Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Sc_Ev0lution]

Alright, this is the enlightened Sakura Wars rep:

I ask you, how can you go wrong with a Cowgirl-Samurai?

 

[Hadokeyblade]

i want a shin megami tensei fighter so we can say SMT got into Smash

We already have 2 Shin Megami tensei games in smash, P5 and Tokyo mirage sessions. You silly goose

 

[Flyboy]

Honestly Kiryu pops up more because he makes sense with the focus Sega has been putting on the series, but for me personally it's a combination of playing more Kiwami and realizing how much I like him as a character, plus wanting a heavy hitting brawler with Heihachi out of the picture, that's made him shoot up my list. Arle is just underneath him since I also love Puyo Puyo.

I like the Sega and Capcom comparison. I think both fans of those companies have a lot of overlap with series' and neither company is definitely totally gonna be in, so it's easy to look at a wide range of selections from those companies and be excited.

Sega is also a cool case because it feels that a second Sonic character like Tails or Eggman, Arle, Kiryu, a Streets of Rage rep, a classic character like the Bonanza Bros, a crazy pick like Hornet, Ulala, AiAi, a Shining character, Sakura Shinguji, a Phantasy Star or Phantasy Star Online character, etc etc, could all make a big splash and be exciting in Smash and bring something unique to the game, so it's hard to pick a single favorite when it comes to who we want to see.

That said Kiryu Monday who's with me

 

[SharkLord]

Use Nugget to glide OoT style

I want Kiryu's normal moves to cram every bit of epic, brutal fisticuffs into them with a style-switching mechanic, only for his specials to be the dumbest thing know to Smash. Your opponent automatically loses due to the sheer mount of dissonance giving them

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Alright, this is the enlightened Sakura Wars rep:

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I ask you, how can you go wrong with a Cowgirl-Samurai?

The funny part of this is that it makes sense.

Out of the female leads in Sakura wars she has the most playable appearances outside of Japan.

Showing up in her debut game, Sakura wars 5 so long my love, the first localized game in the series, as well as a party member in the 2 project x zone games, even being a major player during the final battle of PXZ2.

so odds are that western Sakura wars fans would have a bigger attachment to her than anyone else.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

We already have 2 Shin Megami tensei games in smash, P5 and Tokyo mirage sessions. You silly goose

Do you really want to start a war with the SMT fans here?

Like, I'm sure you're just ignorant here and that's okay, but uh...SMT fans don't take too kindly to Persona, and I'd venture to guess TMS#FE too.

I wouldn't remotely consider them similar, and that's coming from a resident Persona fan.

 

[Teeb147]

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Do you really want to start a war with the SMT fans here?

Like, I'm sure you're just ignorant here and that's okay, but uh...SMT fans don't take too kindly to Persona, and I'd venture to guess TMS#FE too.

I wouldn't remotely consider them similar, and that's coming from a resident Persona fan.

They were clearly just playing around. ;p

I'm sure there's plenty of SMT fans who like persona. I liked quite a few of them including persona. Not to say im a true smt fan or anything. And I did play the mmo quite a bit before it got offline

 

[SnowClaws]

i want a shin megami tensei fighter so we can say SMT got into Smash before SMTV got a release date

Oh boy, is it time to bring this samurai back into the Smash discussion.

 

[osby]

They were clearly just playing around. ;p

I'm sure there's plenty of SMT fans who like persona. I liked quite a few of them including persona. Not to say im a true smt fan or anything. And I did play the mmo quite a bit before it got offline

Agreed, a true SMT fan would only ever play Nocturne and then spend rest of his days complaining about every other ATLUS game in existence.

 

[Shroob]

Agreed, a true SMT fan would only ever play Nocturne and then spend rest of his days complaining about every other ATLUS game in existence.

I still wish I could get my....alternate reality.... copy of Nocturne to work.

 

[Sc_Ev0lution]

The funny part of this is that it makes sense.

Out of the female leads in Sakura wars she has the most playable appearances outside of Japan.

Showing up in her debut game, Sakura wars 5 so long my love, the first localized game in the series, as well as a party member in the 2 project x zone games, even being a major player during the final battle of PXZ2.

so odds are that western Sakura wars fans would have a bigger attachment to her than anyone else.

I mean, Project X Zone is how I learned about Sakura Wars, and many other series. It's got the same kind of power as Smash, where you mash a bunch of series together so you learn about games you've never heard of before.

Those games are silly fun, even if they don't make a lick of sense. I hope they make a new one for Switch.

 

[Ben Holt]

Pardon my absence recently. Been a bit under the weather.
But that aside, I feel compelled to put my chips on table now.
I have nothing but a gut feeling to go on, but this GameStop Geno "leak" feels true to me. It's the perfect slip-up, and the damage control seems so suspicious.
Note that I've been wrong SEVERAL times before. Most notably with Min Min, but I also thought that FP5 was bound to be a non-Nintendo character, yet it was Byleth.

 

[PSIGuy]

Persona is not Shin Megami Tensei.

Persona is Megami Tensei (MegaTen).

"Shin Megami Tensei" is "Mainline".

Megami Tensei is all games with Shin Megami Tensei mechanics including spin-offs.

 

[SharkLord]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is this noteworthy? Because I feel like this could be noteworthy.

 

[Nekoo]

Monday is going to be very interesting.

 

[Shroob]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is this noteworthy? Because I feel like this could be noteworthy.

Seems like it.


Tomorrow's do or die for the announcement either way. If there's an announcement, prepare yourselfs for about 10 or so hours from now.

 

[PSIGuy]

will Nintendo Switch finally Has Games? tune in on monday to find out

 

[Hadokeyblade]

I mean, Project X Zone is how I learned about Sakura Wars, and many other series. It's got the same kind of power as Smash, where you mash a bunch of series together so you learn about games you've never heard of before.

Those games are silly fun, even if they don't make a lick of sense. I hope they make a new one for Switch.

I like to pretend that in some cases PXZ is canon to their home series because it makes said series more interesting.

It surprisingly fits snugly in Sakura wars's timeline since it takes place in the tiny gap of time between Sakura wars 5 and the timeskip that leads into Sakura wars 6.

Adding on to Gemini I find it interesting how 4 out of her 5 overall playable appearances are on Nintendo platforms (Wii, DS, 3DS) so she definitely has more of a Nintendo connection than anyone else in her home series.

Bruh did I just make a compelling argument for an underdog protagonist for smash?

 

[Will]

and then monday came indieworld

 

[Animegamingnerd]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is this noteworthy? Because I feel like this could be noteworthy.

Basically if the announcement isn't tomorrow then its at least set your alarm to 7:00AM PST just in case its a mini direct.

 

[Hinata]

Pardon my absence recently. Been a bit under the weather.
But that aside, I feel compelled to put my chips on table now.
I have nothing but a gut feeling to go on, but this GameStop Geno "leak" feels true to me. It's the perfect slip-up, and the damage control seems so suspicious.
Note that I've been wrong SEVERAL times before. Most notably with Min Min, but I also thought that FP5 was bound to be a non-Nintendo character, yet it was Byleth.

So you really believe that Pamela Horton recorded the line, the editors for that video edited the line into the video, and whoever runs the YouTube channel uploaded the video, and at no point in this chain of events did anyone catch the "slip-up"?

The amount of complete ignorance that all this would require is beyond anything I could believe to be feasible.

 

[Shroob]

So you really believe that Pamela Horton recorded the line, the editors for that video edited the line into the video, and whoever runs the YouTube channel uploaded the video, and at no point in this chain of events did anyone catch the "slip-up"?

The amount of complete ignorance that all this would require is beyond anything I could believe to be feasible.

Not only to add to this that why the hell would they have this information in June, or earlier?


People on ResetEra only got **** for Min Min a day/hours before she dropped, why would they have Geno info over a MONTH in advance? That would mean there would have had to be a Direct planned, all the press **** shipped out, and then ****canned last minute.

 

[Sc_Ev0lution]

I like to pretend that in some cases PXZ is canon to their home series because it makes said series more interesting.

It surprisingly fits snugly in Sakura wars's timeline since it takes place in the tiny gap of time between Sakura wars 5 and the timeskip that leads into Sakura wars 6.

Adding on to Gemini I find it interesting how 4 out of her 5 overall playable appearances are on Nintendo platforms (Wii, DS, 3DS) so she definitely has more of a Nintendo connection than anyone else in her home series.

Bruh did I just make a compelling argument for an underdog protagonist for smash?

Hey, I'm not complaining if I rustle up a few more Gemini supporters!

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There are some really odd happenings if you take PxZ 1+2 as cannon (plus their predecessor, Namco x Capcom). Some are pretty snug, e.g. KOS-MOS and T-elos are post XS3 iirc, so no major conflict there, though idk how that impacts XB2. Others can kinda work, but are sort of strange: Alisa Omela (who'd be another good smash pic that's never gonna happen) seems to be pulled after the end of GE1 in PXZ1, but in PXZ2 is from GE2 and remembers the events from the first game, so all throughout GE2 she's thinking about crazy multiverse adventures. And then you have some that are completely ridiculous, like Fiora getting pulled right before the final battle to join in on the shenanigans. I'm sure there are plenty more examples, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

 

[Nekoo]

That gamestop thing is fake. However it could be a happy coincidence if Geno get announced this Monday.
Though, honestly, I'm more excited for something else beside Smash and Mario news in this direct.

 

[Teeb147]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is this noteworthy? Because I feel like this could be noteworthy.

Very cool. But is he actually saying it's a shadowdropped mini?

 

[Will]

That gamestop thing is fake. However it could be a happy coincidence if Geno get announced this Monday.
Though, honestly, I'm more excited for something else beside Smash and Mario news in this direct.

It's been a whole ****ing year since NMH3 content I just wanna know when it comes out man.

 

[Shroob]

It's been a whole ****ing year since NMH3 content I just wanna know when it comes out man.

Only a year?

Only 'a' year?



Must be nice. Us SMT fans have been over here 3 years and counting.

 

[Nekoo]

It's been a whole ****ing year since NMH3 content I just wanna know when it comes out man.

Only a year?

Only 'a' year?



Must be nice. Us SMT fans have been over here 3 years and counting.

*Laugh in FFVIIR fans who waited 5+ years just for one part of their games*

 

[osby]

*Laugh in FFVIIR fans who waited 5+ years just for one part of their games*

Valve fans: Wait, you guys get new games?

 

[Sc_Ev0lution]

It's been a whole ****ing year since NMH3 content I just wanna know when it comes out man.

Only a year?

Only 'a' year?



Must be nice. Us SMT fans have been over here 3 years and counting.

*Laugh in FFVIIR fans who waiter 5+ years just for one part of their games*

I'm not even a Pikmin fan, but how long has it been since Pikmin 4 was "almost done?"

 

[Shroob]

Valve fans: Wait, you guys get new games?

Valve, "What? You guys don't like Artifact? You don't want a card game in an over-inflated market? It's got the DOTA brand on it, you gotta like it, EVERYONE loves DOTA, right?! RIGHT?!"

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Hey, I'm not complaining if I rustle up a few more Gemini supporters!

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There are some really odd happenings if you take PxZ 1+2 as cannon (plus their p, Namco x Capcom). Some are pretty snug, e.g. KOS-MOS and T-elos are post XS3 iirc, so no major conflict there, though idk how that impacts XB2. Others can kinda work, but are sort of strange: Alisa Omela (who'd be another good smash pic that's never gonna happen) seems to be pulled after the end of GE1 in PXZ1, but in PXZ2 is from GE2 and remembers the events from the first game, so all throughout GE2 she's thinking about crazy multiverse adventures. And then you have some that are completely ridiculous, like Fiora getting pulled right before the final battle to join in on the shenanigans. I'm sure there are plenty more examples, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

And in some cases like in Valkiria chronicles where the timeline in that series is vague enough due to everything being told via flashback that the events of PXZ1 could plausibly just be a misadventure that was was never. Written down after the ragnite war because who would believe them?

And in the case of Tales of vesperia where Yuri and the gang clearly refer to the events of the game as being something that happened in their past so it clearly just takes place after Tales of vesperia.

 

[Will]

Only a year?

Only 'a' year?



Must be nice. Us SMT fans have been over here 3 years and counting.

Sorry bro but we not the same. Suda51 just built different.

It's also been nine years since a traditional NMH game anyway, so if we're going to keep inflating who has the most time-consuming pain

 

[Calamitas]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Is this noteworthy? Because I feel like this could be noteworthy.

Basically if the announcement isn't tomorrow then its at least set your alarm to 7:00AM PST just in case its a mini direct.

*Laughs in German*

 

[Ben Holt]

So you really believe that Pamela Horton recorded the line, the editors for that video edited the line into the video, and whoever runs the YouTube channel uploaded the video, and at no point in this chain of events did anyone catch the "slip-up"?

The amount of complete ignorance that all this would require is beyond anything I could believe to be feasible.

This is GameStop. The company that ripped cellphone wrap off of copies of Xenoblade Chronicles so they could sell it "used" for 90 dollars instead of 60.
Also, there is precedence, as GameStop leaked Janemba for Dragon Ball Fighterz.

To be clear, I don't believe the leak per se, I just have a sneaking suspicion about this one. It "feels" plausible, but so did the Grinch Leak, which turned out to be bull****.

 

[SnowClaws]

Hey, I'm not complaining if I rustle up a few more Gemini supporters!

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There are some really odd happenings if you take PxZ 1+2 as cannon (plus their predecessor, Namco x Capcom). Some are pretty snug, e.g. KOS-MOS and T-elos are post XS3 iirc, so no major conflict there, though idk how that impacts XB2. Others can kinda work, but are sort of strange: Alisa Omela (who'd be another good smash pic that's never gonna happen) seems to be pulled after the end of GE1 in PXZ1, but in PXZ2 is from GE2 and remembers the events from the first game, so all throughout GE2 she's thinking about crazy multiverse adventures. And then you have some that are completely ridiculous, like Fiora getting pulled right before the final battle to join in on the shenanigans. I'm sure there are plenty more examples, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

Another example is Resident Evil in which Chris and Jill are from RE Revelations and Leon is from RE 6. RE Revelations takes place in 2005 while RE 6 takes in 2012. This is why Leon is suspicious of a younger Chris and Jill in PxZ when he first encounter them. I guess the major conflict is the seven years gap in which Leon could of warn his teammate on what happen to them in the future.

Here is a timeline of Resident Evil, though it didn't mention the event of PxZ:

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

Also, there is precedence, as GameStop leaked Janemba for Dragon Ball Fighterz.

That wasn't GameStop, that was Xbox.

 

[Will]

To be clear, I don't believe the leak per se, I just have a sneaking suspicion about this one.

I have nothing but a gut feeling to go on, but this GameStop Geno "leak" feels true to me.

Ben stop capping You either buy it or you don't.

 

[Ben Holt]

*Laugh in FFVIIR fans who waited 5+ years just for one part of their games*

*Laughs in Super Mario fandom*
You guys WAIT for your games? I don't even need announcements to know that mine are coming!

 

[Shroob]

All I'm saying is, I got a certain thread on mute in case Monday comes to pass and either outcome occurs. Either way, they won't be good boys and girls.