Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[volbound1700]

Fun Fact: The greatsword is an actual weapon that was used in history. Not like that mind you, it's basically a polearm, but for cutting, and you'd mow down tons of soldiers in one sweep. It was...not made for 1v1's...or traveling.

Also, I think it was proven that the Buster Sword wouldn't actually be that heavy all things considered. As in, a normal person would be able to pick it up just fine. It's more the fact that it's a greatsword that stops it from being a realistic primary traveling weapon.

Interesting. Spears were pretty effective in combat but had to be used in formations with other people. Ancient battles were all about formations for some of the weapons to work. Spears wouldn't do much in one vs. one (granted they can be used to some effectiveness but a sword would be better).

The most classic spear formations were the Phalanx formations used by the Ancient Greeks and Macedonians. However, armies in the East also used spear formations effectively as well.

Ancient battles were very much about tactics, especially in the Hellenic/Roman Age in the West. (I understand European/Middle Eastern history better than China and Japan).

This is making me want to go play some Rome Total War lol.

My whole point is that people are trashing Steve's design but you have unusual design choices with several characters already in the game.

 

[I.D.]

He had me at "Please no Rex."

"Literally anybody else would have been better" - Him 5 minutes later

Be careful what you wish for

 

[Cutie Gwen]

My whole point is that people are trashing Steve's design but you have unusual design choices with several characters already in the game.

As someone who likes how Steve looks, this is completely missing the point, people aren't complaining that Steve looks unrealistic, but how out of place he looks compared to literally every other fighter. If people cared about realism then they'd complain about every character except maybe Snake

 

[Michael the Spikester]

This Shokio guy sounds like a total pessimistic.

Kinda wonder if he's doing it for attention? How could anyone be salty over Ridley?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

As someone who likes how Steve looks, this is completely missing the point, people aren't complaining that Steve looks unrealistic, but how out of place he looks compared to literally every other fighter. If people cared about realism then they'd complain about every character except maybe Snake

"There is no way a tiny drone like that could lift a full grown man!"

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Found this from the Geno thread.

Confirms Steve releases today.

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1312312991627399169

 

[SKX31]

Puzzles & Dragons would be kinda neat, but I'd have to wonder what they'd pick from the game. Would it be a Shynee and it's recolored blobby pals? Would they take one of the starters from Puzzles & Dragons Z? Would they take the main character from that game and have him summon a bunch of different monsters?

Honestly?

I have no clue who they'd pick (partly since I haven't played that game at all). I know that it's huge in Japan and Nintendo has directly gotten involved with the 3DS port and how Nintendo promoted that port in particular. The starters from 2 maybe? That might be the best fit.

With that kind of money I would just pay him to fix Ganondorf.

On one hand, I kinda agree. The clone-based moveset was a missed opportunity (especially four games in a row). TBF the sword Smashes are a step in the right direction (especially since it spawned "DORIYAH!").

On the other, I love Falcondorf. Especially since his Melee counterpart's been taken to ridicolous heights (because pushing buttons is Serious Business ):

There are a couple moves that are likely to be a part of Ganon's moveset for a while (Down Air's become his iconic Spike - especially since it's the strongest in the game - Forward Air got the nickname "Skull Crusher" etc.) but the specials are what I'd argue could use another look and perhaps some changes there.

(P.S. n0ne's a Falcon main, so it's kinda natural that he'd have a sick Ganondorf.)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

He definitely deserves better than a Mii Costume, but at this point I guess it's better than nothing

we all know nintendo is refusing to touch anything Layton related when it comes to smash. A costume is as good as we can get

 

[Trevenant]

What do people define as a Deluxe Mii Costume? Ones that come with Music? Ones that look more accurate? Both?

I see Vault Boy get called Deluxe but he didn't come with music.

I'd assume it's just one with more effort out into it than the regular mii where it actually completely obscures the mii. That means music is pretty much something that may or may not come with one.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Found this from the Geno thread.

Confirms Steve releases today.

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1312312991627399169

According to Google Translate, there will be an announcement of the release date, but it isn't confirmed to be today.

 

[Garteam]

I honestly think having a high quality model for Steve while keeping his animations the same would be a bad call. You need to have every visual aspect of the character uniform to sell the joke of "lol he's from Minecraft". Giving him a model that matches his animations makes Steve charming and funny, while giving him a model that's on par with everyone else while keeping the stiff and lifeless animations would make Steve strange and uncanny.

 

[zumaddy]

As a Hollow Knight supporter I'd be perfectly fine with a deluxe costume, just give me Vs. Hornet or Vs. Mantis Lords as the music track and we're solid. I actually do like playing Mii Swordie.

What I don't want to see is the MH costumes returning because that's a bad omen for full rep chances

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What Mii costumes are you guys expecting to return?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Found this from the Geno thread.

Confirms Steve releases today.

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1312312991627399169

I can't confirm or deny it as I can't read kanji but Nintendo always announces that ahead of time so people can save replays, pretty sure it's just "tune in for more Steve info!"

 

[Schnee117]

This Shokio guy sounds like a total pessimistic.

Kinda wonder if he's doing it for attention? How could anyone be salty over Ridley?

Man poisoned Ridley discussions in Smash 4 and as of recent he also threw a ***** fit over Sans.
Dunno why we're giving attention to an ableist sack of **** like him tbh.

Found this from the Geno thread.

Confirms Steve releases today.

https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1312312991627399169

Nowhere do I see anything suggesting it's out today, just that they'll announce the release date.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

...he also threw a ***** fit over Sans.

Over Sans.

The Mii Costume.

This guy needs to chill.

...Well he already need to chill, but he needs to chill harder.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Man poisoned Ridley discussions in Smash 4 and as of recent he also threw a ***** fit over Sans.
Dunno why we're giving attention to an ableist sack of **** like him tbh.

Yep, definitely sounds like an attention seeker.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Imagine if we got Minecraft storymode spirits. Did anyone play that game? I thought that was good.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

If we were to get Microsoft Mii elements with Steve's release, getting a Fulgore costume to finally have some Killer Instinct representation in Smash would be a nice touch.

 

[Sari]

Last minute Mii Costume predictions:

• Creeper Hat
• Master Chief
• An indie character
• One of the MIA SSB4 costumes. I'm thinking either Lloyd or Gil.

 

[Wunderwaft]

What Mii costumes are you guys expecting to return?

I posted it in the Steve social thread but I'll post my predictions here again:

• Creeper Hat
• Pillager (Mii Swordfighter)
• Pig Hat
• Lloyd (Returning)
• Gil (Returning)
• Madeline (Celeste premium Mii costume that comes with a song, Mii Brawler)

 

[CureParfait]

What Mii costumes are you guys expecting to return?

Probably Lloyd and Geno

 

[Sari]

Imagine if we got Minecraft storymode spirits. Did anyone play that game? I thought that was good.

If this happens we'll actually have Telltale content in Smash. I find that so cool for some reason.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I'd be surprised at any Square Enix costumes coming back for a non SE fighter so I'll guess at most Rathalos, MH, Lloyd, or Gil for returning Mii elements.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Man poisoned Ridley discussions in Smash 4 and as of recent he also threw a ***** fit over Sans.
Dunno why we're giving attention to an ableist sack of **** like him tbh.



Nowhere do I see anything suggesting it's out today, just that they'll announce the release date.

I think he also ****ted on Etika too a while back, so yeah **** that guy.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

I'd be surprised at any Square Enix costumes coming back for a non SE fighter so I'll guess at most Rathalos, MH, Lloyd, or Gil for returning Mii elements.

If we're getting returning costumes, my bet's on the two Monster Hunter costumes, since both that series and Minecraft have similar "find materials to craft weapons and armor" mechanics.

 

[NintenRob]

I wonder if we'll get any mention or reference to Herobrine

 

[Michael the Spikester]

10 minutes counting!

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm really curious what the music selection is gonna be like

There better be a Shimomura arrangement of the credits theme or something

 

[Deleted member]

HERE IT COMES!!! :D

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

I wonder if we'll get any mention or reference to Herobrine

The patch notes for the new update has one on Steve's moveset. It's just "Removed Herobrine".

 

[Royalty1702]

Expectations for Mii Costumes? I'm going with Master Chief and Hollow Knight

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Expectations for Mii Costumes? I'm going with Master Chief and Hollow Knight

Hollow Knight Deluxe Swordfighter, Master Chief Gunner, and Creeper and Ender Dragon hats.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Feeling a Tracer Mii costume tbh

Idk, just a hunch

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Imagine if we got Minecraft storymode spirits. Did anyone play that game? I thought that was good.

I watched the "A Man Who Hates Bad Writing Plays Minecraft Story Mode" series. It was a hoot.

That's about all I've seen of the game though.

I'm really curious what the music selection is gonna be like

There better be a Shimomura arrangement of the credits theme or something

I just heard Alpha yesterday, and oh my gosh do I want that son in Smash with a passion now.

HERE IT COMES!!! :D

BOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Why is Mighty No. 9 the first thing that came to mind? I even read it in Pyrogen's voice.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Geno, Lloyd or Monster Hunter returns, probably an Ori Mii costume.

 

[Deleted member]

Dunno why we're giving attention to an ableist sack of **** like him tbh.

Ableism is extremely disgusting!!! I don't like this Shokio person.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Five minutes!

 

[cashregister9]

Why is Mighty No. 9 the first thing that came to mind? I even read it in Pyrogen's voice.

CRY LIKE AN ANIME FAN ON PROM NIGHT

 

[MooMew64]

Master Chief costume or Ori costume.

Those are my guesses for the PreMiium. For the rest: Creeper Mask, Diamond Armor, Pillager Costume, and a Villager Costume.

Now to wait.