• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.

DaybreakHorizon

Beauty in the Chaos
Joined
Jul 28, 2013
Messages
9,625
Location
The Shadow World
NNID
tehponycorn
3DS FC
4253-3486-4603
On the topic of Square Enix, some of the franchises people bring up regularly as possibilities surprise me, not in a bad way, though. Bravely Default and The World Ends with You have been brought up more lately, and it makes me happy even though I'm not sure their chances are all that high.

If we do end up with a Bravely Default character, I feel like it will be someone from BD 2 and not one of the original 4. As much as I love them, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me to use a character from a 3DS game when an upcoming Switch game is right there. My most wanted is actually Magnolia (Edea 2nd) because I think she has the most potential to be unique, but it's not like any of the others lack in that area anyway.
smugsquidgirl.jpg

Allow me to introduce myself.

Bravely and TWEWY will probably be presented together, though TWEWY might also get written up alongside Sora and Geno. I dunno. Originally it was all supposed to be one thing, but a friend suggested I break them up to increase retention which...made way too much sense.

Either way, I personally consider Bravely and TWEWY in the top half in terms of likelihood. I personally consider Bravely to be the most likely, which I'll argue for eventually.
 

Guybrush20X6

Creator of Lego Theory
Joined
May 22, 2012
Messages
15,882
NNID
Guybrush20X6
3DS FC
4253-3477-4804
Switch FC
SW-2140-7758-3904

SNEKeater

Smash Master
Joined
Sep 4, 2019
Messages
3,375
Maybe it's because I'm not that familiar with Bravely, but I feel TWEWY would be more likely to get any type of representation in Smash. Haven't played both series to be honest, but that's my probably wrong perception about it. In any case, really cool essay tehponycorn, and looking forward to your next ones.

Edit

According to my interpretations, Metroid 5 already came out. It's just called Metroid Other M instead.
Other M isn't Metroid 5. To be Metroid 5 it should take place after Metroid Fusion (which is Metroid 4), and that's not the case. Other M takes place after Super Metroid (Metroid 3).
Also, they never promoted it as Metroid 5 or anything like that.
 
Last edited:

GoodGrief741

Smash Legend
Joined
Sep 22, 2012
Messages
10,169
According to my interpretations, Metroid 5 already came out. It's just called Metroid Other M instead.
I have never heard of a game by that name, you must've had a poorly-written fever dream.

(Plus given the chronology, Other M isn't Metroid 5 anyway)
 

Icedragonadam

Smash Master
Joined
Jul 16, 2014
Messages
4,093
Switch FC
SW-5227-6397-6112
So now i'm hearing that Daisy and Marth are glitched right now? So who's everyone who believes in Glitch Theory speculating based on those two? :laugh:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 31, 2018
Messages
1,057
View attachment 277185

Allow me to introduce myself.

Bravely and TWEWY will probably be presented together, though TWEWY might also get written up alongside Sora and Geno. I dunno. Originally it was all supposed to be one thing, but a friend suggested I break them up to increase retention which...made way too much sense.

Either way, I personally consider Bravely and TWEWY in the top half in terms of likelihood. I personally consider Bravely to be the most likely, which I'll argue for eventually.
Huh. I figured it would take Nintendo wanting to push Bravely Default really hard for the series to have much of a shot. They always have somewhat, but not as much as, say DQ. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the writeup. Your work's always good.
 
Last edited:

SharkLord

Smash Hero
Joined
Jun 20, 2020
Messages
7,688
Location
Pangaea, 250 MYA
So what is this "glitch theory" exactly?
"Glitch theory" is basically a catch-all for predicting a character based on glitches found with certain fighters. I think it started with Mii Swordsman and Duck Hunt screwing with save data, and their code was used for Hero and Banjo. This was supported by the fact that Piranha Plant used code from Bowser Jr. I think it started really flaring up here around the same time Ness' eyes started disappearing. I think I suggested it could be Reimu, who would use Ness as a base for rigging and would mainly change the eyes, though I've seen cases made for Geno (But of course) and Neku.
There's also moments where it could just mean nothing-For example, Ridley apparently has something weird going on with his down special, but he was one of the fighters who was buffed. In addition, not all shared code means glitches-For example, Captain Falcon's rigging was apparently used for Min Min, but he didn't have any glitches.
I think we're beginning to take these glitches too seriously. I don't think we've had anything as major as Mii Swordfighter and Duck Hunt crashing your save data, and these aren't concrete in any way.
 

RileyXY1

Smash Hero
Joined
Jun 8, 2016
Messages
7,465
"Glitch theory" is basically a catch-all for predicting a character based on glitches found with certain fighters. I think it started with Mii Swordsman and Duck Hunt screwing with save data, and their code was used for Hero and Banjo. This was supported by the fact that Piranha Plant used code from Bowser Jr. I think it started really flaring up here around the same time Ness' eyes started disappearing. I think I suggested it could be Reimu, who would use Ness as a base for rigging and would mainly change the eyes, though I've seen cases made for Geno (But of course) and Neku.
There's also moments where it could just mean nothing-For example, Ridley apparently has something weird going on with his down special, but he was one of the fighters who was buffed. In addition, not all shared code means glitches-For example, Captain Falcon's rigging was apparently used for Min Min, but he didn't have any glitches.
I think we're beginning to take these glitches too seriously. I don't think we've had anything as major as Mii Swordfighter and Duck Hunt crashing your save data, and these aren't concrete in any way.
And in fact, as far as I know the Mii Swordfighter/Duck Hunt glitches later turned out to be caused by SD card corruption,
 

Scoliosis Jones

Kept you waiting, huh?
Writing Team
Joined
Aug 7, 2012
Messages
9,582
Location
Buffalo, New York
NNID
ScoliosisxJones
3DS FC
1762-3194-1826
Glitch theory is a classic case of misinformation leading to inaccurate fan theories. That’s all it is.

It doesn’t mean anything.
 

Will

apustaja
Joined
Jan 18, 2014
Messages
33,933
Location
hell
Switch FC
SW-7573-2962-2407
People be seeing Samus having a small glitch with her neutral special and people will yell "GENO IS IN BAYBEE" from the top of their roofs.
 

SirCamp

Smash Ace
Joined
Apr 15, 2014
Messages
709
I'm really hoping for a Nintendo Racing game.
Or Diddy Kong Racing 2.
Mario Kart 8 is going strongly.
Yesssss give me Diddy Kong Racing 2! Or honestly it doesn't even need to be Diddy Kong, but a racing game with multiple vehicles, boss races, and adventure/story mode, and a hub world? Yes please!
 

Captain Fun

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 10, 2014
Messages
1,464
Glitch theory is a classic case of misinformation leading to inaccurate fan theories. That’s all it is.

It doesn’t mean anything.
It’s another theory that relies on gaps in the community’s knowledge, like Google theory.

Google theory only “worked” because a layperson can’t fully explain Google’s algorithm. Glitch theory is the same, founded on misinformation/conjecture.
 

NonSpecificGuy

V Has Come To
Super Moderator
Premium
Writing Team
Joined
Feb 12, 2014
Messages
14,022
Location
Mother Base
NNID
Goldeneye2674
3DS FC
0989-1770-6584
Remember that guy that had that super glitched version of Smash Wii U? Not really relevant to the theory but holy **** that was incredible.
 

Megadoomer

Moderator
Moderator
Writing Team
Joined
Jun 28, 2013
Messages
10,390
Switch FC
SW-0351-1523-9047
Actually, Metroid Other M is a remake of the first Metroid game. It just added some more content for after you beat Mother Brain.
Metroid Other M is the Wii game where Samus becomes traumatized at the sight of Ridley (despite killing him at least six or seven times before this without issue), players are forced to play hide-and-seek games where they don't know what they're looking for (like a dark green smudge in a field of grass, or a logo on a ship in the background), Samus is locked out of most of her suit's powers (including resistance to extreme heat, which is only unlocked after going through a lava-filled area and constantly taking damage due to the heat) because Adam didn't give her authorization, and THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY THEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABY.

It's probably obvious that I was not a fan of what I played of that one.
 
Last edited:

pupNapoleon

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 24, 2014
Messages
8,952
Location
Miami, NYC
NNID
NapoleonPlays
3DS FC
5129-1683-5306
Switch FC
SW 3124 9647 8311
Where
surprise speculation seriescan I find your comments on Sora tiem

While I have a flash of inspiration and an extended capability to capitalize my words, I present:

The Second Square Enix Character Argument I

Rather than an acknowledgements section, I figured I'd rather write a bit about how this essay came to be and how it will be constructed.

To be completely honest, I never planned on writing another speculation essay on this site. I'd simply lost the motivation and passion to write longform essays, especially on a platform that doesn't seem to care for such content. However, as I enter my fourth month confined to my home in quarantine, I find myself getting increasingly bored. And so here I am, writing what is likely my largest speculation piece yet. Hopefully this series keeps my brain active enough to get me through the summer. Or maybe I should just read a book or something. I'm sure that'd be less embarrassing then this additional skeleton in the closet that is my series of Smash Speculation essays, but here I am anyways. I'll be releasing these throughout the next week or so in increments of 2 characters or so, and I'll discuss the regular suspects as well as some more out there characters.

Around a year and a half ago I wrote The Ultimate Square Enix Character Argument, my first major speculation essay. Inspired by the large discussion surrounding the well spread rumors that a Square Enix character would be included in Smash, I included 5 miniature essays on who I believed the Square Enix character could be, with a heavy focus on Dragon Quest, Sora, and Geno. Since then, I've written 8 other pieces on a variety of different topics, from strange characters to speculation culture and gained a lot more experience in both essay writing and speculation. Seriously, that piece is messy. Long block paragraphs, run on sentences, comma misplacements, and more...I was a much worse writer then, and part of the reason I'm writing this piece is to prove to myself that I can do better.

This purpose of this piece is to revisit the argument about a Square Enix character and the potential of a second Square Enix character being added as DLC. This argument will not only address the change in Square Enix speculation following Hero's inclusion in Fighters Pass 1, but also how speculation has changed in the wake of other announcements. This piece will probably contain more personal speculation and theories than my previous pieces, but I'll make sure to mark where I do so for reference. Otherwise, I hope this piece contributes to speculation in a meaningful way, and provides some insights for everyone to take into account going forward.
"Gee Square Enix, how come Nintendo lets you have TWO DLC characters in Smash Ultimate?" the other companies ask, jealousy clearly apparent in their voices.

Ever since the surprising success of Octopath Traveler, Nintendo and Square Enix have reached a second golden age in their corporate relations. To use less hyperbole, they've been closer than they have been in recent years, with the closest comparisons being the DS-3DS and 16-bit eras. In June 2018, prior to the large push of Square Enix games on Nintendo consoles, Square Enix announced both a desire to create more original games on the Switch and the creation of a company division to do just that. And clearly since then, Square Enix support of the Switch has been immense. To name titles that have come out since Octopath Traveler:

  • The World Ends With You: Final Remix*
  • Dragon Quest Builders 2* (preceded by Builders* approximately 3-4 months before Octopath*)
  • Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon
  • Oninaki
  • Ports of Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IV, X, X-2, and XII
  • Dragon Quest XIS: Echoes of an Elusive Age Definitive Edition*
  • Enhanced ports of Dragon Quest*, Dragon Quest II*, and Dragon Quest III*
  • Romancing SaGa 2 and 3
  • Collection of Mana (containing Final Fantasy Adventure/Mystic Quest, Secret of Mana, and the first English localization of Trials of Mana)
  • most recently, the Trials of Mana remake
  • and upcoming, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Remastered
While many of these games are multiplatform alongside PS4 and Xbox, it's worth noting that all games accompanied by an asterisk* were published by Nintendo outside of Japan. Also, while Nintendo is known to take publishing rights for many series, historically they've only done so prominently for two companies: Level-5 (primarily during the DS era) and Square Enix (to this day).

So, Nintendo and Square Enix have a whole lot of corporate synergy right now; at least more so than other companies who simply put games on Nintendo platforms. This would certainly facilitate negotiations if they were to occur. Negotiations would be further facilitated by the fact that a majority of significant figures have already been brought to the table at one point or another. Tetsuya Normura, director of The World Ends With You, Kingdom Hearts, and most recently Final Fantasy 7 Remake, worked with Sakurai on Cloud in Sm4sh and Ultimate (assuming negotiations were concurrent as rumored), and Yuji Horii, director of the Dragon Quest series, worked with Sakurai on Hero in Fighters Pass 1. Corporate leadership would have played a role in both rounds of negotiations, which means that there's precedent, and from that a set process Nintendo could rely on to streamline negotiations to get a Square Enix character or characters on the list for a potential Fighters Pass 2 inclusion.

And before anyone says "but tehponycorn! square enix is stingy!" we all know that's not the truth, so don't even start.

I'll take time to address the counter argument of Nintendo being close to a lot of companies. This is certainly true, but most lack the consistency and notability of Nintendo and Square Enix's relationship. Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo are both worth mentioning, as they've helped Nintendo work on games internally. Microsoft has been good about sharing exclusives such as Cuphead and the Ori series, and Capcom's port frenzy of the Mega Man, Resident Evil, and Devil May Cry series, with their port of Devil May Cry 3 being the definitive edition, certainly bring to mind Square Enix's similar port frenzy. These companies are certainly worth noting in speculation, but don't necessarily take away from Square Enix's chance of getting their character(s) on the list(tm). If the end goal is simply getting on the list for Sakurai and/or Nintendo to choose, then the limiting factor is simply what characters Nintendo can/can't negotiate for. Theoretically, Nintendo could negotiate for as many characters as they'd like. The reason I turn to Square Enix specifically is the fact that they still have a multitude of iconic series and characters to draw from that would generate significant hype, corporate promotion, and sales in Fighters Pass 2.

So, the question, "why a Square Enix character again" could be simplified down to ease of negotiations and Square Enix still having characters Nintendo wants in Smash. So then, our next question becomes: Who?
I've previously written about 2B from Nier: Automata in long form, and my arguments in that essay hold up for the most part (at the very least, better than my "Ultimate" Square Enix Character Argument). I'm not going to reinvent the wheel, so this section will serve more so as an addendum to my previous essay as well as introducing the possibility of another character from the Nier series. Please read that essay for a good background on 2B and her chances in Smash, especially despite a lack of Nintendo appearances.

To add on to my 2B essay:
So, as a whole, the Nier series is schmovin'.

No? Okay.

Regardless, the internal push for the Nier series from Square Enix seems to continue even now, almost half a year after my original essay, and it doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon. If given the chance, I could definitely see Square Enix attempting to get the Nier series in Smash via 2B, or Nier.

View attachment 277181


This guy. Yes, his name is actually Nier. He's the protagonist of NieR Replicant, which, as previously mentioned, is receiving a significant remaster. If Square Enix is going solely for promotion, it's possible they would push for Nier over 2B during negotiations. For what it's worth, in his article on Nier Automata he also wrote highly about NieR Replicant, so it's possible Sakurai would have no preference for one given character from the Nier series, so long as the series itself is represented. This is nothing more than speculation, however. Especially considering that Sakurai has repeatedly said the games he writes about have no bearing on a character's chances in Smash.

Nier also has had a net zero appearances on Nintendo consoles, so I don't even know if any technicalities can be made for him.

Ultimately, the chances of 2B and Nier depend on how much Square wants to push the series and the extent of the technicalities Nintendo and Sakurai would make to include a character from the Nier series. I'll keep my stance that 2B and Nier are very much in a similar position to Joker in Fighters Pass, wherein either of them are a dark horse pick that is also entirely reasonable. At the very least, I'd definitely keep my eyes on the Nier series going forward.

imagine actually thinking gex will get into smash

Joking aside again, there is a precedent for Gex on Nintendo consoles, and his three games have sold a total of 15 million units worldwide. So it's possible.

However, he's from a long dormant series and he faces incredibly steep competition, so I don't see him a likely in the slightest. Sorry Gex fans.

Next time I'll be covering Lara Croft, Final Fantasy, and Chrono in three smaller essays. I hope you look forward to it!
Where can I find your support of Sora-- and how it may have changed at all?
 
Last edited:

AceAttorney9000

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 25, 2019
Messages
1,881
If we end up getting a Direct this month, the one thing I'm hoping for is Bayonetta 3. A trailer, some gameplay footage, some cutscene footage... just please give me a sign that that game hasn't been cancelled or stuck in development hell... preferably something more substantial than yet another "development is going smoothly" statement, which is about as reassuring as Frank Drebin standing in front of a burning building and telling everyone "Nothing to see here!".

Some other things that would be cool, in regards to just first-party stuff...
  • Them Mario remasters and ports everyone's been rumor-ing about
  • Story trailers for Metroid Prime 4 and Breath of the Wild 2
  • The return of one of Nintendo's dormant franchises (F-Zero, Advance Wars, Golden Sun, Wario Land, Chibi-Robo, Sin & Punishment, etc.)
  • An announcement for an Astral Chain sequel
  • An announcement for more Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 DLC
  • Another Nintendo-themed Warriors game
  • And of course, the next Smash DLC character reveal (hopefully a double reveal like with Hero and Banjo)
... and then third-party stuff, which I don't know if we'll get due to Covid, but just in case...
  • Moar Switch ports...
    • Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection
    • Dragon Quest IV, V, and VI, plus HD remasters of VII, VIII, and IX
    • Dragon's Crown (or just anything from Vanillaware)
    • Final Fantasy I, II, III, IV, IV: The After Years, V, and VI
    • For Honor
    • Guilty Gear Xrd
    • Nier: Automata
    • Saint's Row: Gat out of Hell
    • Samurai Warriors 3
    • Scott Pilgrim vs. The World: The Game
    • Soulcalibur VI (with a Nintendo guest character)
    • Tekken Tag Tournament 2
    • The King of Fighters XIV
    • Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
    • Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate
  • Some news on Shin Megami Tensei V
  • An announcement for an Octopath Traveler sequel
  • An announcement for a western release of Dragon Quest Heroes I & II
  • An announcement for a western release of Persona 5 Scramble
  • Marvel vs. Capcom 4
 
Last edited:

Koopaul

Smash Champion
Joined
Oct 29, 2013
Messages
2,336
Metroid Other M is the Wii game where Samus becomes traumatized at the sight of Ridley (despite killing him at least six or seven times before this without issue), players are forced to play hide-and-seek games where they don't know what they're looking for (like a dark green smudge in a field of grass, or a logo on a ship in the background), Samus is locked out of most of her suit's powers (including resistance to extreme heat, which is only unlocked after going through a lava-filled area and constantly taking damage due to the heat) because Adam didn't give her authorization, and THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY THEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABYTHEBABY.

It's probably obvious that I was not a fan of what I played of that one.
I feel like the gameplay mechanics were good but the execution was horrible. I'd like to see a good game made using those mechanics.
 

Guynamednelson

Smash Legend
Joined
Dec 17, 2014
Messages
13,129
NNID
Nelson340
3DS FC
2105-8742-2099
Switch FC
SW 4265 6024 9719
And in fact, as far as I know the Mii Swordfighter/Duck Hunt glitches later turned out to be caused by SD card corruption,
I wish people would start just considering that glitch Smash's luckiest coincidence.
 

DaybreakHorizon

Beauty in the Chaos
Joined
Jul 28, 2013
Messages
9,625
Location
The Shadow World
NNID
tehponycorn
3DS FC
4253-3486-4603
Huh. I figured it would take Nintendo wanting to push Bravely Default really hard for the series to have much of a shot. They always have somewhat, but not as much as, say DQ. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the writeup. Your work's always good.
And that's exactly what they're dong.

Headlining the TGAs for Nintendo with No More Heroes 3, as well as taking up 8/35 of the March Mini-Direct alongside repeated notifications to play the demo via the News tab on Switch. Nintendo is clearly pushing Bravely as their Square Enix series, and I believe that in combination with the series' existing popularity (which is more than you'd think if you ask me) could lead to Nintendo putting a Bravely character on Pass 2.

Again, I'll go into more detail when I make a proper writeup on it, but consider this an incredibly in-brief version of my argument.
 
Last edited:

ChunkySlugger72

Smash Lord
Joined
Jul 2, 2018
Messages
1,834
I love Mario Kart 8, But I'm pretty burnt out by it after 6 years, Though I hate the 2 item system as it makes racing way too chaotic and less skill based.

I would love for Nintendo to make a sequel to "Diddy Kong Racing" to fill in the gap until Mario Kart 9, Back in 2001 They originally had a sequel planned for the Gamecube called "Donkey Kong Racing" and was gonna have different types of "Animal buddies" that you can feed, raise and race with in different environments.

E3 2001: Donkey Kong Racing (Nintendo Gamecube)


But unfortunately it got canceled because Rare was bought out by Microsoft in 2002, But I would really love to see Nintendo revisit this concept again for the Donkey Kong franchise.

Side Note: I would love to see Banjo-Kazooie return to this series as a "Guest Character" too as a throwback to Diddy Kong Racing.
 
Last edited:

Schnee117

Too Majestic for Gender
Joined
Aug 21, 2014
Messages
19,765
Location
Rollbackia
Switch FC
SW-6660-1506-8804
I feel like the gameplay mechanics were good but the execution was horrible. I'd like to see a good game made using those mechanics.
The mechanics deserved a far better control scheme than what it got.
Having a 3d action game in the middle of the Wii/PS3/360 era be controlled by a D-Pad is ass backwards.

My only guess is that something was up with the person's Wii U, or at least their copy of Smash on Wii U.

Either that, or it was edited screenshots via the snapshot feature.
It was something that was extremely faulty with the system itself iirc
 

DaybreakHorizon

Beauty in the Chaos
Joined
Jul 28, 2013
Messages
9,625
Location
The Shadow World
NNID
tehponycorn
3DS FC
4253-3486-4603
Where can I find your support of Sora-- and how it may have changed at all?
It's coming after my next essay.

In short, the Kingdom Hearts series rides as high as ever, but Disney is also as unpredictable as ever, so I don't feel confident calling his chances in any definite way as I can other series. If you're asking my personal stance, I still want Sora as much as ever.

It's okay though. I have Kingdom Hearts on Playstation so I'll be okay...

SoraHurt(2).jpg
 
Last edited:

Perkilator

Smash Legend
Writing Team
Joined
Apr 8, 2018
Messages
11,410
Location
The perpetual trash fire known as Planet Earth(tm)
It's coming after my next essay.

In short, the Kingdom Hearts series rides as high as ever, but Disney is also as unpredictable as ever, so I don't feel confident calling his chances in any definite way as I can other series. If you're asking my personal stance, I still want Sora as much as ever.

It's okay though. I have Kingdom Hearts on Playstation so I'll be okay...

View attachment 277190
KH YouTuber HMK just said in a recent stream discussing Vol. 2 that Square and Disney literally pour out the KH license to anyone who takes it (hence the existence of those horrible KH shirts).
 

DaybreakHorizon

Beauty in the Chaos
Joined
Jul 28, 2013
Messages
9,625
Location
The Shadow World
NNID
tehponycorn
3DS FC
4253-3486-4603
KH YouTuber HMK just said in a recent stream discussing Vol. 2 that Square and Disney literally pour out the KH license to anyone who takes it (hence the existence of those horrible KH shirts).
You got a source on that? I'm certainly interested to hear the statement in full.

Horrible KH shirts have been a thing for years though. I have one that I bought in like, the 4th grade that still fits. I wear it as a pajama shirt. Furthermore, it's one thing to license out shirts for a quick buck and another to work alongside Nintendo to include it in the biggest gaming crossover of all time.
 

ZelDan

Smash Master
Joined
Nov 19, 2011
Messages
3,303
Location
New Hampshire
I really didn't have any issues adapting to Other M's controls and actually liked the combat and boss fights of the game. My only major gripe with Other M's gameplay were those obnoxious pixel hunt segments, or atleast the last couple of them. For a more minor complaint, Samus' Gravity suit not changing purple was a pretty big buzzkill for me.

Story-wise, well, it was certainly a mess. I wasn't exactly AS negative about it as others and feel some things maybe got overblown, but I can't say I was overall a fan of how hamfisted or persistently anti-climactic it was either. I wasn't mad a bout the story but moreso just disappointed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom