Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

All it needs is a proper spark and speculation will fly. Sakurai and/or a reveal intro.

Though, I wonder how the reveal trailer will be for the next Smash Bros? Should it change or stay?

Well that depends on what you mean by "Should it change or stay?", but the main thing I'm curious about for a Smash reveal is who would headline the reveal trailer? In Smash 4 it was Villager, and in Ultimate it was the Inklings, but we don't really have anyone like that that's not already in the game going into this one I don't think, unless the initial trailer reveal is gonna be like Waluigi or something lol

 

[Guynamednelson]

I don’t know where you are getting the info that the original game sold 30 million copies, but based on official sources that I could find the series sales goes like this.
The Last of Us (PS3) 8.4 million
The Last of Us Remastered (PS4) 11.79 million
The Last of us Part II 10 million

And those sales could potentially include copies bundled with consoles.

For a while, it was nearly impossible to get a PS4 that wasn't bundled with Horizon: Zero Dawn. That's where a LOT of its 24.3 million sales came from, rather that people buying a PS4 and then buying Horizon.

 

[MrMcNuts]

Also, he was spared from Activision Blizzard's wake by going indie. So, his series is clear from a major roadblock. Rayman's fate on the other hand......

Needs to be studied how some Crash for Smash fans cannot for the life of them bring him up without making it a Rayman VS Crash thing.

Also Rayman is already coming back lol

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[Dukefire]

Don't make me write a post defending Crash's merits like I did for Sora.

At this point I suspect it's partial trolling.

People really will argue anything.

For the invitation to join smash bros..
Friendly and/or trolling conversations can turn sour due to instability.

And the next game isn't even announced yet....are we really ready to start this again?

 

[Kirbeh]

For the invitation to join smash bros..
Friendly and/or trolling conversations can turn sour due to instability.

And the next game isn't even announced yet....are we really ready to start this again?

What do you mean start? Speculation has been going on for years now? Arguments naturally come as part of that, tiresome as they may be.

 

[Mamp]

Who is the most likely character that isn’t discussed much?

easily an assassin’s creed character. i think it’s lowkey one of the more likely third party franchises given how huge it is and ubisoft’s very good relationship with nintendo atm

A bit late to the talk about Sakurai's Super Special Secret Project, but I think the best argument in favor of "Not Smash" I've seen is that Bandai-Namco has been developing Smash for over a decade now, and just recently solidified a dedicated team for working with Nintendo. Sakurai said whatever he's working on needed him to put a whole new team together, which seems rather illogical when you've already got a perfectly good team that's worked on Smash before. I'm on team "Not Smash" because of that

the smash team at bamco switched to development on tekken 8 immediately after sora released iirc

 

[RodNutTakin]

Tetris Block (seriously)

Genuinely why. Arle makes way more sense for a slew of reasons.
This is as bad as suggesting the player turret from Space Invaders as a STG rep or the ASCII character representing the player character from Rogue as a dungeon-crawler rep.
ROB and Plant were one thing, but I actively cross the line at a literal inanimate object without a face or limbs. Why do you think Sakurai rejected Pac-Man initially on the basis of thinking it'd have to always be the player sprite version of him?

Also if the new project really isn't Smash and the next game started dev like...last year, I really want them to take their sweet time with it. I can only imagine how painful it's going to be if they decided to bumrush SSB6's production.

 

[BrawlX10]

All it needs is a proper spark and speculation will fly. Sakurai and/or a reveal intro.

Though, I wonder how the reveal trailer will be for the next Smash Bros? Should it change or stay?

I hope it's more like Smash 4's reveal at E3 2013....Ultimate reveal gave us the iconic inkling eye meme, but honestly, it was kind of a boring reveal just a "Super Smash Bros" logo reveal, not even the Ultimate subtitle was revealed.

 

[Diddy Kong]

A bit late to the talk about Sakurai's Super Special Secret Project, but I think the best argument in favor of "Not Smash" I've seen is that Bandai-Namco has been developing Smash for over a decade now, and just recently solidified a dedicated team for working with Nintendo. Sakurai said whatever he's working on needed him to put a whole new team together, which seems rather illogical when you've already got a perfectly good team that's worked on Smash before. I'm on team "Not Smash" because of that

Could still just be Smash. Ultimate already had a great base. Yeah Namco been involved but they don't exactly always have to.

Am 99,999% convinced this is Smash.

 

[Dukefire]

I hope it's more like Smash 4's reveal at E3 2013....Ultimate reveal gave us the iconic inkling eye meme, but honestly, it was kind of a boring reveal just a "Super Smash Bros" logo reveal, not even the Ultimate subtitle was revealed.

Back then, it was the hype since no one knew the name. It did pay off after Everyone is Here showed up for E3 Nintendo Direct.

Still gives me hype seeing it.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

easily an assassin’s creed character. i think it’s lowkey one of the more likely third party franchises given how huge it is and ubisoft’s very good relationship with nintendo atm


the smash team at bamco switched to development on tekken 8 immediately after sora released iirc

Yeah i think people underestimate Etzio.

I didnt play every Assassins creed game but with the usual gameplay style i can easily see a Smash moveset coming along.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I've seen people arguing that Halo theme isn't iconic.

I remember hearing a snippet of it once, and then instantly recognizing it months later. I have a pretty amazing memory when it comes to music, but that's still impressive memorability.

If a song like that is in a game so many people played and isn't iconic, it's impossible to make a song iconic.

 

[BrawlX10]

Yeah i think people underestimate Etzio.

I didnt play every Assassins creed game but with the usual gameplay style i can easily see a Smash moveset coming along.

Now that you mention it, it's interesting Ezio isn't mentioned much with how popular AC series is. Peraphs there isn't much crossover between smash fans who post on forums and AC fans? Idk lol.

Could still just be Smash. Ultimate already had a great base. Yeah Namco been involved but they don't exactly always have to.

Am 99,999% convinced this is Smash.

I'm more like 55% convinced myself, there's still some stuff that makes me question if it's really smash, but i lean sighly more than is smash.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Now that you mention it, it's interesting Ezio isn't mentioned much with how popular AC series is. Peraphs there isn't much crossover between smash fans who post on forums and AC fans? Idk lol.

I think it's that whenever Ubisoft characters come up, it either devolves into how terrible the company is or immediately gets drowned out by Rayman like he's the only thing that matters.

 

[Lionfranky]

I think it's that whenever Ubisoft characters come up, it either devolves into how terrible the company is or immediately gets drowned out by Rayman like he's the only thing that matters.

Not to mention Ubisoft is in deep trouble right now.... Ezio is in my most wanted list btw....

 

[Ivander]

I think it's that whenever Ubisoft characters come up, it either devolves into how terrible the company is or immediately gets drowned out by Rayman like he's the only thing that matters.

And that first argument certainly didn't end with Ubisoft. This argument has happened in regards to Konami, Riot Games/Tencent and especially Activision Blizzard. And SNK and MiHoYo have sometimes gotten it. SNK because of them being purchased by the one Saudi Arabian company and MiHoYo in regards to stuff with the CCP in general(which is a general issue all companies based in China have to deal with).

 

[DarthEnderX]

Not to mention Ubisoft is in deep trouble right now.... Ezio is in my most wanted list btw....

After Lost Crown, Prince of Persia surpassed Ezio.

His moveset was made for Smash.

 

[SharkLord]

Could still just be Smash. Ultimate already had a great base. Yeah Namco been involved but they don't exactly always have to.

Am 99,999% convinced this is Smash.

Yeah, but... they're already there. Why go through the trouble of assembling a whole new team when you've got a perfectly good one already? Especially after Bamco codified a dedicated Nintendo support team; that makes it clear Bandai-Namco's still in Nintendo's good graces and willing to help out. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I'm honestly just assuming Bamco returns to develop the next game. It seemed like a very intentional move to switch the series to them during Smash 4, and sticking with them throughout Ultimate has received extremely successful results. Given who makes up the dev team would likely be up to Sakurai, it seems he's made himself comfortable heading some of the projects there, at least for the not too distant future.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I'm honestly just assuming Bamco returns to develop the next game. It seemed like a very intentional move to switch the series to them during Smash 4, and sticking with them throughout Ultimate has received extremely successful results. Given who makes up the dev team would likely be up to Sakurai, it seems he's made himself comfortable heading some of the projects there, at least for the not too distant future.

I mean given Studio 2 and Studio S exist specifically for Namco to work with Nintendo, I'd imagine that's a safe bet that Namco will keep coming back lol

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I mean given Studio 2 and Studio S exist specifically for Namco to work with Nintendo, I'd imagine that's a safe bet that Namco will keep coming back lol

Yeah, I struggle to think of a reason why a change like that would even happen in the first place given how much of Ultimate's team seemingly still works at Ultimate.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Yeah, I struggle to think of a reason why a change like that would even happen in the first place given how much of Ultimate's team seemingly still works at Ultimate.

Not to mention I can't imagine Namco being like "no, we don't want to make money developing a huge franchise like Smash! just pay us for pac-man and kazuya instead!" lol

 

[Stratos]

Any thoughts or ideas on Reiji Arisu? You know, the protagonist from Namco × Capcom who was also in both games in the Project X Zone series. In Project X Zone 1 there were characters from Namco Bandai, Capcom, and Sega, just like in Project X Zone 2, with the only difference being that there were a few Nintendo characters there too, and of course I'm talking and writing about Fiora from Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and Chrom and Lucina. I think Reiji Arisu would be a perfect choice to come as a newcomer to the Super Smash Bros. series to represent the collaboration of these companies.

 

[BritishGuy54]

I don't see why they'd have more or less negotiating power than other dev tbh. It depends more on what both parties are looking to get out of it. Nintendo may want "x", MS could say that they have to represent them in "y" fashion, etc. I could see MS maybe pushing for something in particular but if Nintendo isn't interested or doesn't match Sakurai's vision, they'd ultimately just say no.

If MS were to be particularly difficult about something (and I don't see why they would be) I think it's more likely that Sak/Nin just back out of negotiations to work with a company that's more cooperative. Again though, outside of the normal back and forth regarding a franchise's handling or possible suggestions, I don't see what MS would do with "more negotiating power." I think you'd have to be a bit more specific about the context you're using for that.

Outside of standard negotiations/promotional content or something, anything else would potentially be overstepping their boundaries and be seen as trying to meddle with the project too much.

I can see this happening with the third parties, both in Smash, and looking to get into Smash.

With Ultimate’s success, third parties would be eyeing up Smash as a way of promotion.

But Nintendo also has their own series to promote. I imagine Nintendo would love to promote their own IPs that have grown in the Switch era in a Smash 6.

Is it possible third parties would be the ones approaching Sakurai now rather than the other way round? It might seem to Nintendo them overstepping their boundaries.