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id say the reverse has happened, with assist trophies starting out more abstract and having become more of a consolation prize. A lot of them have got so many moves that they don’t so much assist as take over
Waluigi is lucky that he already has millions that want to play as him in Smash. The rest of the ATs...not so much, except maybe the Sonic characters.
This is Color TV-Game stans erasure
Ridley and K Rool had a hell of a time. Hopefully Waluigi can break through the glass this time around
I disagree with this. Issac is the third most popular Nintendo candidate behind Waluigi and Bandana Dee. Even if there’s a gap between those two and Isaac, he still breaks the million+ threshold. Ashley, Zero, Alucard, Skull Kid, and Midna all also have sizeable followings, even if they aren’t massive.
Seriously, why aren't they open? It feels so backwards, the least a Smash-centric forum can do for its users is facilitate discussion for people that want to discuss the characters they want to see.
Agreed. And by the same token, some characters would just work better as Bosses than Fighters.
Characters like Bomberman, Zero, Alucard, Isaac, Krystal and Shovel Knight also have their supporters.
I think it's a really cool idea that was halfway thrown in the garbage. Something like that needed to be front and center or at least a constant force to be reckoned with and instead they made him a jabber that appears like three times and then turns into a puddle.
It's a cool idea that should have been shot down pretty quickly upon realizing that the physics engine was not their friend. At the very least they should have key-framed it. But nope, let's just let it flop around and clip through him and itself every time he moves.
Well that's a raw line. It's also pretty true. I'll have to remember this one.
I remember there was contention whether they'd even have this thread after Ultimate ended, or just confine Smash speculation to the social thread.
Yeah, it's always weird to me that the only time the request threads are open, is when they have the least impact. Because by the time a new Smash is announced, the roster is pretty much already decided.
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Honestly, classic pig Ganon would work for a good playable character. Better than the version of Ridley we have now. I ironically find Ridley as a Boss in Brawl (regular Ridley not Meta Ridley) a better representation than the playable version of Ridley in Ultimate. He's just awkward and heavily forced in. Not a popular take I know, but if Ridley was my most wanted character I wouldn't be satisfied with this, at all. I still love his inclusion cause he's in cause of pure fan demand, but yeah... I think they'd do Ganon more justice than Ridley is all am saying.
We actually did that during the DLC cycle for Ultimate. It was a lot of fun. It gave me the chance to talk about a lot of my favorites and learn things about other people’s favorites I wasn’t very familiar with. It was definitely a good way to avoid just repeating the same things over and over again like we can sometimes do here.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me too and I’ve brought up the idea a few times myself. I wonder if there just isn’t enough traffic to the site during the offseason to warrant multiple support threads? I know I got almost no replies in my own threads even during active speculation season. Though that’s probably more because I tend to have very different preferences in characters compared to the general Smash fanbase. Still, I think it’s a good idea that could help generate more varied discussion even if my specific topics never really catch on.
Disagree. Ganon's best representation is the one he has currently.
Agree! Ridley was better as a Boss.
I can agree to disagree. I think amongst potential Zelda newcomers, Impa and Ganon are the best choices in terms of longevity in the series and with consistent roles.
I don't want them to cut Ridley, rather fix him... make him larger at least.
Yeah, I definitely understand the opinion that Ridley worked better as a boss. In a sense, I agree but I’m still really happy he’s playable regardless. Ridley is just such a unique character and I love playable villains in Smash. I also like seeing more serious nonhuman characters. Smash doesn’t really have a ton of those at the moment see Ridley is a very welcome addition in my eyes.
That I can agree with. I’d love if Smash made a few characters that are meant to be imposing like Bowser, Ridley, and K. Rool larger than they currently are. They don’t have to be massive but I think they could stand to be a bit bigger. Bowser was actually a good size until Smash 4. When they made him stand upright, they had to shrink his model by a good amount which resulted in him looking a bit odd in scale now.
100% down with this. Gives a good idea which characters are most popular. And more on topic subjects. It's only for the better.
Neither do I. On account of...well...ya know.
It does feel like Sakurai, with him giving his Mii costume alternate colors and using the X Bomb as a reference to his bombs, seems to be toying with the idea of him being a playable character, so who knows? He just might get promoted next game.
I made a post about this earlier, but when I was looking at the competitive thread a few months back and in general they felt his moves are good and have practical uses (all non-Down Aerials, tilts, FSmash, USmash, Plasma Breath), he's just lacking enough that he struggles with camping or getting overwhelmed. When an opponent can keep him from playing his game, he has trouble getting back.
100%, Bowser, Ridley and K. Rool look so dumb at their current sizes. Bowser and K Rool technically being smaller than DK is wild. I actually modded Ultimate to make Bowser about as big as he is in Melee/Brawl and the result looks so much more natural.
Only thing I can think of is that a traditional pogo tail would have ridiculous range even by Ridley standards, and if it meteor smashed on top of that, RIP anybody offstage. I do agree that a tail strike from above would be appreciated if they can manage, I just don't know how not to make it busted. I do remember hearing someone suggest making Ridley's Down B strike downwards if used in the air, so maybe that would work?
The latter part I think is intentional since he follows the heavy design philosophy of "power big so therefore recovery bad", and one of the ways of doing that is by making his recovery predictable. On top of that, Wing Blitz is pretty darn strong, so I doubt the devs want him to put opponents in situations where he can end combos with it for K.O.s at silly percentages. Making it faster could also allow for jumpscare downward Wing Blitz spikes, which would be really funny, but maybe not the healthiest thing design-wise at any skill level.
Yeah King K. Rool's main issue is that he's a noob stomper to an even further degree than his archetype normally is, so any buffs you make have to be to his skill ceiling, and can't really touch his skill floor.
Personally I find the glide a little awkward to use so I wouldn’t especially want it. I’d rather just give Ridley another jump or two, would help give him a safer way to get back to stage than his extremely laggy Side and Up B but would hardly make him overpowered. I’m still a bit confused why Ridley only has three jumps in the first place, you could at least give him a conservative four jumps like Pit / Pittoo.
IIRC, the entire mechanic as it existed in SSBB was broken, but it's implimentation in Elytra is not nearly as powerful so it could be salvaged.
Charizard also only has 2 so maybe they're basing it off of that?
Well Ridley is built off of Charizard's assets, so maybe.
Eh, the limited directions are definitely arbitrary. I think it's to make the attack more distinct from the Fire Fox-like moves, and in exchange Ridley's wings are invincible and the move hits very hard.
