Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[RodNutTakin]

Wouldn't this be applied to a lot of series that lost momentum?
I mean... you can bring how situation and circumstances are different from each series.
But, we will likely get caught off guard in next Smash.

"Lost momentum" ≠ Becoming actively hated as a series by lots of people.
I don't think the Overwatch in Smash situation is comparable to something like Klonoa or Darkstalkers. The latter two series are dormant, but people still very much like those series and the characters they're from. I've seen Overwatch slammed repeatedly ever since...what, 2019 or 2020 when Actiblizz controversies began publicly surfacing?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Would it have changed anything at all though if Sheik was left behind after Melee?

In Brawl, it likely would've meant Mewtwo got finished up, which is good, but it doesn't help the Zelda series at all.

In Smash 4, the Zelda series got nothing. MAYBE it would've given them enough time to work on the Chorus Kids or whatever Rhythm Heaven character was supposed to happen and maybe Bowser Jr. would've been better with more time, but there's really no way to tell. Certainly not anything related to Zelda though.

And then in Ultimate, Sheik would have come back in the same vein as Pichu and Young Link, so we'd be in the exact same scenario we're in now, but maybe with a Rhythm Heaven character in Ultimate's base game.

It wouldn't change much perhaps, all I can think of is that the outcry for a Zelda newcomer would be even bigger if this was the case. Maybe.

I would have preferred Mewtwo over Sheik though. Not gonna lie.

 

[Lionfranky]

"Lost momentum" ≠ Becoming actively hated as a series by lots of people.
I don't think the Overwatch in Smash situation is comparable to something like Klonoa or Darkstalkers. The latter two series are dormant, but people still very much like those series and the characters they're from. I've seen Overwatch slammed repeatedly ever since...what, 2019 or 2020 when Actiblizz controversies began publicly surfacing?

We don't know how much Nintendo would factor such reception. It's not like Nintendo never worked with companies with shady history. I know you will say which company isn't or Activision Blizzard has worse all that. But, I think other companies with fighters in Smash have just as many skeletons in the closet. For all we know, that kind of issue may be buried under number on sheet... or internet perception may not be reflective.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

It's hard to see Villager as a "duh" pick when prior to Smash 4, Sakurai had gone on record saying he had trouble figuring out a moveset for him in Brawl.

It was more the vibe and “not being suited for battle” rather then moveset. This is also why the Miis in Brawl and supposedly the Nintendogs weren’t added.

Unrelated but was Isabelle a “duh” pick before Ultimate?

 

[Diddy Kong]

It was more the vibe and “not being suited for battle” rather then moveset. This is also why the Miis in Brawl and supposedly the Nintendogs weren’t added.

Unrelated but was Isabelle a “duh” pick before Ultimate?

Yeah she was. We all expected Villager for Smash 4 too. Animal Crossing only grew after Brawl so it was seen as inevitable.

In most cases, characters we all expected to make it where showcased quite early in basically all the Smash games.

Which makes me think, we might see the likes of Noah and Octoling quite early too this next Smash game.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

Which makes me think, we might see the likes of Noah and Octoling quite early too this next Smash game.

Or at least Octoling since there is always debates on when Smash 6 was planned which could impact Noah chances.

Sakurai took a break after Sora released when he was doing his YouTube channel so it’s likely that full development and main planning started after the main recording for the channel was done. If it’s Smash at all.

 

[BackseatSakurai]

Or at least Octoling since there is always debates on when Smash 6 was planned which could impact Noah chances.

Octoling seems like one of the most likely to appear overall, but it would probably be a little underwhelming to start off with Inkling last time and then Octoling this time. I dunno. I'm genuinely at a loss trying to think of a proper headline-generating type of reveal to begin with.

If we go the Snake route (or Megaman like during that first wave of Smash 4 reveals) I'm wondering if Doomguy would be viable, at least for a third-party one? Seems too Western. But I also think people underestimate the Nintendo connection there (especially combined with being highly requested and iconic etc.) - DOOM SNES / GBA ports and DOOM 64 being a unique entry entirely. Always been pretty present on Nintendo hardware (as jank as the SNES version was lol)

 

[fogbadge]

But who am I?

well for the longest time I thought you were DK's nephew