Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[I.D.]

To be fair, it's not the first time pushdustin is pessimistic only to be proven wrong right afterwards

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For reference, Terry's presentation was announced 2 days later

 

[Shroob]

To be fair, it's not the first time pushdustin is pessimistic only to be proven wrong right afterwards

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I feel like he's just covering his bases. I still think not this week but next is the week to pin, if only due to it lining up with how the Amiibos are dropping worldwide.


I could see the first full week of October as well at the latest, but that's only if Pokemon news is dropped next week as Nintendo's seemingly one big news drop per week deal.


This week though, if Monday and Tuesday really are exempt from news due to Holidays, and then there's already confirmed **** on Thursday and Saturday, not expecting anything Smash related.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

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It could have been called "No comment" because of NMH3 amiibo.

 

[N3ON]

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It could have been called "No comment" because of NMH3 amiibo.

I mean, the interview is in English, we don't need PushDustin's help on this one.

The amiibo part is a statement. The question pertains to Smash.

 

[PSIGuy]

What exactly does Suda saying no comment about the amiibo... change, exactly?

edit: Specifically, in reference to pushdustin's tweet saying he might be talking about the amiibo and not the Smash inclusion.

 

[DarthEnderX]

You ain't even using your fists!

I saw my advantage and I took it.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

What exactly does Suda saying no comment about the amiibo... change, exactly?

He's normally pretty honest with us with his feelings about Travis in Smash but this time he isn't saying anything at all. This makes people think that Goichi Suda finally got Travis in Smash bros in some form, Whether this means a character or a mii costume is up for debate but I feel like his wording hints towards Travis being a fighter, hence the "BIG no comment"

 

[PSIGuy]

He's normally pretty honest with us with his feelings about Travis in Smash but this time he isn't saying anything at all. This makes people think that Goichi Suda finally got Travis in Smash bros in some form, Whether this means a character or a mii costume is up for debate but I feel like his wording hints towards Travis being a fighter, hence the "BIG no comment"

Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I mean when Pushdustin says "He might mean the amiibo is no comment and not the Smash inclusion", that doesn't really change what "no comment" means from Suda. Seems like a pointless thing to point out.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

He's normally pretty honest with us with his feelings about Travis in Smash but this time he isn't saying anything at all. This makes people think that Goichi Suda finally got Travis in Smash bros in some form, Whether this means a character or a mii costume is up for debate but I feel like his wording hints towards Travis being a fighter, hence the "BIG no comment"

Yup, Suda for years has always been honest about wanting Travis to be in Smash going all the ways back to 2009

Suda 51 Wants No More Heroes' Travis in Smash Bros.

In a bout of wishful thinking, No More Heroes designer Goicha Suda has expressed his desire to see his game's star, Travis Touchdown, appear in Super Smash Bros.

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Even as recent 2017

Suda51 Would Still Like To See Travis In Super Smash Bros

One of the surprise announcements last week was the fact that we are getting a brand new No More Heroes game for the Nintendo Switch. Online gaming publication Destructoid managed to catch up with…

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And 2018 where he asked the media to be on his side and beg Nintendo for it to happen.

Suda51 Comments on Possibility of Seeing Travis Touchdown in Upcoming Super Smash Bros. for Switch

During PAX East, we caught up with Suda51 to see if he'd want the titular character from Travis Strikes Again appear in the upcoming Super Smash Bros..

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With the sudden tone change to a no comment after over a decade of saying he wants it to happen, tells me there have been talks at least for some kind of No More Heroes content in Smash.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I mean when Pushdustin says "He might mean the amiibo is no comment and not the Smash inclusion", that doesn't really change what "no comment" means from Suda. Seems like a pointless thing to point out.

Ah I see. My bad. Yeah it's odd, the question was whether he wanted to see Travis in fighter pass 2. Probably misread the quote on his part.

 

[Cosmic77]

As far as I'm aware, this is the first time Suda was asked a question in an interview that essentially translates to, "Is Travis in Smash?" Every other time Smash has been mentioned is when he brought it up himself or when he was asked if he would like to see Travis in Smash.

This is less of an open-ended question, so I'm hesitant to say his lack of an enthusiastic and lengthy response means anything specific. It's a simple nine-word sentence that could be interpreted a number of different ways, including him genuinely not wanting to say anything that would make fans think Travis is less likely or more likely.

 

[Shroob]

As far as I'm aware, this is the first time Suda was asked a question in an interview that essentially translates to, "Is Travis in Smash?" Every other time Smash has been mentioned is when he brought it up himself or when he was asked if he would like to see Travis in Smash.

This is less of an open-ended question, so I'm hesitant to say his lack of an enthusiastic and lengthy response means anything specific. It's a simple nine-word sentence that could be interpreted a number of different ways, including him genuinely not wanting to say anything that would make fans think Travis is less likely or more likely.

I'm remaining neutral on the Travis topic, but him wanting fans to remain neutral has never stopped him from going on about how much he wants Travis in Smash, which to anyone would tell them that he's not in Smash, so he's not at all shy about this kinda stuff in the slightest.


So using this information, it is a little sus when the dude's known for begging for Travis to be playable usually.

 

[3BitSaurus]

This week though, if Monday and Tuesday really are exempt from news due to Holidays, and then there's already confirmed **** on Thursday and Saturday, not expecting anything Smash related.

Wait, what's on Thursday? I know Saturday is the AoC stuff (which shouldn't interfere with a Smash reveal, seeing as KT will be the one to deliver those news).

 

[I.D.]

Wait, what's on Thursday? I know Saturday is the AoC stuff (which shouldn't interfere with a Smash reveal, seeing as KT will be the one to deliver those news).

I think he's talking about some Dragalia Lost news... I can't see Nintendo caring enough that they would consider it big enough news to displace Smash or Pokemon

 

[Cutie Gwen]

As far as I'm aware, this is the first time Suda was asked a question in an interview that essentially translates to, "Is Travis in Smash?" Every other time Smash has been mentioned is when he brought it up himself or when he was asked if he would like to see Travis in Smash.

This is less of an open-ended question, so I'm hesitant to say his lack of an enthusiastic and lengthy response means anything specific. It's a simple nine-word sentence that could be interpreted a number of different ways, including him genuinely not wanting to say anything that would make fans think Travis is less likely or more likely.

As someone who thinks the statement means nothing as I remember Travis saying he thinks he keeps jinxing it by saying it in I believe a GameXplain interview, what purpose does it have to be vague? I highly doubt Suda cares about NMH fans being disappointed about Travis not making the cut for Smash because we're getting a new game that we've been waiting an entire decade for. Saying something that's a nonanswer wouldn't prevent expectations being raised or lowered, it's literally done the opposite effect and Suda's smart enough to know that, not to mention there's no bad outcome for lowering expectations in that regard. If anything, Suda said this to get people talking about Travis during a dry period of news as people are still very much left in the dark for NMHIII. There's also nothing that'd legally prevent him from saying Travis has no involvement in Smash

 

[Shroob]

I think he's talking about some Dragalia Lost news... I can't see Nintendo caring enough that they would consider it big enough news to displace Smash or Pokemon

You're right


But at the same time I'm not about to forget how we had BIG NEWS coming... and it was a ****ing Bakugan Direct either.

 

[3BitSaurus]

You're right


But at the same time I'm not about to forget how we had BIG NEWS coming... and it was a ****ing Bakugan Direct either.

Fair enough, but has the Dragalia team ever had an announcement (post launch, at least) that actively took away the spot from another Nintendo game?

I mean, I didn't even know about their non-FE crossovers until long after.

So if anything, they should do the announcement on their own, like KT with AoC. I think there's basically no overlap between these two and Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, I am going to say this.

FP7 will most likely either be Travis Touchdown or Monster Hunter.

If I win, what happens?

 

[Lamperouge]

Okay, I am going to say this.

FP7 will most likely either be Travis Touchdown or Monster Hunter.

If I win, what happens?

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[Super Devon]

You're right


But at the same time I'm not about to forget how we had BIG NEWS coming... and it was a ****ing Bakugan Direct either.

I don’t think that was ever said to be “Big news”, or at least not from Nintendo. It’s just that people took what Nintendo said to be more of a big deal than it really was despite Nintendo literally saying that it was not from one of their IP’s
I’d say more, but it’s a bit off topic to the thread

EDIT: I should also mention that speculation is almost never correct no matter how many theories for the DLC there are, I’m pretty sure that 4 of the 5 fighters () of the first fighters pass weren’t talked about nearly as much before their reveals and surpassed expectations and I’m glad, so let’s keep it that way for these reveals. I want to be surprised,whether it be exciting or disappointment, I don’t want this pass to get everyone that people were predicting, it wouldn’t be as hype for me, so yeah.

 

[Will]

y'all arguing the psychology of suda51, meanwhile minecraft steve is about to sneak into smash bros undetected

 

[Deleted member]

y'all arguing the psychology of suda51, meanwhile minecraft steve is about to sneak into smash bros undetected

Look, Steve would be nice, but I don't see how he is likely as of now.

 

[Will]

Look, Steve would be nice, but I don't see how he is likely as of now.

Ain't that the point that you don't "see" it? You all got tunnel vision and forgetting some sleepers that'll catch you off guard.

 

[Dinoman96]

EDIT: I should also mention that speculation is almost never correct no matter how many theories for the DLC there are, I’m pretty sure that 4 of the 5 fighters () of the first fighters pass weren’t talked about nearly as much before their reveals and surpassed expectations and I’m glad, so let’s keep it that way for these reveals. I want to be surprised,whether it be exciting or disappointment, I don’t want this pass to get everyone that people were predicting, it wouldn’t be as hype for me, so yeah.

Plenty of people were talking about Dragon Quest/Hero though, thanks to the "Brave" datamine leak and Tansut's info on ResetERA.

Joker and Terry definitely blindsided people, yeah. I think Byleth was kinda brought up as a potential promotional Nintendo rep, or like a worst case scenario kind of thing.

 

[osby]

Look, Steve would be nice, but I don't see how he is likely as of now.

That's why you'll...

...never see it coming.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Look, Steve would be nice, but I don't see how he is likely as of now.

"He's too big!" -

"Too irrelevant!" -

"Too impossible! Too third-party!" -

Do I have to say more?

 

[Will]

"He's too big!" -

"Too irrelevant!" -

"Too impossible! Too third-party!" -

Do I have to say more?

i think shiny meant in an arbitrary "microsoft already got 1 not fair they get another" type beat.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

i think shiny meant in an arbitrary "microsoft already got 1 not fair they get another" type beat.

But given their good relationship with Nintendo, them double-dibbing ain't out of the possibility as a means and sign of their friendship especially given the cross-promotion and Minecraft being the reason for said relationship.

 

[Deleted member]

That's why you'll...

...never see it coming.

I mean, I really hope Steve happens, but honestly, I see him as quite unlikely.

I will never see it coming if he is in, that is for sure.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Bored so I'm posting one of these, rate my taste I guess

this makes up for Sora

 

[Deleted member]

i think shiny meant in an arbitrary "microsoft already got 1 not fair they get another" type beat.

That, and there are so many contenders.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

**** surprises all my homies haye surprises in this house we like having a basic idea of what we're getting. I'm honestly at a point where a crappy character would be somewhat exciting as it'd tell me I don't need to buy the pass

 

[Dinoman96]

Yeah I still don't think they really care that much about "company reps" or whatever.

Like Banjo getting in really wasn't a case of "Microsoft and Nintendo are friends now, so they should get a character in Smash", it was more "Microsoft and Nintendo are friends now, ergo the one big obstacle to Banjo getting into Smash has been bulldozed". I feel like if Nintendo/Sakurai want Steve in, it'd first and foremost be because of Minecraft being a huge worldwide phenomenon, not because they want to give Microsoft another character.

 

[Will]

That, and there are so many contenders.

that goes for literally everyone else though

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

I think if any third party company from the first pass double dips it will most likely be SEGA or Square, but we'll see.

 

[Deleted member]

that goes for literally everyone else though

I know.

Also consider the fact that kind of kills Steve's chances.

 

[Wunderwaft]

I know.

Also consider the fact that kind of kills Steve's chances.

How does a character from the first pass kill the chances of a character from the second pass?

 

[Will]

Also consider the fact that kind of kills Steve's chances.

I've considered and I think that's a dumb claim.

 

[Deleted member]

How does a character from the first pass kill the chances of a character from the second pass?

Hmm, that might have not been the best claim, but wasn't it difficult for Sakurai to communicate with Microsoft? Plus, Steve would be more expensive to obtain than Banjo-Kazooie I believe.

I've considered and I think that's a dumb claim.

How so?

 

[Wunderwaft]

Doomguy is now a Microsoft rep

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