Packs Final Stand

so these are the Songs i forgot to add!
Its 42 Songs Total which seems like a reasonable ammount of Kirby Songs for the next Smash!
And yes there are tons of Battle Themes what shall i say i like good boss themes!
You can add songs without removing so many other songs. I mean, Mario alone (taking into account the general Mario playlist and the Mario Kart playlist) has over 100 songs. And yes, I know, that’s because it’s Nintendo’s mascot, but the point is other series are perfectly fine to have more than 50 songs.
 
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Aligo

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Also how is Pokemon Scarlet and Violet ?
A lot of people I know who bought it were really enjoying it. The game is rather buggy, almost on par with gen 1, and has both hilarious and terrifying glitches. Provided the game doesn't softlock or crash on you, it should be a good time. If that does happen, it is possible to get a refund from Nintendo provided you bought it from the Nintendo store or eshop.
 

Oracle Link

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You can add songs without removing so many other songs. I mean, Mario alone (taking into account the general Mario playlist and the Mario Kart playlist) has over 100 songs. And yes, I know, that’s because it’s Nintendo’s mascot, but the point is other series are perfectly fine to have more than 50 songs.
True but there are tons of songs tons kirby fans wouldnt bet a Eye if they are missing for example most of the Airide Songs! but true you can and should give kirby more than 50 Songs! I just wanted to hold myself back!
 

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You can add songs without removing so many other songs. I mean, Mario alone (taking into account the general Mario playlist and the Mario Kart playlist) has over 100 songs. And yes, I know, that’s because it’s Nintendo’s mascot, but the point is other series are perfectly fine to have more than 50 songs.
Actually, on that note, if you could give any franchise any number of songs you want, what songs would you add for each franchise? For me:
 

Ivander

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True but there are tons of songs tons kirby fans wouldnt bet a Eye if they are missing for example most of the Airide Songs! but true you can and should give kirby more than 50 Songs! I just wanted to hold myself back!
I most certainly would, as someone who loves Kirby Air Ride. :sadsheep: Especially The Legendary Air Ride Machine.
 

Ivander

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Because is a remix of a score music in the Kirby anime.
Yet Checker Knights appeared in Smash Bros. Brawl already.

Even then, it appeared in Air Ride regardless, much like how some of the anime/movie stuff in Smash Bros. Ultimate appeared in games before their Smash appearance, like Ash Greninja or Cloud's Advent Children outfit.
 

Hadokeyblade

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Paper Mario was a cute idea when the games where still good. Nowadays, I couldn't really care less.

Also how is Pokemon Scarlet and Violet ?
Basically, it would be the best 3D Pokemon game to date if it wasn't for all the glitches, which i hope get patched down the line. It is rally fun when there are no glitches.

I want Jigglypuff's new form as an echo fighter in the next smash, alongside some of this games OST, because man is Scarlet and Violet full of bangers.
 
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