Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[RouffWestie]

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is now the 3rd time in a row where Nintendo producers asked for the character and not something genuine

I don't because that we were told when the pass was introduced that Nintendo chose the characters. And even if we ended up getting Sakurai's genuine picks instead, I'd prolly be adverse to all of them instead of just like 1 or 2.

 

[SKX31]

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is now the 3rd time in a row where Nintendo producers asked for the character and not something genuine

TBF, Sakurai ****ing loves Minecraft. he showed a lot of his own creations in the message bit too. So there is genuine love coming from him too.

That said, in return Sakurai got the biggest luxury any employee could get: Free room to complain about his bosses on stream. That's the truest sign of being a VIP.

 

[BernkastelWitch]

...Sorta? He's more or less a Microsoft character now. He doesn't give much credence for or against other indies since he's no longer one; We'd need Nintendo to deal with an indie developer for a full celebration. Still, a win's a win, no matter how big or small.

In other news I'm getting kinda paranoid that the Miis are gonna slaughter a bunch of indies, which is kinda sorta really problematic seeing as my most wanted is an indie. Hopefully he'll just stick to Western indies...

If it's gonna be indie mii skins, it's likely gonna be Western Indies or more Microsoft related skins. I doubt it'd be someone like Reimu getting Mii skinned in a Minecraft based video.

Of course Vault Boy was in Min Mins trailer so I guess that doesn't change things.

 

[BZL8]

Tbh, I'd rather have indies Mii costumes than nothing for indies at all.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Which character in Ultimate (Don't say Steve) is the most likely to be addicted to Minecraft?

Got a bunch of them actually.

Here's the full list on Super Mario Wiki.

Lol.


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[Rie Sonomura]

Sudden thought

what if Steve comes with a boss rush mode? What if the Ender Dragon in the base game code really WAS referring to THE Ender Dragon and not Rathalos?

 

[Deleted member]

I am still extremely happy that Steve is in the game.

This image feels unreal, and it is really funny to me. I love it.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Keep in mind with Mii costumes Banjo didn't come with any MS skins. He came with Team Rocket, Goemon, Zero, and Sans. So its not guaranteed we are getting any indie or MS Mii costumes.

 

[Faso115]

I still think they can squeeze one more character this year

 

[RealLuigisWearPink]

Holy **** they actually did it, the madlads

 

[pupNapoleon]

Just for that you're getting Marco AND Kyo.

If I'm six feet tall, that joke was 10' for me.

 

[GillyGrime]

The fact they had to make the building mechanic work for every stage in the game, during a pandemic no less, no wonder the wait for the reveal was so long...

 

[volbound1700]

As stated earlier, I am totally fine and understand the Steve pick but here is the controversy right now that I think people have with the character:

Steve comes from a low-budget, low-quality series that turned into a massive hit. It isn't your traditional platforming gaming series but is rather more like Angry Birds, Fortnite, etc. It represents the divide and changes in the video fame series. You have people that prefer high quality console games that appear on Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony consoles as well as PCs and then you have these games slew of games that started free for play on online websites or as phone apps that have taken off and are now more popular than the console games due to accessibility.

This shows the divide in Smash fanbase. Most fans, especially older generations, want to stick with classic platform characters like Crash, etc. However, those characters are not as well known in the mainstream market or by younger generations. I personally think MasterChief is bigger than Steve but I maybe totally wrong when you look at sells, etc. MasterChief comes from a higher quality franchise with tons of fan support in the West but isn't universally popular like Steve. My generation will likely scoff at the Steve pick but overall it was a good decision. Btw, I loved MissClickGamers response. I watched her, Aaronitmer, and PapaGenos responses. PapaGenos was who I went with live.

 

[Trevenant]

Sudden thought

what if Steve comes with a boss rush mode? What if the Ender Dragon in the base game code really WAS referring to THE Ender Dragon and not Rathalos?

I think it would be kind of hard to misinterpret that on the dataminers part since it would have some data string or something else indicative for them to conclude it's him.

I would love a boss rush mode though. Bosses as a whole were kind of underutilized aside from Classic Mode and WOL and even then there are some obvious missed opportunities with Classic Mode and some outright baffling decisions. Why does Roy fight Master Hand again when Ganon literally has two swords?

 

[I.D.]

I forgot to say this earlier, but zhuge and reddit brush guy can absolutely **** off with this kind of "leak". Seriously what's the point of saying it minutes before the presentation? You got to see the video 15 minutes early, very impressive assholes, enjoy your "clout"

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

Steve is quite the interesting character in Smash. He's not the pick I was expecting, but it'll do!

 

[Cosmic77]

People can say Steve isn't their cup of tea, and that's fine because not everyone will see Steve the same way. It gets a little ridiculous though when people try to rationalize why Steve, "Didn't deserve to get in over (Insert character)."

I get the disappointment, but I think people are letting their own bias influence their feelings too much. The franchise is iconic as heck, the moveset is clearly unique, and obviously a decent number of people legitimately wanted Steve. It's just that people feel the need to invalidate all of those things to convince themselves that, yes, everyone would be way happier with their characters instead.

 

[Deleted member]

The fact they had to make the building mechanic work for every stage in the game, during a pandemic no less, no wonder the wait for the reveal was so long...

I am excited to see how that will work with Palutena's Temple, the Great Cave Offensive, and Hyrule Temple.

 

[Megadoomer]

I won't be able to see Saturday's presentation live, but here's hoping that the Mii costumes are relatively painless (a few minor Nintendo characters, maybe a premium Ori costume or some Rare-associated ones), rather than some kind of gut punch like the K. Rool costume in Smash 4 or the Heihachi costume in Ultimate

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Everybody wanted a indie character here he is!

Can we really still consider Minecraft "indie" in this day and age?

 

[GillyGrime]

Genuinely this Smash character must be the most complex to implement in Smash history. They would've basically had to rewrite a massive amount of the game's coding to make it work. Sakurai is a beast.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What time is the Saturday presentation EST?

 

[AreJay25]

I won't be able to see Saturday's presentation live, but here's hoping that the Mii costumes are relatively painless (a few minor Nintendo characters, maybe a premium Ori costume or some Rare-associated ones), rather than some kind of gut punch like the K. Rool costume in Smash 4 or the Heihachi costume in Ultimate

Watch us get a Master Chief costume.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Anyway I had a feeling that Sakurai and his team would have lots of trouble trying to get Steve to work. I also knew he would look out of place and that he'd look like a cardboard box. He even looks out of place on the mural like they photo shopped him onto it. It's actually pretty hilarious.

So there you go. Have some negativity. Free of charge. No take backs. Let it stain your "pure and clean" mind like a turd that flew right into your open cranium and let it slump down onto your membrane like a couch potato.

I just wasted five minutes for the banner to scroll on the website, and missed Steve.

 

[TheCJBrine]

hello world

 

[Animegamingnerd]

What time is the Saturday presentation EST?

10:30AM

Watch us get a Master Chief costume.

Watch us get the Geno costume back completely unaltered.

 

[Schnee117]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Time to go looking for the Smash Bros seed

 

[Rie Sonomura]

My costume predictions:

• Master Chief (regular)
• Gil from Tower of Druaga (regular)
• Monster Hunter (regular, not the Rathalos armor)
• Kyoko from River City Girls (regular)
• Ori (PreMiium, comes with Light of Nibel)

and if there’s a sixth costume:

• Hollow Knight (PreMiium with Sealed Vessel remix, soft confirming the LoL rep happening later)

yeah. TWO PreMiiums. Go big or go home

 

[pupNapoleon]

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is now the 3rd time in a row where Nintendo producers asked for the character and not something genuine

...what does this mean?

 

[Deleted member]

hello world

Hello, CJBrine. I am feeling the same exact way, and I love your energy.

I am so happy!!!

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is now the 3rd time in a row where Nintendo producers asked for the character and not something genuine

Sakurai has been open about it the fighters pass characters being chosen by Nintendo ever since FP1 was announced.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

I feel that Geno's mii outfit will return or he'll be promoted to the deluxe.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Lara Croft has the issue of her franchise not being huge in Japan. Now, its not that Tomb Raider doesn't do decent in Japan (Rise of the Tomb Raider sold like 21,000 copies in its first couple of weeks in Japan) but its not huge in Japan. Though, maybe Lara Croft could be a reverse-Hero situation. Where Nintendo and Square attempt to put more attention on the Tomb Raider IP in Japan. Idk.

Don't forget the sales of the movies. My quick internet scan showed a million made in Japan, which seems pretty solid. There are 3 movies, going on 4, which makes the media presence even stronger.

 

[BlondeLombax]

Here's a great reaction.

 

[P.Kat]

Okay, but what the hell is Daisy and what does it has to with Shante, especially with the moral art?
Could she easily go anywhere else?

The Daisy theory refer to Daisy's pose on the mural of characters. Basically her pose (direction of her eyes, face, and body) looks like she's interacting with a character who some think could most likely be Shantae.

 

[pupNapoleon]

That said, in return Sakurai got the biggest luxury any employee could get: Free room to complain about his bosses on stream. That's the truest sign of being a VIP.

I havnt seen yet if Japan got the same announcement. Honestly, I took his entire direct complaining about "Nintendo" wanting too much to be a substitute for "You Americans" want too much, it takes more than you realize. Of course Nintendo knows what goes into development, they finance it.

 

[Deleted member]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Time to go looking for the Smash Bros seed

Spoiler: YouTube Videos

I remember when they found the Minecraft title seed.

Also this is neat.

 

[7NATOR]

I think Steve Proves that Miiverse was onto Something. I mean Considering that Sakurai actually used Miiverse, it's likely he took notice of the huge amount of Steve Fan Support and Such.

 

[Nemuresu]

Let's just remember, there's six costumes from last game still missing, and they only have five chances for them to pop up. As far as bets go, I believe the Monster Hunter armours will be revealed this Monday.

 

[Polan]

gotta say i love that steve's render is him just standing there

everyone else doing cool poses and this man is just standing.