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Imagining a dude punching his wall every time a puzzle game made by like 5 people that reuses assets from 20 years ago gets announced.
I think the only game that wasn’t that successful was Echoes: Shadows of Valentia because it was a 3DS game released after the Switch but that eventually got one million.
Yeah Fates actually did very well from a commercial and traditional critical perspective. It's just really not the cup of tea for some people. I actually would rank it pretty low in terms of my personal favorite FEs but again, commercially and critically it was a successful outing for FE any way you slice it and lent even more credence to the idea that the series truly had broken out, i.e. that Awakening wasn't going to be a single-hit wonder.
Yeah woah lots of good ones here. Super smash bros is missing out if they keep not adding this music tracks from spin offs. Another good example is stuff like Hyrule warriors for example or Xenoblade X. Stuff like that needs more music as well.
>Fire Emblem Heroes in 2026: Book X
>X is 10's roman numeral
>Xenoblade was originally released in 2010 in Japan on the Wii
>10th anniversary of the european release of the first game
There are two tracks from Heroes in Smash but I assume that there wasn’t anything from the story because of time
We need like, a dedicated Fire Emblem Fighting game. Make it look like Granblue Fantasy Versus, but with a more Fire Emblem like artstyle (dunno which one you'd mold it on though since they're all pretty different from each other).
ZanZarah: The Hidden Portal? It seems to have enough of a niche to have gotten on Steam by request, but I've never seen anyone but me talk about it.
Fates was also 2 games you had to buy if you wanted to see the real ending. Which artificially inflates the number of copies sold vs. how many people bought it.
I would call selling less than half what the previous game sold, on the same system, mediocre.
looks at Majora's Mask
This is within the ballpark of what remakes/deluxe versions of an existing game often sell compared to a totally new iteration, fwiw - just next time you go on about how many people would enjoy the same thing we already got but with a little more.
So do you think Fates would have sold less than Awakening if it only had one version? Fates sold more than 700k copies than Awakaning, do you think more than 700k people bought both versions for themselves? Regardless it was still a bigger financial success, who cares what method they used to gain that success?
Right, but...Engage WASN'T a remake/deluxe version. It was a totally new iteration.
Yes. People do it all the time with Pokemon. I'm sure FE at least has 700k fans that wanted to see the entire game enough to buy both versions.
Sure. The second new title usually also sells worse than the first one on a system. Look at every console with two Zeldas.
Do you have any sources whatsoever to corroborate that? Even any data of how many people buy both Pokemon versions?
While that's often true, it's certainly not a given.
I...don't understand why you keep asking me to remember something that doesn't apply to what we're talking about.
Beat-em-ups for sure. After fighting games, it's the genre that should convert easiest to Smash. So it's crazy that we still don't have one.
Kunio could be our first beat-em-up rep AND sports rep!
I think rhythm would be the most interesting in terms of bringing the series' mechanic with it. But it would also be pretty tricky to find something that meshed into Smash's frantic pace while trying to maintain some steady rhythm. For all we know, that's why the Chorus Men didn't pan out.
Little Mac?
Fates provided the other routes as in-game dlc at half price which wouldn't count towards sales.
But, you classified how much Engage sold compared to 3H as mediocre, which is also within the range of a deluxe version compared to a new version.
Fair point.
I would consider a new entry that only sells as well as a deluxe version of an old entry to be pretty mediocre.
But...I DIDN'T make that caveat. You brought up deluxe versions, not me.
Do you have any sources whatsoever to corroborate that?
There’s a lot of characters I’d love to see that would represent new gaming genres to Smash. Here’s a few of my favorites:
Is Pikmin and RTS? It feels pretty different from StarCraft and WarCraft. I always assumed it was just its own thing. I suppose I can see how you could consider it to be one.
It’s always the genre I see it listed as.
It definitely has some common traits with RTS games like squad management, resource control and multitasking but it lacks base building and is more focused on a single unit and has more of an adventure and puzzle solving style that traditional RTS games don’t have. So while I’ll say they do have a lot in common, I’m not sure I’d classify it as a full RTS game.
It counts
Phoenix Wright, a point and click adventure game protagonist is the guy ive been asking for. lol
Well ive suggested Super Robot Wars for a character in the past, that's pretty niche outside of Japan since most of the series is Japan only.
I think the issues are twofold:
Yeah, I can definitely relate to that. I feel like Byleth and Corrin would have had a better reception if timing had worked out for them to be base game. There’s a certain expectation that comes with DLC and a blank slate avatar from a series that already has a lot of characters isn’t exactly the most exciting thing.I think the issues are twofold:
1.
"Oh boy I can't wait to see what the next DLC character is. I'm hoping for [INSERT BIG NAME HERE]!"
An avatar character with a non-specific personality from a series you don't care about presented in a trailer that's literally just a cutscene from their game joins the battle!
2.
Corporate wants to determine the difference between these pictures:
"They're the same picture. Please give me something different next time."
I want more characters I like. Some of them happen to be Fire Emblem characters. So I’d be excited to get those characters regardless of how many characters we already have. That said, my favorite FE characters are mostly the supporting cast so they’re unlikely to join. I’m just kind of bored with avatar characters in general.
It’s not Nintendo that’s the problem. It’s Sakurai. He outright expressed some concern that Fire Emblem may be overrepresented in the Famitsu column following Corrin’s announcement and he really tried to distance himself from Byleth’s inclusion. His concerns may be offset by Fire Emblem losing some veterans, though.
On the other hand, After Byleth It was cemented more than ever that as long as Sakurai had a good idea for a move set, it didn't really matter what they were from. So yeah, he might want less fire emblem, but if they need to add one, he won't hesitate.
to be fair some people who like FE reacted like that"Oh boy I can't wait to see what the next DLC character is. I'm hoping for [INSERT BIG NAME HERE]!"
An avatar character with a non-specific personality from a series you don't care about presented in a trailer that's literally just a cutscene from their game joins the battle!
I would say no. I don't believe this has ever actually happened so in many ways it's just another fan rule.
