Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Deleted member]

People are sleeping on the Terrarian.
Because the have basically no chance, lol.

basically me but with Young Wizard and the various card game characters I shill on rare occasion

I mean, it would be kickass to see.. say a trailer where the Belmonts enters Castle Darkmoor and has to face Shane Von Shane while the Wizard valiantly steps in to help... but realistically? Nah, not betting on it.

Athough Shane Von Shane wouldn’t be a bad choice either.. I mean just look at this dude

 

[I.D.]

Can someone get me the source?

Despite what he said, I have a hard time believing that Nintendo, who is always four and a half steps ahead of what they actually announce, would record a video talking about there being additional fighters so close to the decision.

Now, granted, that doesn't mean they decided on another actual fighter pass until around then, but I still find it tough to reconcile the intention for a second pass not predating E3 2019 (which is when it'd have to be) by quite a while.

Where I'll concede is by E3 2019, maybe they hadn't finalized every choice, perhaps they hadn't added the sixth, "extra" character, but I can't get behind the idea that that's when the plan for a second pass came together. If that's what Imran is claiming, despite him being generally credible, I don't believe him.

I think he was just theorizing and people simply ran away with it, like that thing he said about Sora. I also think it's suspect that it took them that long to decide on a second season when most of the sales for season 1 happened shortly after Ultimate's release.

 

[Powerman293]

That honestly sounds a bit too pessimistic. Especially given that there's this:


Yes, it was rather small in terms of player size, but there are still (masked) locals taking place here and there. Recent highlight vids from YEET Smash and Dragon Smash feature clips from those masked offline tournaments (mostly locals). This video for example which features a clip from a recent French local.

That said, the competitive scene's also going to be extra cautious not just due to the pandemic, but also since the allegations have made the remaining community leaders adamant about needed changes. The Smash Community Panel recently had a 3 hour Twitch stream where they discussed how to move forward. And honestly, those changes are neccessary, and it's a good thing that the remaining community leaders have pretty much rallied around this (commentators like Coney and TKBreezy for example).

How else can I feel when r/smashbros shouts at anyone even thinking about having locals and accuses fellow players of "wanting others to die"? That kind of rhetoric suggests that the community needs to uncontort itself from this position, which will take longer to go away than the disease.

 

[Shroob]

How else can I feel when r/smashbros shouts at anyone even thinking about having locals and accuses fellow players of "wanting others to die"? That kind of rhetoric suggests that the community needs to uncontort itself from this position, which will take longer to go away than the disease.

It's reddit.


I know it's a bit of a punchline, but, it's reddit.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Can someone get me the source?

Despite what he said, I have a hard time believing that Nintendo, who is always four and a half steps ahead of what they actually announce, would record a video talking about there being additional fighters so close to the decision.

Now, granted, that doesn't mean they decided on another actual fighter pass until around then, but I still find it tough to reconcile the intention for a second pass not predating E3 2019 (which is when it'd have to be) by quite a while.

Where I'll concede is by E3 2019, maybe they hadn't finalized every choice, perhaps they hadn't added the sixth, "extra" character, but I can't get behind the idea that that's when the plan for a second pass came together. If that's what Imran is claiming, despite him being generally credible, I don't believe him.

I’m honestly not even sure if he said that or not that’s just what I heard. So.

 

[YeppersPeppers]

Can someone get me the source?

Despite what he said, I have a hard time believing that Nintendo, who is always four and a half steps ahead of what they actually announce, would record a video talking about there being additional fighters so close to the decision.

Now, granted, that doesn't mean they decided on another actual fighter pass until around then, but I still find it tough to reconcile the intention for a second pass not predating E3 2019 (which is when it'd have to be) by quite a while.

Where I'll concede is by E3 2019, maybe they hadn't finalized every choice, perhaps they hadn't added the sixth, "extra" character, but I can't get behind the idea that that's when the plan for a second pass came together. If that's what Imran is claiming, despite him being generally credible, I don't believe him.

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I linked the time to start, but just in case jump to about 16:50. He's a little unsure when exactly it was decided, but seems to believe based on what he's heard that it was fully decided around E3.

EDIT: Also remembered that this is the same video where he mentions that Hero was supposed to drop at E3 but got delayed. He says this right when the Banjo release date gets announced.

 

[Eremurus]

I just find that the completely out of left field choices like Piranha Plant are the most fun, and usually have great move set designs. I like seeing characters nobody could have foresaw getting in.

 

[N3ON]

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I linked the time to start, but just in case jump to about 16:50. He's a little unsure when exactly it was decided, but seems to believe based on what he's heard that it was fully decided around E3.

EDIT: Also remembered that this is the same video where he mentions that Hero was supposed to drop at E3 but got delayed. He says this right when the Banjo release date gets announced.

Great, thank you. What I can believe is, as he says in the video, Nintendo's decision for FP2 was based on the performance of the game. I just don't think that, as Ultimate was the fastest selling Nintendo game ever at that time, they would've been hemming and hawing for a full half-year over it, and then possibly filmed the announcement, what? days later.

But, who knows, he might be right. He is generally credible. I doubt it, but we'll likely never know for sure.

I can get behind the claim that Hero was supposed to drop at E3 though. That seems plausible. I bet Min Min was also supposed to drop at the intended E3.

 

[SKX31]

How else can I feel when r/smashbros shouts at anyone even thinking about having locals and accuses fellow players of "wanting others to die"? That kind of rhetoric suggests that the community needs to uncontort itself from this position, which will take longer to go away than the disease.

It will take a while - I don't doubt that assertion.

And it will most likely be a trickle. It will be dangerous to host even locals, yes. Each tournament is making a judgement call before they go ahead (as the cases are with the Japanese and French tournaments - those tournaments took this seriously and carefully) and they're taking precautions like masks. Future tournaments will will have to be on a small-scale, case by case basis at first. At the same time though, if the situation does improve there will most likely be a step-by-step return.

That said - no, the Smash scene doesn't have the capacities to test competitors and organizers on a scale like Riot / Tencent (who will host the upcoming LoL World Championship in Shanghai). And the LoL World Championship has seen two teams withdraw (reducing the World Championship from 24 to 22 teams and leading to rescheduling). Quoting Liquipedia:

Note²: Due to national travel restrictions related to COVID-19, our two qualifying teams from Vietnam will unfortunately be unable to travel to Shanghai to compete this season.[4]

Which is related to the point I'm making here - even with mass testing on-site (like the NHL / NBA bubbles) there will be voices that advocate staying at home. And the LoL World Championship is much, much more centralized than the competitive Smash community - which is spread worldwide and very much grassroots.

It'll have to be a judgement call in each tournament's case. No, the entire community's not going to unanimously go back to big 100 people+ tournaments in one go. It's going to take a while. And different people are going to have different ideas on how safe is "safe enough" which is going to be noticeable in a grassroots / decentralized scene like the Smash scene is.

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I linked the time to start, but just in case jump to about 16:50. He's a little unsure when exactly it was decided, but seems to believe based on what he's heard that it was fully decided around E3.

EDIT: Also remembered that this is the same video where he mentions that Hero was supposed to drop at E3 but got delayed. He says this right when the Banjo release date gets announced.

I can get behind the claim that Hero was supposed to drop at E3 though. That seems plausible. I bet Min Min was also supposed to drop at the intended E3.

Yeah - in both cases we're talking about really powerful attacks and the potential to completely change how a match is going in one fell swoop. And that's considering A) The Hero uproar when he actually released and South Australia banned him (I don't think they've reversed it), B) Pros noting how good Min Min's edgeguarding was and ESAM instantly deciding to pick that character up.

One could make the argument that they were hemming and hawwing over FP2 - at least a little. Furukawa / Nintendo had to get Sakurai's okay after all, and the six characters would have to be deliberated on. For example, the initial ARMS announcement was coupled with a marketing push for the game, and that's a reason why I believe they hemmed a little.

 

[extremeturkey]

...You guys remember when Sceptile was the talk of the town during the Sm4sh days?

That was so dumb omg

 

[N3ON]

One could make the argument that they were hemming and hawwing over FP2 - at least a little. Furukawa / Nintendo had to get Sakurai's okay after all, and the six characters would have to be deliberated on. For example, the initial ARMS announcement was coupled with a marketing push for the game, and that's a reason why I believe they hemmed a little.

Hemming and hawing for a little while, sure. There are a lot of logistics behind adding basically two more years to a development cycle (though I have to imagine some contingencies were made for the possibility beforehand, as to not blindside all involved). But deliberating on the six characters or coupling an inclusion with a promotional push quite likely both postdate the actual decision to include another pass. I'm just saying I don't think they deliberated for almost seven months to make that initial decision.

 

[Deleted member]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

All of them.

Except Geno if we're considering all communities. Otherwise, all of them would get a "meh" from the general public.

 

[venomthebest]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

Toxtricity

 

[Perkilator]

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

If I had to limit myself to 1st party, I'd pick Scorbunny.

 

[cashregister9]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

Probably a Pokemon of Some sort like Inteleon or Toxtricity

I'm still of the belief that we wouldn't have had a double reveal at E3 this year if it had happened mostly because of that (probably placeholder) date listed for the Fpass and the fact that the first character was Min Min

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

If the next character is indeed 1st party, and was supposed to come at E3 (or even now really), the only realistic choices are Rex & Pyra/Mythra, Riki, Seven, Cinderace, and Intelleon.

EDIT: Maybe they'd do an Octoling, but I personally doubt it. I think they'd be too hard pressed to not make people say "but we already have Inkling".

 

[Rie Sonomura]

All of them.

Except Geno if we're considering all communities. Otherwise, all of them would get a "meh" from the general public.

Geno’s Square Enix though. Created FOR Mario, but OWNED by Square Enix.

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

hear me out: Octoling. No I’m not crazy, yes I am going by the recent Splatoon 2 promotion resurgence that just so happened to occur at the same time as the ARMS resurgence. Just. Sayin’.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Geno’s Square Enix though. Created FOR Mario, but OWNED by Square Enix.

...

How did I forget that?

...

So yeah. All of them. No exceptions.

 

[cashregister9]

If the next character is indeed 1st party, and was supposed to come at E3 (or even now really), the only realistic choices are Rex & Pyra/Mythra, Riki, Seven, Cinderace, and Intelleon.

I'm not sure if that is a typo or i'm having a brain fart but I don't know of any First Party Nintendo character that goes by Seven. unless that is like a codeword for like Geno or someone

 

[SpectreJordan]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

I think a third party alongside Min-Min could’ve helped tbh. People would come for the third party but then discover Min-Min & thus Arms since she’d be revealed at the same time.

 

[Shroob]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.

Back in E3 2019, as we all know, both Hero and Banjo-Kazooie where revealed. They where both big third parties that were popular in two different parts of the world ( Hero in Japan, Banjo in the west ) but weren’t unpopular in the other's country either. As a result, neither one overshadowed the other.

Now, let’s compare Min-Min to the likes of Crash. Min-Min is a small first party character from a three year old game that gained surprisingly moderate success for a new IP.
Crash, on the other hand, is a big third party character from an over 20 year old series of games with one of his latest being a highly successful remake collection of the original trilogy and has a long awaited fourth entry coming out soon.

So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

That is the reason why I believe CP7 could very much be another first party character, one that would either be of equal popularity so that neither them nor Min-Min would overshadow each other ( just like Hero and Banjo ), or, at the very least, one that may be a little more popular then Min-Min but not enough to hog all the spotlight from her.

But the question is, what first party characters would fit either one of those criterias?

Eh, I don't really think so tbh.


I will always default back to E32014. Was Pac Man shown at a behind door press conference and not the main show floor? Yes.


But as soon as people like Gamexplain leaked that they were looking at Pac Man..... Palutena who? Mr.Arcade's here and he's gonna Smash.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I'm not sure if that is a typo but I don't know of any First Party Nintendo character that goes by Seven. unless that is like a codeword for like Geno or someone

Codename for a spoilery character in Xenoblade Chronicles. Yes I know Smash already spoiled it, but I don't care. It's a really huge spoiler and I want to keep as many people as un-spoiled as possible.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Codename for a spoilery character in Xenoblade Chronicles. Yes I know Smash already spoiled it, but I don't care. It's a really huge spoiler and I want to keep as many people as un-spoiled as possible.

Said character also appeared in Project X Zone 2 alongside two other Nintendo cameos, Chrom and Lucina. The “Seven” comes from when they join

using “they” to not reveal that character’s gender

 

[cashregister9]

Codename for a spoilery character in Xenoblade Chronicles. Yes I know Smash already spoiled it, but I don't care. It's a really huge spoiler and I want to keep as many people as un-spoiled as possible.

Said character also appeared in Project X Zone 2 alongside two other Nintendo cameos, Chrom and Lucina. The “Seven” comes from when they join

using “they” to not reveal that character’s gender

Gotcha

 

[SharkLord]

Said character also appeared in Project X Zone 2 alongside two other Nintendo cameos, Chrom and Lucina. The “Seven” comes from when they join

using “they” to not reveal that character’s gender

But aren't they basically common knowledge now? We all know that they're Dan Moroboshi. Why hide it?

 

[Hinata]

Codename for a spoilery character in Xenoblade Chronicles. Yes I know Smash already spoiled it, but I don't care. It's a really huge spoiler and I want to keep as many people as un-spoiled as possible.

I can see why you'd want to avoid spoiling it. The cutscene where Riki's wife joins the party is truly one of the most emotional moments of the entire thing.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

But aren't they basically common knowledge now? We all know that they're Dan Moroboshi. Why hide it?

Spoiler: Xenoblade Chronicles Spoilers

Because I firmly believe that knowing that Fiora's death is actually a fake out death would take all of the emotional payoff right out of the entire first arc of the game for first time players, especially if they don't know for how long she's going to be "dead". The less the people who haven't played the game know the better imo.

I can see why you'd want to avoid spoiling it. The cutscene where Riki's wife joins the party is truly one of the most emotional moments of the entire thing.

lol

Though to his credit, the scene where Riki and Dunban talk on the beach is certainly the most heartwarming.

 

[PSIGuy]

NGL It kinda feels like people are severely underestimating the possibility of CP7 being first party, especially if they were indeed going to be revealed at E3 alongside Min-Min.

Why do I think that? Because If CP7 was revealed after Min-Min and is a big third party like, for example, Crash, it’s very likely that the former would be completely overshadowed by the latter.
...
So, if Nintendo’s plan really was to promote ARMS as a series they want to give attention to by adding one of the game’s characters, I don’t think it would be a smart business move to reveal a WAY bigger character right afterwards and taking the spotlight away from ARMS.

This seems like a decision that will have backfired horribly if it ends up being what they intended. By planning a dual reveal with two characters who are both lesser (so neither one steals the other one's thunder) but then having to delay them you just end up with... two separate underwhelming reveals. The smarter business move would be to have any big reveal so that the Fighter Pass in general gets more attention even if it treads on its own toes a bit. Instead neither character will really have the presence to bring much attention to the game or the Fighter Pass. And then when the character is finally playable, we get to look forward to three more months of speculation about which other first party characters stand a chance of getting in when there's only really two or three games/franchises Nintendo has that would stand to benefit from the promotion.

 

[Deleted member]

Did they end up revealing DLC for ARMS? Or announcing an ARMS 2? Or anything beyond a simple tournament for the 6 people who still play?

If they didn't really reveal any plans to do anything to ARMS, then Min Min was more of an addition to say 'hey, this game exists too, remember?" then straight up promoting it. I know it technically sounds like the same thing, but usually when Nintendo was looking to do something for a promotional reason (like adding Corrin or Byleth) it was because either a game was coming out roughly the same time or a DLC pack (in Three Houses' case, it was 'Ashen Wolves' DLC).

With Min Min, nothing really happened other than a simple tournament. It felt more like they were adding her because they couldn't before (raising the chances for a Xenoblade Chronicles rep since Rex/Pyra couldnt make it in for base game).

I would love for more 1st party characters to be added, but with only Min min and not even a hint as to who's next, we've got no idea if this pass is going to be geared more towards 'Promotional picks', First Party characters that couldn't make base roster, or path of 'Everyone's Here!' with more third party icons.

 

[PSIGuy]

It's less that nothing "happened" with ARMS and more that whatever happened, happened because it has immediate tangible benefits for Nintendo - cross-promotion for their evergreen titles. Three Hourses is on Switch. ARMS is on Switch. XB2 is on Switch. Astral Chain is on Switch. Sword and Shield are on Switch. You're not gonna see Banjo-level "only bringing them back because of fan outcry" picks from Nintendo's back catalog as Smash DLC so Advance Wars, Golden Sun, etc are out of the question. When it comes to speculating which Nintendo characters will get added... there's a pretty immediate and obvious shortlist.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Codename for a spoilery character in Xenoblade Chronicles. Yes I know Smash already spoiled it, but I don't care. It's a really huge spoiler and I want to keep as many people as un-spoiled as possible.

And here I was thinking they'd added a new character to Definitive Edition that was called Seven, and wondering how important they could be that people were considering them for Smash.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Geno’s Square Enix though. Created FOR Mario, but OWNED by Square Enix.

But then why do people act like he is a mario character

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I'm kind of hoping for a double reveal honestly. The only reason why is because I miss the days where we'd all get hype and have multiple characters revealed, and I feel like that may not happen again, at least until Smash 6.

But then why do people act like he is a mario character

Because in the Mario universe, he's a Mario character. In the real world, he's owned by Square.

 

[MooMew64]

But then why do people act like he is a mario character

For all intents and purposes he is a Mario character, it's just that he was created by SE as a collaborative effort between Nintendo and SE.

Basically: Geno is in a Mario game and his identity is directly tied to Mario, but Nintendo did not create him.

 

[Hinata]

For all intents and purposes he is a Mario character, it's just that he was created by SE as a collaborative effort between Nintendo and SE.

Basically: Geno is in a Mario game and his identity is directly tied to Mario, but Nintendo did not create him.

And that's why during Nintendo and Square's divorce, Geno was placed into an orphanage and nobody ever came back for him.

 

[chocolatejr9]

And that's why during Nintendo and Square's divorce, Geno was placed into an orphanage and nobody ever came back for him.

Feel like it's more of a foster, given that Nintendo visits every once in awhile (Mii costume and Spirit).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Insert immature joke about “balls” here

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Spoiler: Xenoblade Chronicles Spoilers

Because I firmly believe that knowing that Fiora's death is actually a fake out death would take all of the emotional payoff right out of the entire first arc of the game for first time players, especially if they don't know for how long she's going to be "dead". The less the people who haven't played the game know the better imo.

lol

Though to his credit, the scene where Riki and Dunban talk on the beach is certainly the most heartwarming.

And yet spin off games act like it's no big deal to spoil the twist. lol

 

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Insert immature joke about “balls” here

The stage really has a thing for .