Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[MooMew64]

wow a sega character and 6 sega mii costumes to celebrate their 60th?

thank you sakurai!

This is how Arle wins.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

 

[zeldasmash]

I really wish I could play Final Fantasy XIV but not only do I not have PS+, I'm not a fan of MMO's...

 

[CureParfait]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

I think Waluigi or Isaac

 

[Megadoomer]

wow a sega character and 6 sega mii costumes to celebrate their 60th?

thank you sakurai!

I feel like this is the only acceptable option:

(that's not true - I'm sure there are tons of great Sega characters, with Kiryu coming to mind - but Segata Sanshiro would be great)

 

[Idon]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

It SHOULD be Lyn Fire Emblem.

 

[SharkLord]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

I would say Isaac or Waluigi, but some people think they're already deconfirmed thanks to the Assist Trophies, so they might not be seen as illegible for being Geno's successor (Unless, of course, Geno's Mii is unveiled with a former AT).

Isaac's got one of the largest support threads here after Geno, but from my experience, they're pretty chill. Mostly expressing optimism towards the potential Golden Sun remake, which is heavily strengthened by the trademark that was turned down twice before it was finally approved. If Isaac's hype train starts building steam again, I wonder if we'll become a bit more rowdy as people start flocking to his thread.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I really wish I could play Final Fantasy XIV but not only do I not have PS+, I'm not a fan of MMO's...

It’s also on PC and Mac

 

[SharkLord]

It SHOULD be Lyn Fire Emblem.
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In the ideal roster, we sacrificed half the FE representation (Preferably ) for Lyn. Then we'd have reps for the five best-received FE games (Mystery of the Emblem, Blazing Blade, Path of Radiance, Awakening, and Three Houses), each with their own unique fighting styles.

 

[Ridrool64]

Friggin, the more I think about it the more I think Crewmate/Impostor would be a legit good choice for Smash.

Like, especially the Impostor. The ability to sabotage and make things easier for yourself in particular draws me to this. Turning off the lights everywhere except near you? Disabling ledges for other players? Placing a vent on the ground and then teleporting to it with your up special? A Final Smash where you cause the reactor on the Skeld to explode?

All of these sound really cool. Now there's just two problems; one, what do you do for Spirits, and two, what do you do for Music?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Alright, it's time to place your bets! Pick up to 3 of the picks that you think are most likely, and predict their Mii Costumes. Example:
Rex & Pyra/Mythra:

1. Zeke Wig & Zeke Outfit (Swordfighter)
2. Torra Hat (All)
3. Morag's Hat & Morag's Outfit (Swordfighter)
4. Lora Wig & Lora Outfit (Brawler)
5. Lloyd Wig & Lloyd Outfit (Swordfighter)
6. Gil's Helmet & Gil's Armour (Swordfighter)

 

[N3ON]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

Yeah it'd probably be Isaac and Waluigi - though Waluigi has the benefit of also being favoured among the more casual.

So in terms of a request that's mostly contained to within the online fanbase, like those previous, it'd be Isaac.

And of course, both are currently suffering from people discounting their popularity due to it being temporarily culled by their AT roles.

I would say Isaac or Waluigi, but some people think they're already deconfirmed thanks to the Assist Trophies, so they might not be seen as illegible for being Geno's successor (Unless, of course, Geno's Mii is unveiled with a former AT).

Isaac's got one of the largest support threads here after Geno, but from my experience, they're pretty chill. Mostly expressing optimism towards the potential Golden Sun remake, which is heavily strengthened by the trademark that was turned down twice before it was finally approved. If Isaac's hype train starts building steam again, I wonder if we'll become a but more rowdy as people start flocking to his thread.

No fanbase is best represented by what happens after they're widely believed to be out of the running.

It's the same mistake as gauging demand post-deconfirmation, when people conclude that no AT characters are "really that popular". Well yeah, they've all been made ATs and their fanbases have subdued because of it.

 

[cashregister9]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

Crash

 

[Dark Bagel]

You say that...

You've never seen the horrors of this:

Same energy

 

[Guynamednelson]

The Tower of Druaga costume was pretty random to begin with.

Not if you're Japanese. It was much more beloved over there than in the West due to how, in the West, the amount of socialization required to beat it was foreign outside of when fighting games were big and people would talk about special move inputs and Sheng Longs and Ermacs and such.

 

[N3ON]

Crash

Crash really didn't get that notable of demand until post-ballot, when his series starting picking up again.

So in the grand scheme of things, it's not that longstanding.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

Isaac with out a doubt. No one was talking about Dante, Master Chief, Doom Slayer, Crash etc until the last year and a half or so.

 

[Idon]

No fanbase is best represented by what happens after they're widely believed to be out of the running.

It's the same mistake as gauging demand post-deconfirmation, when people conclude that no AT characters are "really that popular". Well yeah, they've all been made ATs and their fanbases have subdued because of it.

Lyn community the INSTANT they start showing Assist Trophies at E3 2018:

 

[SharkLord]

Yeah it'd probably be Isaac and Waluigi - though Waluigi has the benefit of also being favoured among the more casual.

So in terms of a request that's mostly contained to within the online fanbase, like those previous, it'd be Isaac.

And of course, both are currently suffering from people discounting their popularity due to it being temporarily culled by their AT roles.


No fanbase is best represented by what happens after they're widely believed to be out of the running.

It's the same mistake as gauging demand post-deconfirmation, when people conclude that no AT characters are "really that popular". Well yeah, they've all been made ATs and their fanbases have subdued because of it.

Yeah, Isaac is obviously more popular than he appears at the moment. I'm just not sure if he'd have as many people rallying behind him in a post-Geno world because I'm not sure how many people think he'd be possible, and therefore, worth rallying behind.

But eh. I don't think we'll get another character in the same vein as Geno; Not in terms of infamy and thread-domination, at least.

 

[cashregister9]

Crash really didn't get that notable of demand until post-ballot, when his series starting picking up again.

So in the grand scheme of things, it's not that longstanding.

Yeah, The more I think about Crash was more popular outside of the internet

If I had to pick a longstanding one from the internet... Probably Waluigi

Personally I haven't heard much Isaac support outside of SB at least

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

Sora.

 

[N3ON]

Yeah, Isaac is obviously more popular than he appears at the moment. I'm just not sure if he'd have as many people rallying behind him in a post-Geno world because I'm not sure how many people think he'd be possible, and therefore, worth rallying behind.

But eh. I don't think we'll get another character in the same vein as Geno; Not in terms of infamy and thread-domination, at least.

It depends how post in a post-Geno world.

If GS does get revived, or if another AT get upgraded, it'll happen this game. If neither of those things comes to fruition, it'll happen next.

Yeah, The more I think about Crash was more popular outside of the internet

If I had to pick a longstanding one from the internet... Probably Waluigi

Personally I haven't heard much Isaac support outside of SB at least

Depends when you were looking. He was quite popular before he was AT'd.

 

[Shroob]

If Geno does get in, I feel like the answer is obvious, if Assist promotions are on the table:


For Smash fans: Isaac

For the general folk: Waluigi


If Assist Promotions are not on the table, then that question gets more difficult to answer.

 

[cashregister9]

Depends when you were looking. He was quite popular before he was AT'd.

Now that you mention it I do remember quite a bit of Isaac talk in the Sm4sh days

 

[Megadoomer]

Alright, it's time to place your bets! Pick up to 3 of the picks that you think are most likely, and predict their Mii Costumes. Example:
Rex & Pyra/Mythra:

1. Zeke Wig & Zeke Outfit (Swordfighter)
2. Torra Hat (All)
3. Morag's Hat & Morag's Outfit (Swordfighter)
4. Lora Wig & Lora Outfit (Brawler)
5. Lloyd Wig & Lloyd Outfit (Swordfighter)
6. Gil's Helmet & Gil's Armour (Swordfighter)

Ryu Hayabusa

1. Kasumi (Dead or Alive) (likely her DOA6 costume) (brawler)
2. Linkle (Hyrule Warriors) (gunner? maybe brawler would work better)
3. Volga (Hyrule Warriors) (brawler)
4. William (Nioh) (swordfighter)
5. Rowan (Fire Emblem Warriors) (swordfighter)
6. Lianna (Fire Emblem Warriors) (swordfighter)

Geno

1. Chocobo (Final Fantasy) (hat)
2. Mallow (hat)
3. Emil (Nier) (swordfighter - uses a staff like Viridi) (maybe he comes with a song from Nier Automata, like this one)
4. Fawful (gunner)
5. Tifa (brawler)
6. Sephiroth (with One Winged Angel) (swordfighter)

Master Chief

1. the Arbiter (swordfighter)
2. Rash (Battletoads) (brawler)
3. Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark) (gunner)
4. Mumbo Jumbo (swordfighter)
5. Fulgore (Killer Instinct) (brawler)
6. Ori (with Restoring the Light, Facing the Dark) (swordfighter)

I'm leaving out Double Fine and Bethesda characters from Master Chief's Mii costumes, since I don't know when those deals, or a hypothetical Smash deal, would have went through. I felt bad about making Conker and 2B as Mii costumes, so I left them out.

I'm not overly familiar with Koei-Tecmo's line-up, and I feel like I should have tried to balance out the costumes more (I feel like I barely included any brawlers, and included a bunch of swordfighters).

 

[Strong-Arm]

isaac is an assist trophy and so is waluigi

theyre not getting in and i think springman not being chosen but min min instead just cements that so i think being super vocal about them wont do any good for ultimate

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So, if Geno were to be included, what would be the next long standing request the Smash fanbase really behind?

I'm gonna say Isaac.

Sora

 

[Guynamednelson]

isaac is an assist trophy and so is waluigi

theyre not getting in and i think springman not being chosen but min min instead just cements that so i think being super vocal about them wont do any good for ultimate

Did you forget WHY EXACTLY Min Min was chosen? Never mind, this is the Smash community, I know the answer already.

 

[Strong-Arm]

Did you forget WHY EXACTLY Min Min was chosen? Never mind, this is the Smash community, I know the answer already.

its over. Sometimes we just gotta move on

i wanted ashley extremely badly but she ended up AT'd

Sometimes we gotta let go even if its hard

 

[Shroob]

Did you forget WHY EXACTLY Min Min was chosen? Never mind, this is the Smash community, I know the answer already.

While true, the more characters we go, the less and less likely it's going to seem.

If we're on like, speculation for FP10 sometime next year, how confident will people still be that "It could happen" if the last 4 weren't?

 

[Guynamednelson]

its over. Sometimes we just gotta move on

i wanted ashley extremely badly but she ended up AT'd

Sometimes we gotta let go even if its hard

Those that didn't move on were the ones that actually got rewarded with their characters. Even if they weren't DLC.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Did you forget WHY EXACTLY Min Min was chosen? Never mind, this is the Smash community, I know the answer already.

It had nothing to do with Spring Man's Assist Trophy status though. Since it was never mentioned, it's reasonable to assume the policies they have set about it are still in place.

Those that didn't move on were the ones that actually got rewarded with their characters. Even if they weren't DLC.

Of course you can still want them. You just have to know that you won't get them in this game.

 

[Guynamednelson]

You just have to know that you won't get them in this game.

You know who else didn't think they would get a character in this game? ARMS fans. This is no different regardless of how spoiled Smash fans are by the lack of AT promotions.

 

[Shroob]

If nothing else, I feel incredibly confident that assist upgrades are not happening this game.


Unless the heavens open up for Waluigi of all characters, if I were a betting man, I'd put all my Vegas money on "No".

 

[Guynamednelson]

If nothing else, I feel incredibly confident that assist upgrades are not happening this game.


Unless the heavens open up for Waluigi of all characters, if I were a betting man, I'd put all my Vegas money on "No".

Well, Smash fans can never guess things correctly, so...

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

You know who else didn't think they would get a character in this game? ARMS fans. This is no different regardless of how spoiled Smash fans are by the lack of AT promotions.

Min Min is a very special case, and ARMS fans can thank their lucky stars for that. Even so, she wasn't an Assist Trophy, she was unlikely for other reasons. If you wanted Spring Man specifically, then sorry, you were always out of luck. The same applies to all Assist Trophy characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Smash fans claiming CP7's reveal trailer confirms that their most wanted is getting in for CP8:

 

[Shroob]

Well, Smash fans can never guess things correctly, so...

We can hope, but at the moment, there's zero precedence for it.

Could we get a MinMin situation? Sure, I accept that.



But as it stands, I'm not counting on it, and I seriously doubt our next couple reveals could be one either.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I don't think we are getting a Min Min situation again. My gut is telling me that.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Min Min is a very special case, and ARMS fans can thank their lucky stars for that. Even so, she wasn't an Assist Trophy, she was unlikely for other reasons. If you wanted Spring Man specifically, then sorry, you were always out of luck. The same applies to all Assist Trophy characters.

You and Perkilator are seriously asking to get blown away by a challenger pack that's an upgraded assist.