Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Wunderwaft]

If a new F-Zero game is coming then for the love of god don't shove in unnecessary gimmicks. Let me race with full speed on my pro controller. **** the joycons and their drifting.

 

[TwiceEXE]

So about that Gamestop "leak"... Occam's Razor prevails again.

 

[MooMew64]

F-Zero Switch is exclusive to Nintendo Labo.

They always said they'd only make a new one if they could find a new gimmick.

 

[SharkLord]

Harsh, but very true. Geno fans tend to be very vocal on wanting him. Honestly, I never got how Geno fans swarmed into smash fanbase so much... was it due to project M putting him in?

I think it was because Geno was already a fairly popular character in the Mario fanbase, and in the early days of the internet Nintendo and their close friends were dominant in speculation. From what I've heard, his support began to go quiet until he got a Mii and Sakurai said he though he'd be cool to be playable. I think the Grinch leak may have stoked the flames further, but I wouldn't know enough to say.
But yeah. If it weren't for the interview, I think Geno would be in the same spot as Krystal and Ashley at the moment; Fairly popular, but generally passed over.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Harsh, but very true. Geno fans tend to be very vocal on wanting him. Honestly, I never got how Geno fans swarmed into smash fanbase so much... was it due to project M putting him in?

It was much longer than that. Back in the early Brawl days, people cared less about whether or not a character felt like they belonged in an elite gaming hall of fame, and Geno just happened to pick up more steam than a lot of other minor characters. It helps that the Rawest Forest animation had recently come out (it was a song, but then got its own music video in June 2007), reminding people of SMRPG.

 

[MooMew64]

I'm hearing some folks are thinking Tanabe's interview today hurts Geno's chances?

Honestly...I'm not quite sure what to think on that one. People here who are familiar with me already know I've never given him great odds, but as for whethe or not this particular interview means bad news or nothing at all...I think I'll need a bit to think about it.

 

[Will]

I hope miyamoto stays far far away from F-Zero

if he's stopping them from being made from the start then we're way too late to hope for that

 

[Calamitas]

This is the same man who said "Tales Of has no legacy" so uh... I wouldn't take him too seriously

I'm sorry, but it's true
Eggman just has way more of an impact than Tales ever had

Ahh you mean Jon "Final Fantasy 7, 9, 10, 10-2 and 12 for Switch" Cartwright?

That's the one! The one who also said this.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I'm hearing some folks are thinking Tanabe's interview today hurts Geno's chances?

Honestly...I'm not quite sure what to think on that one. People here who are familiar with me already know I've never given him great odds, but as for whethe or not this particular interview means bad news or nothing at all...I think I'll need a bit to think about it.

I'd think those purists at Nintendo wouldn't have even let Geno and Waluigi have spirits/a Mii costume/an AT if they truly would be obstacles for their chances at playability.

 

[SargeAbernathy]

So an F-Zero game...

F-Zero .... racing game ... in space ...

...

Could certainly explain that Star Fox Grand Prix rumor. Right?

 

[Aetheri]

Y'know what would be kinda neat, assuming F-Zero Switch is actually real?

They add Samus into the game as a racer and by doing so connect the F-Zero and the Metroid universes together in a weird but somehow pretty awesome twist. (and we get other cameo appearances by Fox and Falco as well as the smaller than bottlecap sized Olimar, and wynaut throw ROB in the mix too)

i still lowkey want samus and capt falcon in mario kart tbh

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

Y'know what would be kinda neat, assuming F-Zero Switch is actually real?

They add Samus into the game as a racer and by doing so connect the F-Zero and the Metroid universes together in a weird but somehow pretty awesome twist. (and we get other cameo appearances by Fox and Falco as well as the smaller than bottlecap sized Olimar, and wynaut throw ROB in the mix too

ROB deserves it after he got kicked out of Mario Kart. Still mad

 

[Guynamednelson]

So an F-Zero game...

F-Zero .... racing game ... in space ...

...

Could certainly explain that Star Fox Grand Prix rumor. Right?

One F-Zero racer is James McCloud, who is a Star Fox tribute. And is not to be confused with Fox's dad.

...did they trick insiders into thinking we'd get a Star Fox racer by showing them gameplay solely featuring a bunch of Little Wyverns?

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Harsh, but very true. Geno fans tend to be very vocal on wanting him. Honestly, I never got how Geno fans swarmed into smash fanbase so much... was it due to project M putting him in?

Sakurai expressing interest in him during Brawl's era and the Mii costume in 4 is pretty much the only reason.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So an F-Zero game...

F-Zero .... racing game ... in space ...

...

Could certainly explain that Star Fox Grand Prix rumor. Right?

You thought it was Star Fox Grand Prix, BUT IT WAS ME, F-ZERO!

 

[Will]

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So about that Gamestop "leak"... Occam's Razor prevails again.

I guess it was fun while it lasted.

 

[Shroob]

I fully expect a new F-Zero game to join Shin Megami Tensei V, Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3 as "Games that are announced to generate hype then never actually released or shown".

Just....something....anything.....

 

[SargeAbernathy]

I remember people thinking the rumored Star Fox Grand Prix turned out to actually be the Starlink game. Which makes no sense, since the rumor was Retro Studios designing it. For a project to switch developers is nuts, and would've been leaked since contracts would've changed.

A simple ASSET and IP change would make more sense.

Heck ... "Star Fox Grand Prix" could've been the damn CODENAME for the project. There's never been a Grand Prix for Starfox .... there's been a Grand Prix for F-Zero.

 

[Calamitas]

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Just....something....anything.....

Honestly wild to think that this game was announced at the big Switch reveal event, and hasn't had any news since then.

 

[Will]

You thought it was Star Fox Grand Prix, BUT IT WAS ME, F-ZERO!

Star Fox Grand Prix was in development hell for so long they started over with F-Zero instead. After more development hell, they finally decided to make it a grandiose Star Fox X F-Zero ambitious crossover destructive racing game with elements from both franchises.

Joycons still required, though.

 

[Wunderwaft]

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Just....something....anything.....

The number of days increased to 1281 btw

 

[Teeb147]

Harsh, but very true. Geno fans tend to be very vocal on wanting him. Honestly, I never got how Geno fans swarmed into smash fanbase so much... was it due to project M putting him in?

I think this is just a case where geno got a lot of legacy Because of fans in smash speculation.
When Sakurai said that he considered putting Geno in, I think that sparked even more traffic for him. Maybe right now people don't remember that too much, but it did raise things for Geno quite a bit and help the train get even bigger

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Heres to tomorrow for the announcement of the rumored direct.

 

[SargeAbernathy]

Heres to tomorrow for the announcement of the rumored direct.

I know Monday is an odd day to have a Direct. Not out of the realm of possibility though.

But what about the announcement? Have they ever done an announcement on a Saturday or Sunday before?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I know Monday is an odd day to have a Direct. Not out of the realm of possibility though.

But what about the announcement? Have they ever done an announcement on a Saturday or Sunday before?

Are people already forgetting the ARMS presentation being announced on a Friday and coming out on a Monday?

 

[Teeb147]

Are people already forgetting the ARMS presentation being announced on a Friday and coming out on a Monday?

It's because paper mario is releasing tomorow. But technically there could still be the announcement.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

I don’t know how Geno fans are still so confidant after Heihachi popping up in Min Min’s DLC wave. That Mii costume proves they’re still releasing Smash 4-era costumes and that they will drop them whenever they please; how that didn’t put the fear of God in each and every one of them is beyond me.

EDIT: Re-reading this, it sounds like I’m being hostile to Geno fans, which was not my intention. Sorry if it comes off that way to anyone.

Honestly, I commend them for being so committed. Before DLC, I like most of us probably did thought Geno had a shot for base game, considering we did get K. Rool and Ridley base game. I do think the possibility of us getting another Square character is pretty likely, considering they are supporting the game with finally giving us spirits, I do think we are going to get another Square character within this pass, and Square has proven that they go for their bigger characters or franchises for paid DLC now whoever that ends up being (Sora, Laura Croft, 2B, Neku) that costume is more than likely going to come back. Either that or Geno ends up being something like they did with the first Pass with Piranah Plant and whoever Square chooses ends up being the paid DLC character for the pass instead. I'm kind of surprised that no one hasn't thought of that as a possibility.

 

[MooMew64]

Normally I would take a jump in pages to mean something happened while I was gone, but something tells me regardless of a Direct announcement tomorrow, the page count is gonna jump up anyways.

...Potentially even more than if a Direct got announced.

 

[Shroob]

Tomorrow will be a very awkward day, because even if there isn't a Direct announced, we technically could get one the following 2 days.


I can't really recall any times that a General Direct was announced on a weekend, but they've done it multiple times for other, small presentations.

 

[MooMew64]

Tomorrow will be a very awkward day, because even if there isn't a Direct announced, we technically could get one the following 2 days.


I can't really recall any times that a General Direct was announced on a weekend, but they've done it multiple times for other, small presentations.

Nate Drake, to my knowledge, never denied it wouldn't be another Mini shadow drop.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Watch to our surprise said direct shadow drops on Monday.

 

[Shroob]

Nate Drake, to my knowledge, never denied it wouldn't be another Mini shadow drop.

If it's a mini, I have to question what they'll show.


After Origami King, their schedule is bone dry.

 

[MooMew64]

If it's a mini, I have to question what they'll show.


After Origami King, their schedule is bone dry.

At least we'll get our Smash announcement.

A Gen 8 Pokemon guessing game.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

A Gen 8 Pokemon guessing game.

Nah make that Fire Emblem.

 

[Lamperouge]

Xenoblade guessing game.

 

[Shroob]

Xenoblade guessing game.

You speak of the... waifu wars?

 

[AceAttorney9000]

"The next Smash character will be... someone from Tetris!"

Can't wait for the debates on whether it's the L block, the J block, or the T block.

 

[MooMew64]

Xenoblade guessing game.

I'm not a Xenoblade fan but uhhh can we get the Welsh cat girl she seems cool.

 

[MBRedboy31]

At least we'll get our Smash announcement.

A Gen 8 Pokemon guessing game.

It won’t be a Gen 8 guessing game, it’ll be a Pokemon Unite guessing game, oooooooobviously

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Xenoblade guessing game.

I know Elma ain't gonna stand a chance, so what's even the point?