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Pretty sure it's rather self-explanatory. Treasure Tracker and 8 Deluxe didn't have the same impact if we're comparing Wii U ports. One is the best selling game of the entire console and is played to this day pretty much and kept receiving content until the early 2020s and the other sold far less well and I doubt many people play it to this day
...why wouldn't they?
so what you’re saying is something you can’t back up?
Seconding Midna. She's my most wanted example of one-time character.
I feel like Toad being playable would have already happened if he wasn’t a counter move. Maybe by Brawl since that game didn’t introduce any new Mario characters outside of the ones considered separate such as Wario and Diddy Kong.
You can just give Peach a new neutral special and change some of her throws in order to account for a playable Toad.
OK, so Idk why people think that just because I said it's self explanatory means that I can't explain it for some reason? I mean it is self explanatory because, what impact did Captain Toad Treasure Tracker have in terms of sales, in terms of staying power, player base, acclaim, popularity etc. to say that 'yes Captain Toad had that one hit game, we should put him in Smash'? Sorry for the rant but the fact that something so simple as the fact that that one cute little game Captain Toad got just remained niche is honestly baffling.
Actually since Toad Shield is a pretty bad counter it would probably be called Toadsworthless.
That name with a screencap of Toadsworth's petrified face does feel right.
I think that character reveals would approach something more like For‘s, so I think we’ll get about three or four newcomers revealed initially, and most or even all of the remaining ones will get a trailer following after. For guessing which newcomers would be revealed in the initial trailer, I’ll go with this rough order:
Alt wishlist:
I’m leaning to roughly 15 to 20 veterans being revealed, which is more than For’s initial veteran lineup, but Ultimate has a much larger roster. Maybe we’d see something like this:
While Waluigi is the frontrunner, it is interesting to consider which Super Mario character might also join the roster, and I’ll go with my intuition on least likely to most likely from the ones mentioned more often.
Yeah, while I don't think it would hurt to explain it (especially if somebody ask), I also don't think it was necessary for people go "it's something you can't back up" or "you can't define it". At least wait and give somebody more opportunities to explain until it becomes clear rather than already accusing them from the start. It's clear that some people need to work on the way they approach people on this site.
there is more since clones and echo fighter can easily be made for some of the already featured mario characters such as boshi and dry bowser and funky kong
this all sounds like a you thing more than anything else. we toads have been nothing but happy with the game and have very fond time with it. "impact" is one of those things I find it hard to follow because people tend to use it to mean different things. but there's plenty of us who loved the game and would love another one. I suppose in short you giving me the sense that you think your own opinion on the game is the general consensus
They said sales and longevity in their post asking impact to be explained.
Not sure about Boshi since most of the original characters from Mario RPG are owned by Square unless characters based on pre-existing species are the exception.
Listen, if you really want to believe that Treasure Tracker was that big of a deal, you are free to do so. But don't say that it's a 'me' thing that it remains niche in terms of sales, popularity and standing among so many other Mario and Switch games among the general audience, these are just facts that speak for themselves, not because I say them. Bravo that you and other 'toads' enjoyed the game, I never argued that the game was bad or a flop but literally every game in the face of the earth has people who 'enjoyed' it. That doesn't make them impactful or noteworthy or popular. If anything arguing that Treasure Tracker was such a big game is more of a 'you' thing and that it's your opinion you want to be applied as the general consensus when the data just doesn't back it up.
I think Geno is in the best position he's ever been in with the remake and everything, but since this is his best shot, if he misses it, it's gonna be hard to imagine him popping up outside of a Mii Costume going forward. And since he's a Square Enix character, it means he also has competition with a ton of other Final Fantasy characters and things like Nier Automata and even potentially Chrono Trigger (though Chrono Trigger is probably on the lower end since it just gets infrequent ports like the DS and Steam releases), which is a hard sell for what's essentially a one-off Mario character.
Oh, no lie, I agree. In fact, it happens I forgot to put in the part about this being his best shot and what happens if he misses it. Please don’t ask; it happens.
I have heard alleged rumors of FF9 being remade alongside Tactics? Nothing about 8, but that did get a remaster back in 2019 apparently?
I must have gotten the number wrong.
If this is what it takes to bring Toadsworth back, I'm in.
Ditto! I would actually like to see Toadsworth again, myself.
I don't think they'll use Boshi at all, but if they do, then an alternate costume would be more fitting here.
They never mentioned it nor added any music from it so probably not.
less of the attitude if you please. I never said the game was big just that dismissing it as impactless was a bit harsh. but hey if you think we should talk about characters who’s games sold a certain amount then you do you
That makes sense, but what exactly did they not mention, just to be sure?
Final Fantasy VII Remake.
I remember someone saying it was. That said, it still makes sense, but I see what you mean.
Well if you're gonna second Midna, I'm gonna second Skull Kid. Who is flat out my most wanted, so there. Trying to let Midna one up my Skull Kid, unbelievable.
It's possible that I'm wrong about them mentioning the remake, but all of the music is from vanilla FFVII, Advent Children, or a Smash original remix of one of a song from one of the two.
This is the essence of why there's no Zelda character popular enough to be a fanbase inclusion, lol.
Really? that is interesting. Makes me think more that copyright is a pain, especially how Square Enix handles it.
