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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Bombs are fire according to the game as seen with Fire/Explosion Resist
It's a bit weird with the Explosion classification since Fire is an active property while explosive is a passive one. Mainly because explosive items automatically explode if hit by fire.

Hell it's literally the only thing separating Simon from Richter gameplay-wise.
 

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I thought it was because Simon, a good Christian, can't allow Link to sully his internet history any further
Simon would burn anything technological because it hurts his 1690s Catholic brain
 

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Every time I have to see someone post their support for Neku, I have to like and give respect to them. That game changed my life.

If he got in, how would you want his reveal trailer to go?
Twister Remix playing + the cinematic animated in the TWEWY style. And Inkling (and if they’re confirmed, Octoling) have to be in there somewhere
 

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Here's an interesting question regarding who could be DLC of FP2. Given Terry was probably an Sakurai pick being an fan of SNK notably King of Fighters. What other franchises do you guys know of that Sakurai is a fan of? Could give us an idea who might be among the remaining six if we get another like Terry.
 

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I know how Smash classifies bombs, but is anyone really gonna argue that Snake's moveset has too much fire in it?
No, but I can argue that giving Snake more diversity in his weapon arsenal would be useful. Not asking for him to get an assault rifle, but something like a tranq gun in PM would be useful.

Given Terry was probably an Sakurai pick being an fan of SNK notably King of Fighters.
Well cite your sources before you give us a prompt.
 
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Here's an interesting question regarding who could be DLC of FP2. Given Terry was probably an Sakurai pick being an fan of SNK notably King of Fighters. What other franchises do you guys know of that Sakurai is a fan of? Could give us an idea who might be among the remaining six if we get another like Terry.
Please bro Sakurai plays like 600 games a year, he probably liked at least 400 of them
 

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What are some characters you don't want in Smash that other people fiercly do, and some that you want that others would disagree or shoot down? Unpopular opinions time
If I had to be honest, I'm pretty indifferent about Minecraft Steve. I'm not against him, I'm just not really excited about him.

Phoenix Wright is all I want. I understand he's not generally the first pick for the next Capcom rep but I think he has a shot.
 
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What are some characters you don't want in Smash that other people fiercly do, and some that you want that others would disagree or shoot down? Unpopular opinions time
Goku. Even after Sakurai deconfirmed him, Iron Man and other non-gaming characters. I can't understand the appeal and reason why folks wants him in just because he's popular and what makes him stand out from others.
 

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Twister Remix playing + the cinematic animated in the TWEWY style. And Inkling (and if they’re confirmed, Octoling) have to be in there somewhere
I always imagined it would be him waking up at 104. Looking at his hand to check if he has a timer (only to be surprised there is none). And the standard "You have seven days remaining" message would play on the screen of the building.

The reaper emblem would show up on the screen, but then it glitches out into a Smash symbol. And then Inklings/Joker appear to fight him (like the noise in TWEWY). At which point we'll go into a gameplay trailer.

It takes from the opening of the first game, and makes you think we're getting a sequel and then BAM Neku is in Smash.
 
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Some of the attacks have a flame-like animation, but grouping them with other characters who use fire seems forced.

I also think bombs are kind of a stretch too.
It looks like fire, acts like fire, it pretty much is fire unless you told someone otherwise--at least in Smash.
 

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Goku. Even after Sakurai deconfirmed him, Iron Man and other non-gaming characters. I can't understand the appeal and reason why folks wants him in just because he's popular and what makes him stand out from others.
I don't want him but let's be real, Goku would be fun as ****
He'd probably be broken tbh
 

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Goku. Even after Sakurai deconfirmed him, Iron Man and other non-gaming characters. I can't understand the appeal and reason why folks wants him in just because he's popular and what makes him stand out from others.
Because DBZ was everyone's childhood? Be real for a sec, imagine if Godzilla was FP6, would you be even remotely upset?
 
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I know how Smash classifies bombs, but is anyone really gonna argue that Snake's moveset has too much fire in it?
That is highly dependent on if you took my parody of the "too many swords" argument as a serious declaration that Smash has too much fire.
 

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Goku. Even after Sakurai deconfirmed him, Iron Man and other non-gaming characters. I can't understand the appeal and reason why folks wants him in just because he's popular and what makes him stand out from others.
I don't really want Goku in either. But I might as well enjoy him while he's there if he got in.
 
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The only good Goku is Kid Goku. And I'm not talking about the GT Goku who got transformed into a Kid. No, I'm talking about the OG Goku.

Give him power pole, give him the flying Nimbus, make Kamehameha his neutral B and make the Oozaru or his great ape fist his final smash. Screw fighterZ for giving us every Goku BUT Kid Goku.

That said Goku isn't ever getting into Smash.
 
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The only good Goku is Kid Goku.
I disagree, Goku's peak is right around before Super Saiyan was just a meme form and actually powerful, something like Base or SSJ in FighterZ.

Teen Gohan is the peak of the entire character before he enters jobber junction though

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It's a shame the Buu saga was such ass.
 
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What are some characters you don't want in Smash that other people fiercly do, and some that you want that others would disagree or shoot down? Unpopular opinions time
Sora. He'd probably be a fun character but let's be real in the 1% chance he makes it. We know we can expect nothing to come with him right? Square has already proven their stinginess twice and now were factoring Disney in the mix a company that tried to sued a school for showing its students The Lion King. Yeah expect no English voice, 1 song, 1 spirit (Sora), and nothing else.

Also Rex and that's just because nobody really cares about him. They just want Pyra/Mythra. That's why you see so many people rooting for Solo Pyra (something that doesn't even exist in XB2) but a Solo Rex is 10000% unacceptable. It doesn't help that Rex and Pyra honestly have the most boring toolkit amongst all of Alrest. Pretty any character from XB2 would have a more interesting toolkit while also having the blade/driver mechanics.
 

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Idk man Dragon Quest had a **** ton of demand from Japan for god knows how long, is the ultimate granddaddy of JRPGs and was a major influence on games like Zelda, had a Halo 3 tier launch, had Smash include the Western fanfav and Boomer fanfav, had the alt colour for the Luminary be a reference to 8 instead of 11, all that and more makes it impossible for me to consider Hero a shill pick of a port
It's not like a character inclusion can have multiple purposes. Nope, it's impossible to think that Hero's inclusion was to cater to the Japanese audience while promoting the series in the west. Obviously it can only be one reason and one reason only.
 

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The only good Goku is Kid Goku. And I'm not talking about the GT Goku who got transformed into a Kid. No, I'm talking about the OG Goku.

Give him power pole, give him the flying Nimbus, make Kamehameha his neutral B and make the Oozaru or his great ape fist his final smash. Screw fighterZ for giving us every Goku BUT Kid Goku.

That said Goku isn't ever getting into Smash.
IMO both would bring something unique, but if I had to choose I'd go for the original Kid Goku as well.
Adult Goku I think would be a more flashed out mewtwo with the "super form" gimmick and martial arts in his neutrals, Kid Goku on the other hand has a few things that could make him more unique.

But if I had to chose an anime character i'd either chose Eren from Attack on Titan (for the same reason I want Hornet in Smash, grappling hook based moveset), or Nike & Kukuri as an Ice Climbers-like duo (from Mahoujin Guruguru) with the ugly old man dancer as an assist trophy (because they would be incredibly hilarious).
 
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Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai ends Smash Ultimate on something obscenely crazy like Goku in Smash. A random fan even made a well done render celebrating the idea.

 

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What would Soras final smash be if he got intonl smash
KH3 spoiler time:
That thing that happens in the Keyblade graveyard when the spirits of the mobile game's players jump in and help Sora and Sora takes control of 1000's of Keyblades, punishing his enemies from above like Lucarios Kamehameha only with swords.
 
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