Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Cutie Gwen]

I myself have made this very same argument.

The sticking point for me currently is simply that we’ve never, not once, had a series begin their playable history in Smash with a character other than the mascot, cover boy/girl, or protagonist. It just simply hasn’t happened.

Granted, we’ve also never gotten an Assist Trophy upgrade in the same game.

So basically, it comes down to two “rules” or “patterns” coming to a head here. The question becomes, “Why is more likely to break?” And I must say, I find the 30+ series starting with their lead character as a compelling pattern.

For all I know this comment could age poorly and we get Min-Min, but I, for now, am just unconvinced.

I think that the fact Sakurai admitted Alucard was only scrapped due to the series' main weapon should be evidence that protagonist first isn't as solid of a rule as it may seem

The fact that hardly anyone recognized the FF7 intro homage in Clouds reveal trailer should be enough evidence that Smash fans by and large don't play non Nintendo games.

Ironically enough that'd be very different if Cloud ended up being an Ultimate DLC newcomer, FF7's in the top 10 best selling games on the eshop of 2019, considering free download titles are counted, with Fortnite being at the top, that's impressive and ironic considering all the people who demanded a more Nintendo oriented character

 

[Koopaul]

It makes little sense to have promotional Spirits for a certain game if they intended to have a character from said game added later. That being said. Those Sw/Sh Spirits were added before the second Fighters Pass was decided right?

 

[Guynamednelson]

It makes little sense to put in promotional Spirits for a game if they intended to have a character added later. That being said. Those Sw/Sh Spirits were added before the second Fighters Pass was decided right?

Character presentations are recorded months ahead of time, which means the Gen 8 spirits and Sakurai saying character choices have been finalized in Byleth's presentation were both in November.

 

[MisterHollywood]

I myself have made this very same argument.

The sticking point for me currently is simply that we’ve never, not once, had a series begin their playable history in Smash with a character other than the mascot, cover boy/girl, or protagonist. It just simply hasn’t happened.

Granted, we’ve also never gotten an Assist Trophy upgrade in the same game.

So basically, it comes down to two “rules” or “patterns” coming to a head here. The question becomes, “Why is more likely to break?” And I must say, I find the 30+ series starting with their lead character as a compelling pattern.

For all I know this comment could age poorly and we get Min-Min, but I, for now, am just unconvinced.

I don’t think it’s fair to make judgements based on precedents. Granted, it’s the only way to make judgements, if anything Smash just proves that precedent doesn’t mean ****. People were saying 3rd parties can’t get in smash and then Snake happened, then it was Smash can only have characters who have had a (major) appearance on a Nintendo console and then Cloud happened and later Joker, then only real characters can be added and we got Plant, then it was no Western 3rd parties and Banjo happened. There’s probably a couple more but the point I’m making is we usually make up rules that we don’t actually have anything to back up. The fact that we’ve always gotten the main character first is definitely supporting, but it’s not defining, if that makes any sense.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It makes little sense to have promotional Spirits for a certain game if they intended to have a character from said game added later. That being said. Those Sw/Sh Spirits were added before the second Fighters Pass was decided right?

The spirits were released in November, which judging by the consistency of the other Sakurai presentations, is when Byleth's was recorded, where the second pass was revealed. There's also pre-production to consider, where they decide who they want to go for, negotiate for the characters, assign budgets, teams and deadlines, etc, so this was absolutely already in the planning stages when SwoShi got Spirited Away. Otherwise we'll have to consider Claire Redfield as a possibility who's still in the game

 

[GoodGrief741]

Don't you know Smash isn't actually a game, but a video game museum with a bonus platform fighter minigame?

I'm loath to admit it but I've probably played Coin Launcher trying to get every trophy more than I did playing multiplayer in all the games combined.

I think that the fact Sakurai admitted Alucard was only scrapped due to the series' main weapon should be evidence that protagonist first isn't as solid of a rule as it may seem

On the contrary, I'd say it's proof of the rule's strength. Or rather, it proves that it's not an arbitrary rule, but rather has a reason behind it: the main character is chosen because they're generally the best way to represent the game. For Castlevania, the best way to represent the gameplay for most of the games is with a whip wielder, hence Alucard doesn't cut it.

 

[MeteoRain]

I'm loath to admit it but I've probably played Coin Launcher trying to get every trophy more than I did playing multiplayer in all the games combined.

On the contrary, I'd say it's proof of the rule's strength. Or rather, it proves that it's not an arbitrary rule, but rather has a reason behind it: the main character is chosen because they're generally the best way to represent the game. For Castlevania, the best way to represent the gameplay for most of the games is with a whip wielder, hence Alucard doesn't cut it.

Alucard does indeed cut it, but he needed to whip it.

 

[Ben Holt]

I'm loath to admit it but I've probably played Coin Launcher trying to get every trophy more than I did playing multiplayer in all the games combined.

On the contrary, I'd say it's proof of the rule's strength. Or rather, it proves that it's not an arbitrary rule, but rather has a reason behind it: the main character is chosen because they're generally the best way to represent the game. For Castlevania, the best way to represent the gameplay for most of the games is with a whip wielder, hence Alucard doesn't cut it.

One fan rule I wanna see broken is the "one character (plus MAYBE an Echo Fighter) per 3rd Party series". Personally, I want the floodgates opened for Sonic characters, but Alucard is also a character I really want playable. I'm still a 90s kid.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I do gotta ask, What makes Pokemon exempt from the Spirit Board Deconfirmation?

The part where everything is exempt from Spirit Board Deconfirmation, because it's not a real thing?

 

[osby]

One fan rule I wanna see broken is the "one character (plus MAYBE an Echo Fighter) per 3rd Party series". Personally, I want the floodgates opened for Sonic characters, but Alucard is also a character I really want playable. I'm still a 90s kid.

I assume that's less of a rule and more a logistic decision.

Nintendo has to pay royalties for every third party character they add. Even without a fanmade rule, I doubt they'd want to spend money on a dozen Sonic characters when the titular character does his job well enough. That's coming from a Sonic fan, btw.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'm loath to admit it but I've probably played Coin Launcher trying to get every trophy more than I did playing multiplayer in all the games combined.

On the contrary, I'd say it's proof of the rule's strength. Or rather, it proves that it's not an arbitrary rule, but rather has a reason behind it: the main character is chosen because they're generally the best way to represent the game. For Castlevania, the best way to represent the gameplay for most of the games is with a whip wielder, hence Alucard doesn't cut it.

See, here's the thing, if it was as clear cut as you're making it out to be, Alucard wouldn't have been considered at all yet he still was. Sakurai had to think about adding Alucard, only to decide against it instead of just going for Belmonts, who've been in more games than Alucard with a similar moveset to eachother unlike Alucard. If Sakurai was told by Nintendo to add Darkstalkers, he wouldn't use the protagonist, but rather Morrigan as she's the most iconic one

 

[N3ON]

You won't get very far trying to convince people Alucard isn't a protagonist within his series. Let alone one of the two most notable.

I mean, this doesn't disprove the point you think it does.

 

[Ben Holt]

I assume that's less of a rule and more a logistic decision.

Nintendo has to pay royalties for every third party character they add. Even without a fanmade rule, I doubt they'd want to spend money on a dozen Sonic characters when the titular character does his job well enough. That's coming from a Sonic fan, btw.

Would they not have to pay royalties for Spirits and Mii Costumes?
Also, Nintendo has to pay royalties for ALL characters. Even characters that they own fully like Mario, they have to pay Miyamoto his creation royalties, Charles Martinet his voice royalties, Koji Kondo his music royalties, etc, etc, etc.

 

[MisterHollywood]

The part where everything is exempt from Spirit Board Deconfirmation, because it's not a real thing?

Let’s be fair here, any spirit board additions from around November (when FP2 was decided) onward should be taken as deconfirmations. Why add spirits to a series that would just end up getting spirits added anyway, it’s redundant. Anything before then should be fair game. I’m not saying it’s a rule that the spirit board instant deconfirms, it just makes sense

 

[GoodGrief741]

See, here's the thing, if it was as clear cut as you're making it out to be, Alucard wouldn't have been considered at all yet he still was. Sakurai had to think about adding Alucard, only to decide against it instead of just going for Belmonts, who've been in more games than Alucard with a similar moveset to eachother unlike Alucard. If Sakurai was told by Nintendo to add Darkstalkers, he wouldn't use the protagonist, but rather Morrigan as she's the most iconic one

N3ON has a good point, but aside from that, I wouldn't give that much weight to Sakurai considering him. He was apparently the most voted Castlevania character on the ballot, he's one of the most iconic characters in the series and he's the protagonist of maybe the most acclaimed of the games; he'd have to be mad not to at least consider the idea. Just because Takamaru was considered doesn't mean that Sakurai's latest decision to exclude him for being Japan-only doesn't hold weight.

Again, the fact that he gave it some thought, and had a solid, logical reason to include the main character first, and one that applies to most other franchises, I think makes the "rule" more of a safe bet.

Would they not have to pay royalties for Spirits and Mii Costumes?
Also, Nintendo has to pay royalties for ALL characters. Even characters that they own fully like Mario, they have to pay Miyamoto his creation royalties, Charles Martinet his voice royalties, Koji Kondo his music royalties, etc, etc, etc.

Uh, I don't think that's how it works. Companies generally own the products their employees make.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You won't get very far trying to convince people Alucard isn't a protagonist within his series. Let alone one of the two most notable.

I mean, this doesn't disprove the point you think it does.

You keep going on about how Smash fans go "Well, of course they did this, it's super obvious!" in hindsight yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone on this site suggest Alucard until we knew he was considered. It was always Simon, a composite character referencing all the other Belmonts, or Trevor due to the Netflix show giving him a lot more popularity. If you want we can check Alucard support threads in the Brawl or Smash 4 era and compare them to their Belmont equivelants too

 

[Ben Holt]

Let’s be fair here, any spirit board additions from around November (when FP2 was decided) onward should be taken as deconfirmations. Why add spirits to a series that would just end up getting spirits added anyway, it’s redundant. Anything before then should be fair game. I’m not saying it’s a rule that the spirit board instant deconfirms, it just makes sense

I largely agree, but the cutoff point is ambiguous.

And on topic of how Sakurai chooses characters, I remember an interview from Smash 4 when Sakurai said that Square Enix wanted to promote Noctis, but Sakurai and Nintendo wanted Cloud.

Funnily enough, the one semi-exception to this rule of posterboys first, Hero's default skin is Eleven despite Erdrick being the Cloud of Dragon Quest.
The old interview I alluded to may explain that. Square Enix wanted to Promote Eleven, so they made him the default costume. Even Kirby's Hero Hat and Sword are Erdrick's, implying that Erdrick may have originally been intended to be the default Hero.

 

[MisterHollywood]

N3ON has a good point, but aside from that, I wouldn't give that much weight to Sakurai considering him. He was apparently the most voted Castlevania character on the ballot, he's one of the most iconic characters in the series and he's the protagonist of maybe the most acclaimed of the games; he'd have to be mad not to at least consider the idea. Just because Takamaru was considered doesn't mean that Sakurai's latest decision to exclude him for being Japan-only doesn't hold weight.

Again, the fact that he gave it some thought, and had a solid, logical reason to include the main character first, and one that applies to most other franchises, I think makes the "rule" more of a safe bet.


Uh, I don't think that's how it works. Companies generally own the products their employees make.

Idk how to properly embed a link so imma just toss it in like this
https://mobile.twitter.com/allsourcegaming/status/1074584068291944448

Sakurai didn’t pick Simon and Richter cuz they were the “main characters”, he just thought the fans would prefer playing as these two, and I remember him saying something like Alucard doesn’t use the whip and he thinks that the whip is too iconic to not include

 

[Cutie Gwen]

N3ON has a good point, but aside from that, I wouldn't give that much weight to Sakurai considering him. He was apparently the most voted Castlevania character on the ballot, he's one of the most iconic characters in the series and he's the protagonist of maybe the most acclaimed of the games; he'd have to be mad not to at least consider the idea. Just because Takamaru was considered doesn't mean that Sakurai's latest decision to exclude him for being Japan-only doesn't hold weight.

Again, the fact that he gave it some thought, and had a solid, logical reason to include the main character first, and one that applies to most other franchises, I think makes the "rule" more of a safe bet.


Uh, I don't think that's how it works. Companies generally own the products their employees make.

Idk with the way people throw "Protagonist first!" for saying "Hey maybe it won't be Spring Man" gives me the idea people don't consider other options regardless of popularity much.


Actually that depends, Square's infamous for letting people hold rights to what they worked on as seen with why FF's representation is significantly below standard, especially as Cloud's the only fighter who doesn't have his original artwork available on the Spirit Collection. And I may be wrong on this, but I remember hearing PSABR had to take royalties in account for their first party stuff

 

[Ben Holt]

You keep going on about how Smash fans go "Well, of course they did this, it's super obvious!" in hindsight yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone on this site suggest Alucard until we knew he was considered. It was always Simon, a composite character referencing all the other Belmonts, or Trevor due to the Netflix show giving him a lot more popularity. If you want we can check Alucard support threads in the Brawl or Smash 4 era and compare them to their Belmont equivelants too

I am surprised that Simon didn't get alts for Richter, Trevor, John, and Gabriel, and they're all whip slinging Belmonts (except John's not a Belmont, but still a whip slinger).
I'm also surprised that Simon's modern redhaired design wasn't used, much less even an alternate costume.

 

[N3ON]

You keep going on about how Smash fans go "Well, of course they did this, it's super obvious!" in hindsight yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone on this site suggest Alucard until we knew he was considered. It was always Simon, a composite character referencing all the other Belmonts, or Trevor due to the Netflix show giving him a lot more popularity. If you want we can check Alucard support threads in the Brawl or Smash 4 era and compare them to their Belmont equivelants too

That's a total pivot from your original point, which was trying to disprove the notion of "protagonists/mascots first", which Alucard doesn't do. And yes, his inclusion probably would've blind-sided people, but up until this very quote, that wasn't the topic at hand.

I mean, had we got Alucard instead of what we did, you must realize that the tenet you're aiming to dispel would still be invoked, and therefore the example doesn't work. Alucard wouldn't have invalidated it.

 

[RawstyleEevee]

I do gotta ask, What makes Pokemon exempt from the Spirit Board Deconfirmation?

I understand not every gen 8 pokemon is on Board, or even the evolutions, but I don't think that means we getting Gen 8 Pokemon. there some weird Spirit exclusions already to my knowledge.

Plus the Spirit board wasn't just a 1 and done, it came back sometime in Febuaury of this year too.

and I'm not a Spirits deconfirm person, But it seems with the timing and intent of the Spirit board, perhaps Gen 8 Pokemon might not be on the menu

Pokemon always was a rule breaker when it came to Smash Bros, plus Three Houses and Arms already show that spirit boards can be from repped franchises. (For example while Jill Valentine could be out, Resident Evil could still happen with a playable Nemesis and the rest of the spirit board are the RE Monsters (Zombie, Crimson Head, Licker, Hunter, Tyrant, Las Plagas etc.)) and its also not impossible they could move up basegame spirits to fill up the spirit board either but we need to see what happens to the base game Arms spirits to confirm this.

Anyway back to Pokemon, I feel the spirit event also was planned before fighter pass was decided, with the goal to just promote Gen 8, but plans can obviously change and just like my Resident Evil example its even easier to create a Gen 8 spirit boards

Gen 8 Spirit board example
The 3 fully evolved starters with upgradeable Gigantamax forms
Kubfu thats upgradeable to Urishifu
Wooloo
Toxtricity
that Green Deer Mythical
Zarude
Galarian forms in general

 

[Ben Holt]

Speaking of Alucard, assuming he's not a DLC Fighter, he'd be a pretty cool Mii Swordfighter costume.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That's a total pivot from your original point, which was trying to disprove the notion of "protagonists/mascots first", which Alucard doesn't do. And yes, his inclusion probably would've blind-sided people, but up until this very quote, that wasn't the topic at hand.

I mean, had we got Alucard instead of what we did, you must realize that the tenet you're aiming to dispel would still be invoked, and therefore the example doesn't work. Alucard wouldn't have invalidated it.

I really fail to see the point here, this is like saying Nero in DMC is actually not farfetched as he's the protagonist in 4 and 5 despite Dante being infinitely more iconic. My point is that when people thought of Castlevania, we only imagined whippy dudes who can't jump properly, we considered the guy who was the main protagonist in more games than Alucard was, Belmont's the one they put in Super Bomberman R first, Alucard had to wait an entire year after Belmont was added. Adding Tails over Sonic is actially super logical because Tails was the protag in a few games and wouldn't dispell it right?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Even if the ARMS rep isn't Spring Man, would that really raise the chances of another non-protagonist being chosen? I mean Nintendo is picking these characters out and they're more than likely going to choose the protagonist because they're either the only characters you play as in a game or are the best choice for beginners. It gives players a familiar character to play as. Not only that but lots of protagonists are prominently featured on promotional material, front and center even so it doesn't make much sense to include a non-protagonist over a protagonist unless there is specific reason for it.

One fan rule I wanna see broken is the "one character (plus MAYBE an Echo Fighter) per 3rd Party series". Personally, I want the floodgates opened for Sonic characters, but Alucard is also a character I really want playable. I'm still a 90s kid.

Sonic suffers from a unique problem. Sega/Sonic Team is very strict with how other companies handle Sonic. You only need to look into the development of Sonic Boom rise of lyric to see that and how they gave Big Red Button a list of changes for them to make because they weren't happy with how they portrayed Sonic. It's probably why we won't see other Sonic characters become playable.

 

[N3ON]

I really fail to see the point here, this is like saying Nero in DMC is actually not farfetched as he's the protagonist in 4 and 5 despite Dante being infinitely more iconic. My point is that when people thought of Castlevania, we only imagined whippy dudes who can't jump properly, we considered the guy who was the main protagonist in more games than Alucard was, Belmont's the one they put in Super Bomberman R first, Alucard had to wait an entire year after Belmont was added. Adding Tails over Sonic is actially super logical because Tails was the protag in a few games and wouldn't dispell it right?

Just because you raise ill-fitting comparisons doesn't mean it's going to make people forget about series like Resident Evil, Tales, Assassin's Creed, Fire Emblem, and others which function much more similarly to Castlevania whereby there are multiple protagonists who reside in the top billing.

I know you seem to think otherwise, but structure isn't a monolith - there can be more than a single protagonist in the upper ranks of the series. People expecting Simon over Alucard doesn't make that untrue.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

F
The old interview I alluded to may explain that. Square Enix wanted to Promote Eleven, so they made him the default costume. Even Kirby's Hero Hat and Sword are Erdrick's, implying that Erdrick may have originally been intended to be the default Hero.

Those are both Eleven's sword and circlet from his own game.. The circlet is from Erdwin, who is pretty obviously based upon Erdrick to begin with. The sword is the weirder part, since it's kind of unclear if it's literally Erdrick's Sword as well or if it's meant to resemble the same backstory of it since Erdwin is based literally on Edrick backstory-wise. Both are legendary heroes of their respective stories(Erdrick for Dragon Quest 1 and 2 in his case, and Dragon Quest XI in Erdwin's specifically).

https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/5/5f/DragonQuestIIIRender.png/600px-DragonQuestIIIRender.png This is Erdrick's Circlet, which is a slightly different shape from the one Kirby wears. https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/thumb/9/90/SSBU_Hero_Kirby.jpg/800px-SSBU_Hero_Kirby.jpg But there's definitely a difference if you look at them more closely. The Supreme Sword of Light and Erdwin's Shield also closely resemble the weapons Erdrick carries. It seems inconsistent if it's literally the same sword Edrick carried or not, Or just resembles it. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20191026230618 but for the case of Erdwin's circlet, it's definitely not the same as Erdrick's. Just blatantly inspired by it.

The only notable thing for Erdrick is a slightly cooler Boxing Ring Title, but they're all accurate titles as is per the specific alt, so it's not even as special as it seems. Pretty much everything is 11. Sakurai did however plan Erdrick and Eleven as specific alts(and wasn't super clear and who was going to be the core costume) even during base. It could've gone either way for who was the base costume as is. There's no real way to tell either. Nothing actually points towards Erdrick besides us knowing that Sakurai really liked III. Everything else is related to XI or is rather neutral information-wise at best.

You should link that interview, cause I don't remember at any point that he stated who had to be the base costume and why. It's also hard to remember the details of it as is. Other than "these two characters were intended as alts and for base game" is fairly neutral as a statement and the easiest bit to remember.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Just because you raise ill-fitting comparisons doesn't mean it's going to make people forget about series like Resident Evil, Tales, Assassin's Creed, Fire Emblem, and others which function much more similarly to Castlevania whereby there are multiple protagonists who reside in the top billing.

I know you seem to think otherwise, but structure isn't a monolith - there can be more than a single protagonist in the upper ranks of the series. People expecting Simon over Alucard doesn't make that untrue.

So because Alucard only got front billing literally once in a crossover and was playable in 3 mainline games, only one of which he's the protagonist, that's equal to all the times Simon got front billing in the maingames, the other CV crossover, the Bomberman crossover, the platform fighter with Optimus Prime, meaning Alucard's aa much of a mascot. Ok, glad that we established that Simon getting front billing in literally every example but one means that Alucard's the exact same in terms of being a CV mascot. Thank you for this wisdom, we're going to get Nero in Smash over Dante and it'll be super obvious Nero's as iconic as Dante

 

[Ben Holt]

You should link that interview, cause I don't remember at any point that he stated who had to be the base costume and why. It's also hard to remember the details of it as is. Other than "these two characters were intended as alts and for base game" is fairly neutral as a statement and the easiest bit to remember.

The interview I was referring to was the one where Square Enix wanted Noctis instead of Cloud, as they wanted to promote Final Fantasy 15.
It was my own speculation that Square Enix's attitude was the same in Ultimate, leading to Eleven being the default Hero instead of Erdrick.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The interview I was referring to was the one where Square Enix wanted Noctis instead of Cloud, as they wanted to promote Final Fantasy 15.
It was my own speculation that Square Enix's attitude was the same in Ultimate, leading to Eleven being the default Hero instead of Erdrick.

Ah.

Well, either way, we have really nothing to base it upon anyway as there's no actual signs Erdrick was going to ever be a base costume.

 

[Mamboo07]

Me: "A tasty little snack..."

Kirby: "A tasty little snack indeed!"

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The interview I was referring to was the one where Square Enix wanted Noctis instead of Cloud, as they wanted to promote Final Fantasy 15.
It was my own speculation that Square Enix's attitude was the same in Ultimate, leading to Eleven being the default Hero instead of Erdrick.

Where are you getting this from?
http://sourcegaming.info/2016/01/20/sakurai-x-nomura-creator-interview-2016-part-one/#more-5563

Nomura: When we first talked, I asked “are you sure you’re okay with Cloud?” He’s not a character from a new game, after all.


Nomura expected Sakurai to ask a more recent character, Noctis's game wouldn't even come out for another year by the time people could buy Cloud and nothing mentions Square wanting Sakurai to choose someone else and Noctis isn't even named

 

[I.D.]

You won't get very far trying to convince people Alucard isn't a protagonist within his series. Let alone one of the two most notable.

Why not? Alucard was the main protagonist in one game out of like two dozen. The series obviously revolves a lot more around the Belmont family than it does around this one character.

 

[HansShotFirst20]

Why not? Alucard was the main protagonist in one game out of like two dozen. The series obviously revolves a lot more around the Belmont family than it does around this one character.

Except that one game out of the series was Symphony of the Night -- the most popular, iconic, and debatably the best Castlevania game. There's a reason SotN is the game that gets constant rereleases and ports, and why the Netflixvania series focuses way more on Alucard even though Trevor was the main protagonist of Castlevania 3.

SotN was the game that informed the current direction of the series -- all Castlevania games and media since SotN owe more to it that they do anything that came before.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Except that one game out of the series was Symphony of the Night -- the most popular, iconic, and debatably the best Castlevania game. There's a reason SotN is the game that gets constant rereleases and ports, and why the Netflixvania series focuses way more on Alucard even though Trevor was the main protagonist of Castlevania 3.

SotN was the game that informed the current direction of the series -- all Castlevania games and media since SotN owe more to it that they do anything that came before.

I've yet to see season 3 but I'd hardly say the first two seasons had that much more focus on Alucard over Trevor, who developed, gave us insight to his family history and got a relationship. Not to mention that while SotN gets rereleased a lot, it doesn't gets rereleased as often as the classics

 

[I.D.]

Except that one game out of the series was Symphony of the Night -- the most popular, iconic, and debatably the best Castlevania game.

So what you are saying is... these attributes might have given an edge to Alucard despite not being the main focus of the Castlevania series compared to the Belmonts? Hmmm really makes one think

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Me: "A tasty little snack..."

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Kirby: "A tasty little snack indeed!"

Fake. The real Kirby would have finished the plate. And by that I mean he would have eaten the plate and everything on it, and then proceed to eat everyone else's food.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Btw considering how bad Nintendo **** is leaking now, I wonder if someone will leak their current plans instead of source codes.


Also I may or may not have identified FP7. Who are they? Well...

Spoiler

SONICFOX COMES OUT FOR A FIGHT!

10/10 would pop off

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Btw considering how bad Nintendo **** is leaking now, I wonder if someone will leak their current plans instead of source codes.


Also I may or may not have identified FP7. Who are they? Well...

Spoiler

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SONICFOX COMES OUT FOR A FIGHT!

10/10 would pop off

He's from that hot new game: EVO with lag!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

May have been already posted but here’s Sakurai’s POTD

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The difference is clear. ClearEyes. W O W.