Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[NonSpecificGuy]

If there was anyone I would WANT Nintendo to buy it’s Konami but honestly I would be happy with literally any of the big three buying that **** fiesta of a company.

 

[Stratos]

For the next Nintendo console we will have to wait for 2024, but I want to hope that it will be mentioned this coming summer.

 

[Ivander]

If there was anyone I would WANT Nintendo to buy it’s Konami but honestly I would be happy with literally any of the big three buying that **** fiesta of a company.

It says alot when no other major companies have really said anything at all, let alone anything noteworthy, about Konami nowadays.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Konami would be a loaded purchase anyway, because their collective endeavors include a lot of heath clubs in addition to their gambling machines, and video game divisions. That stuff (on top of moving away from AAA titles, consistently putting out Yu-Gi-Oh releases, and generally going all in on the Switch in Japan) is what's allowed to be more profitable now than they were pre-2015.

 

[Ivander]

Man, I keep forgetting that Konami owns the Yu-Gi-Oh OCG/TCG and that a company buying Konami would potentially mean getting the Yugioh OCG/TCG. It's weird enough thinking of Sony or Microsoft owning the Yugioh Card game, but Nintendo owning it would bring out so many questions and thoughts.

Like if people arguing about Anime and Movies in Smash Bros when it comes to certain franchises and aspects like Pokemon, Digimon, Final Fantasy VII Advent Children, etc was polarising enough, not to mention the Goku fans and whatnot, Yugioh would be the Giant Eldritch Abomination overshadowing Earth in comparison if Nintendo ended up getting it. Doesn't even include the fact that Yugioh would be a copyright nightmare in comparison to Pokemon.

 

[chocolatejr9]

If there was anyone I would WANT Nintendo to buy it’s Konami but honestly I would be happy with literally any of the big three buying that **** fiesta of a company.

So basically this?

It's funny how this seems to be the general opinion on game company acquisitions pic.twitter.com/mrA7bjOMHs

— TheNCSmaster (@TheNCSmaster) February 3, 2022

Though for what it's worth, Platinum would also be a good one. Apparently they've been having financial problems recently? I don't have a source, though, so don't quote me.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So basically this?

It's funny how this seems to be the general opinion on game company acquisitions pic.twitter.com/mrA7bjOMHs

— TheNCSmaster (@TheNCSmaster) February 3, 2022

Though for what it's worth, Platinum would also be a good one. Apparently they've been having financial problems recently? I don't have a source, though, so don't quote me.

Platinum HAD financial troubles. Crazy enough NieR: Automata practically saved the company. A Square game. I don’t think Platinum really needs to be bought by anyone.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Platinum HAD financial troubles. Crazy enough NieR: Automata practically saved the company. A Square game. I don’t think Platinum really needs to be bought by anyone.

Really? I'd been hearing they were on another financial situation after Astral Chain released.

 

[Garteam]

I don't see why Sony would buy Capcom or Square Enix when they could do what they've done throughout the entirety of the PS4's lifecycle and just fund development for games they want to be Playstation exclusives. Sony may be interested in Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy, but I can't see 2022 Sony wanting much to do with Mega Man or Dragon Quest.

Buying Bungie made sense because they basically work on one IP, Destiny. Sony sees a lot of value in Destiny, so they see a lot of value in buying Bungie.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Really? I'd been hearing they were on another financial situation after Astral Chain released.

Astral Chain did above their expectations. Why would they be in financial trouble after that? It’s one of the few Platinum games that’s broken 1 million.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I don't see why Sony would buy Capcom or Square Enix when they could do what they've done throughout the entirety of the PS4's lifecycle and just fund development for games they want to be Playstation exclusives. Sony may be interested in Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy, but I can't see 2022 Sony wanting much to do with Mega Man or Dragon Quest.

Buying Bungie made sense because they basically work on one IP, Destiny. Sony sees a lot of value in Destiny, so they see a lot of value in buying Bungie.

Moreover, the Bungie purchase was more about improving their own infrastructure for future live service games than Destiny itself.

 

[Ivander]

I don't see why Sony would buy Capcom or Square Enix when they could do what they've done throughout the entirety of the PS4's lifecycle and just fund development for games they want to be Playstation exclusives. Sony may be interested in Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy, but I can't see 2022 Sony wanting much to do with Mega Man or Dragon Quest.

I'm positive Sony would want Dragon Quest for those JP sales. Like Final Fantasy is nowhere near as popular as Dragon Quest in Japan. And if Sony does want to keep getting sales in Japan, ignoring Dragon Quest would be the last thing they want to do.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Astral Chain did above their expectations. Why would they be in financial trouble after that? It’s one of the few Platinum games that’s broken 1 million.

Okay, I looked into it, and I THINK people were referring to more general problems with Platinum. Their games keep getting delayed, often going overbudget, usually underperforming, stuff like that. Which I'm pretty sure have always been problems with Platinum, so... take that as you will.

 

[Idon]

Okay, I looked into it, and I THINK people were referring to more general problems with Platinum. Their games keep getting delayed, often going overbudget, usually underperforming, stuff like that. Which I'm pretty sure have always been problems with Platinum, so... take that as you will.

yeah I love Platinum Games and especially love Astral Chain AND Nier Automata, but despite that gaming performing greater than they expected, that was 3 years ago.
Since then, they've released a very poor port of Wonderful 101 (one they had to use kickstarter to even do), and a little mobile game which hasn't made many waves.

Their plans as of right now include Babylon's Fall, a game which people have largely given up any hope on after the last trailer, Sol Cresta, a shmup which isn't exactly their primary fanbase, and of course Bayonetta 3, which is pretty much their last hope. Also there's Project G.G. but we know next to nothing about it. They also used to work with a Granblue Fantasy tie-in Action RPG, but it seems they've been entirely kicked out of the game's development.

tl;dr bayo or bust

 

[Shroob]

yeah I love Platinum Games and especially love Astral Chain AND Nier Automata, but despite that gaming performing greater than they expected, that was 3 years ago.
Since then, they've released a very poor port of Wonderful 101 (one they had to use kickstarter to even do), and a little mobile game which hasn't made many waves.

Their plans as of right now include Babylon's Fall, a game which people have largely given up any hope on after the last trailer, Sol Cresta, a shmup which isn't exactly their primary fanbase, and of course Bayonetta 3, which is pretty much their last hope. Also there's Project G.G. but we know next to nothing about it. They also used to work with a Granblue Fantasy tie-in Action RPG, but it seems they've been entirely kicked out of the game's development.

tl;dr bayo or bust

Ayup.


Tbh, the game looks better now than the build Platinum threw together so, maybe it was for the best in the end? Especially since it's actually coming out now. From what I've seen, Platinum held that game up considerably.

 

[DarthEnderX]

What I feel is sort of missing in this generation is the Switch's version of a game that graphically jumps out with it's uniqueness and beauty, as games as Donkey Kong Country and it's sequels

I just read on a website that Nintendo is going to buy either Capcom or Sega. Although I do not believe this, if it is true I would say that it will buy Sega, because old games that were released on Sega consoles, have also been released on Nintendo Online from the Wii U to the Nintendo Switch.

**** Sega! Buy Capcooooom!!

If there was anyone I would WANT Nintendo to buy it’s Konami but honestly I would be happy with literally any of the big three buying that **** fiesta of a company.

Agreed. Just...anyone that can do ANYTHING with Contra, Castlevania and Metal Gear.

Konami would be a loaded purchase anyway, because their collective endeavors include a lot of heath clubs in addition to their gambling machines, and video game divisions.

They don't have to buy ALL of Konami. Just the games division.

I don't see why Sony would buy Capcom or Square Enix when they could do what they've done throughout the entirety of the PS4's lifecycle and just fund development for games they want to be Playstation exclusives. Sony may be interested in Street Fighter, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy, but I can't see 2022 Sony wanting much to do with Mega Man or Dragon Quest.

The issue for them there is, if someone ELSE buys them, then Sony loses Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, etc.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Then name one game from the SNES era that looks as good as the DKC trilogy.

 

[Gengar84]

Then name one game from the SNES era that looks as good as the DKC trilogy.

I’m going to agree with you here. The original DKC games looked amazing former the time. DKC 2 has one of the best soundtracks on the console, right up there with Chrono Trigger and Mega Man X in my opinion.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I think the DKC games do still look great (more specifically on a CRT or on Switch handheld oddly enough), but I have to give credit to Yoshi's Island for also having fantastic art design and Mario RPG for still standing out visually to this day (albeit looking best on a CRT that the game was meant to be seen on ).

 

[Diddy Kong]

I’m going to agree with you here. The original DKC games looked amazing former the time. DKC 2 has one of the best soundtracks on the console, right up there with Chrono Trigger and Mega Man X in my opinion.

I'll admit I still have to play Chrono Trigger, am actually sort of surprised that with all the classic SNES RPGs Square is remaking on Switch, Chrono Trigger wasn't yet one of them.

I think the DKC games do still look great (more specifically on a CRT or on Switch handheld oddly enough), but I have to give credit to Yoshi's Island for also having fantastic art design and Mario RPG for still standing out visually to this day (albeit looking best on a CRT that the game was meant to be seen on ).

I agree with those games too, more specifically Yoshi's Island for what it tried to do with it's color book texture style. This game comes closest to what Wind Waker did, before Wind Waker came out. SMRPG is beautiful indeed, but not exactly on the same level as DKC. I do get what you mean though, the game is gorgeous looking. Super Metroid also deserves a mention here.

 

[Sucumbio]

I think he meant there's no chance the switch could render a game as sexy looking as DKC. But I could be wrong....

 

[MBRedboy31]

I think he meant there's no chance the switch could render a game as sexy looking as DKC. But I could be wrong....

I think the argument is that there is no game on the Switch that is drastically better looking than everything else on the Switch. I’m entirely sure how one would set about accomplishing that nowadays, though.

 

[Sucumbio]

This is what I consider the most impressive looking graphics the snes pulled off.

Everytime I play this area I think, gosh this could have been on the PlayStation and still be considered above average even for THAT system.

 

[Geno Boost]

If there was anyone I would WANT Nintendo to buy it’s Konami but honestly I would be happy with literally any of the big three buying that **** fiesta of a company.

If Nintendo buys Konami wouldn’t they end up sensoring silent hill and castlevania? Nintendo doesn’t seems to like games with bloods and horror and religious elements

 

[Diddy Kong]

I think the argument is that there is no game on the Switch that is drastically better looking than everything else on the Switch. I’m entirely sure how one would set about accomplishing that nowadays, though.

This was my argument yes. A game is lacking that really pops out for the Switch, that pushes the hardware like DKC did for the SNES. Even DK64 did it with the expansion pack for the N64. Looking back, DK64 really was in many ways also the best looking game on N64.

So that's sort of what am hoping for for this rumored Donkey Kong game, to do exactly this, to push the limits of the hardware yet again. But I also mentioned Metroid Prime 4 being a prime candidate, or even Golden Sun as GS was also graphically ahead of other games in it's era.

Then again, I will use any excuse to talk about Donkey Kong Country any chance I get. No cap.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Then name one game from the SNES era that looks as good as the DKC trilogy.

I could name countless. But I also think rotoscoped 3D models is a straight up bad art style.

I love Super Mario RPG, but that game looks like crap. Especially compared to everything else Square made on SNES.

 

[Megadoomer]

If Nintendo buys Konami wouldn’t they end up sensoring silent hill and castlevania? Nintendo doesn’t seems to like games with bloods and horror and religious elements

They published Bayonetta 2 and 3 (there are other examples that I could point to as well - they own Eternal Darkness, and they have no problem with games like Binding of Isaac being on their system), so that stopped being an issue a long time ago.

 

[Stratos]

I'm waiting for Pikmin 4 and I wonder if it will be mentioned for the Nintendo Switch or for the next console. In 2021 the mobile game of Pikmin series appeared as we all know, the Pikmin Bloom. Does this mean that Pikmin 4 will be delayed even more?

 

[Diddy Kong]

I legitimately forgot about Pikmin 4. Seems Metroid Prime 4 is also in a similar situation. Something about the number 4 and Nintendo doesn't seem to resonate.

 

[Perkilator]

Segata Sanshiro should’ve been an AT

 

[Speed Weed]

Segata Sanshiro should’ve been an AT

He should've been playable

 

[SPEN18]

In 2021 the mobile game of Pikmin series appeared as we all know, the Pikmin Bloom. Does this mean that Pikmin 4 will be delayed even more?

I doubt the mobile game would have any real effect on a Pikmin 4, if it exists.

I legitimately forgot about Pikmin 4. Seems Metroid Prime 4 is also in a similar situation.

At least with MP4 we got recent confirmation that it is still actively being worked on via the Retro Studios job postings.

 

[Ivander]

If Nintendo buys Konami wouldn’t they end up censoring silent hill and castlevania? Nintendo doesn’t seems to like games with bloods and horror and religious elements

Bayonetta 2 and 3 say hi. I can understand Silent Hill, but Castlevania is quite tame in comparison to Silent Hill.

 

[Tankman from Newgrounds]

He should've been playable

Isn't he a non-video game character?
I prefer Vectorman over him.

 

[HyperSomari64]

Segata Sanshiro should’ve been an AT

And i want the Sega Hard Girls as ATs too.

 

[Stratos]

We have all been waiting for Metroid Prime 4 for 4.5 years, I want to hope that this year we will have news about it.

 

[DarthEnderX]

We have all been waiting for Metroid Prime 4 for 4.5 years, I want to hope that this year we will have news about it.

I got Dread. I don't even care about Prime anymore.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

If Nintendo buys Konami wouldn’t they end up sensoring silent hill and castlevania? Nintendo doesn’t seems to like games with bloods and horror and religious elements

Somebody else went into detail but on a lot but Nintendo also co-owns Fatal Frame. That game is all kinds of ****ed up.

 

[Megadoomer]

Isn't he a non-video game character?
I prefer Vectorman over him.

He seems similar to ROB - part of the marketing for Sega's consoles, and one with playable appearances in the games of their company. (in ROB's case, Mario Kart DS; in Segata's case, Project X Zone 2)

Plus, I think he got his own tie-in video game towards the end of the Sega Saturn's life-span, if I remember one of the commercials correctly.

EDIT: found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDz3WtwskTY&ab_channel=SaturnMemories Won't embed it because the video's nearly an hour long.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

I legitimately forgot about Pikmin 4. Seems Metroid Prime 4 is also in a similar situation. Something about the number 4 and Nintendo doesn't seem to resonate.

This blew my mind because the next Golden Sun also would have been number 4.