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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

Gengar84

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If we get two Pokemon newcomers, I’d rather one be from the most recent generation and the other be a classic long time favorite. Limiting yourself to only the most recent games risks the characters just feeling like advertisements and promotional picks. I think that’s still important too but it does get kind of boring if that’s all there is.
 

Shinuto

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If we get two Pokemon newcomers, I’d rather one be from the most recent generation and the other be a classic long time favorite. Limiting yourself to only the most recent games risks the characters just feeling like advertisements and promotional picks. I think that’s still important too but it does get kind of boring if that’s all there is.
Gardevoir and Tinkaton got it.
 

dezeray112

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Big fighting game fan eh? I really like Guilty Gears’ music and Sol Badguy has a great design so I’d be happy to see him in Smash. The other options here look cool too. My most wanted fighting game characters are Fulgore (Killer Instinct), Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat), and Nightmare (Soul Calibur).
Always have been a huge fan of the fighting game fan since having played Tekken 3 back during my childhood and since then, I had gotten in to the likes of Street Fighter, King of Fighters, Virtua Fighter, Marvel Vs Capcom, Guilty Gear, Mortal Kombat, SoulCalibur, Darkstalkers etc.

Final Fantasy X is one of my favorite games ever. My favorite character is Lulu followed by Auron but I feel like Tidus and Yuna have the best shot. I opted for Yuna because I think a summoner based Smash moveset could be a ton of fun but Tidus could be cool too. I could see him taking a little page out of Shulk’s book to boost his stats like the Monado arts with Haste and Cheer.
Will say that I will agree with you that Final Fantasy X is also my favourite Final Fantasy title to date still in which I've also been a massive fan of Nobuo Uematsu's music work for the game as well.

As for Tidus' moveset, I could see him maybe perhaps cast some spells like Haste and Cheer like Shulk's Monado Arts as well as incorporating some of his Overdrive moves (Spiral Cut, Slice & Dice and Energy Rain) and perhaps using Blitz Ace (his final Overdrive move) as his Final Smash move.
 

NotGenerico

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So it's leak season again and it's heavily rumored that the Master Chief collection is coming to the Nintendo Switch 2. I personally think that Master Chief would become the likeliest Microsoft character to be added to Smash Bros if this does end up happening.

There's also heavy rumors of Red Dead Redemption 2 being a launch title, but I'm not sure if Nintendo would go for a Rockstar rep.
 

CommanderZaktan

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If we get two Pokemon newcomers, I’d rather one be from the most recent generation and the other be a classic long time favorite. Limiting yourself to only the most recent games risks the characters just feeling like advertisements and promotional picks. I think that’s still important too but it does get kind of boring if that’s all there is.
Meowscarada and Eevee
 

Dinoman96

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So it's leak season again and it's heavily rumored that the Master Chief collection is coming to the Nintendo Switch 2. I personally think that Master Chief would become the likeliest Microsoft character to be added to Smash Bros if this does end up happening.

There's also heavy rumors of Red Dead Redemption 2 being a launch title, but I'm not sure if Nintendo would go for a Rockstar rep.
Source btw: https://www.resetera.com/threads/na...ill-come-to-ps5-and-switch-2-as-well.1079067/

Nate's been pretty much entirely correct about Microsoft's multiplatform plans so there's not much reason left to doubt this. He also says that FF7 Remake and Rebirth are coming to Switch 2 and Xbox as well: https://www.resetera.com/threads/na...ake-released-in-2025-rebirth-in-2026.1079100/

Assuming all of this comes true, then basically the only real argument you could make against the Chief being in Smash is, well, the same thing holding back most other western third parties: not popular/notable enough in Japan.
 

RileyXY1

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I think that Western third party content is gonna be very rare, but when it does happen it will be big.
 

Dinoman96

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At the very least, Nate says that Microsoft is going to be a big supporter for the Switch 2, that they even plan on patching Xbox games already on Switch 1 like Grounded, Ori, etc for 4K support on Switch 2, and that we should be expecting a lot of their games on Switch 2 (and PS5) going forward.

Which does line up with Nintendo mentioning Microsoft as one of the publishers they want to strengthen relationships with. So I don't think we have to worry about them not being repped the next game, which bodes well for BK and Steve.
 
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RileyXY1

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At the very least, Nate says that Microsoft is going to be a big supporter for the Switch 2, that they even plan on patching Xbox games already on Switch 1 like Grounded, Ori, etc for 4K support on Switch 2, and that we should be expecting a lot of their games on Switch 2 (and PS5) going forward.

Which does line up with Nintendo mentioning Microsoft as one of the publishers they want to strengthen relationships with. So I don't think we have to worry about them not being repped the next game, which bodes well for BK and Steve.
I'm starting to get the feeling that Microsoft is planning to leave the console market entirely just like how Sega left in the early 2000s.
 

Dinoman96

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I'm starting to get the feeling that Microsoft is planning to leave the console market entirely just like how Sega left in the early 2000s.
Yep, that is exactly what is happening lol. Xbox as a console manufacturer and competitor to Nintendo/Sony is effectively over and they're just gonna survive as a big multi platform publisher like EA and 2K.
 
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Louie G.

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I think Microsoft playing ball against is an extremely safe bet. The only variable I'm curious about is how cooperative they will be for base game vs DLC.

Few companies would turn down the opportunity to be a Smash DLC character, with no doubt extra monetary gain to be had from direct transactions. This is the only means we've had Microsoft represented thus far, and on top of that is the factor of overseas communication. I have to imagine on that second front, most of the dirty work with Banjo and Steve is already done so it would just involve a few conversations and emails to settle. First part hinges on how much Microsoft cares about that extra $$$.

My prediction is that Banjo and Steve can easily come back on base roster - especially Banjo, if all the Rare content on NSO is anything to abide by. They really seem to value the idea of Nintendo elevating their legacy Rare content since this is where they will find their strongest audience. Minecraft is perhaps a hotter commodity, but Steve is genuinely that big to be worth handing over the extra bucks to have on day one. But much like Square Enix (presumably) before them, and with how many viable and popular Microsoft characters there are, they will continue to have a big presence through DLC cycles and will negotiate one or two new characters around the same time they settle the return of the first two.

And as I've stated in the past, somewhat controversially maybe, I don't see one coming back without the other. Banjo being virtual pocket change to bring back and having been such a highly sought after fan favorite, if relations with Microsoft are good I don't know why you wouldn't just grab him again. That's assuming Steve comes back as well which most people would sooner believe. Which again, outside of being a pretty complex character I don't see why not.
 
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chocolatejr9

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Man, Caddicarus makes this look easy, doesn't he? Took a whole minute to figure out the "Bros" standin...
At the very least, Nate says that Microsoft is going to be a big supporter for the Switch 2, that they even plan on patching Xbox games already on Switch 1 like Grounded, Ori, etc for 4K support on Switch 2, and that we should be expecting a lot of their games on Switch 2 (and PS5) going forward.

Which does line up with Nintendo mentioning Microsoft as one of the publishers they want to strengthen relationships with. So I don't think we have to worry about them not being repped the next game, which bodes well for BK and Steve.
Them also mentioning CyGames still gives me hope for something Dragalia Lost-related, as slim as those chances are. I miss it everyday.
 

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Yep, that is exactly what is happening lol. Xbox as a console manufacturer and competitor to Nintendo/Sony is effectively over and they're just gonna survive as a big multi platform publisher like EA and 2K.
Huh. You think that means we'll see Halo on the next console? That'd be interesting.

My first guess would be "no" because lol high graphics games on Nintendo hardware, but we got The Witcher III on Switch so I dunno.
 

Jave

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Oh hey look who just got a new trailer


Carmen Sandiego is one of those characters that I do feel has nearly everything to justify an appearance in Smash (History, relevancy, recognizable name, moveset potential), but just isn't popular enough to gather a spot in the playable roster due to too much competition. At the very least I hope for a Spirit cameo.
 
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