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Because Gen 1 sells.
>PUBG is on this list
I just looked up the fate and realized that I had played the first one, I never really got far in it but that game was fun it would be definitely cool to have him in smash, I now just wish he got in instead of byleth.
Yeah, but variety is nice too. 90's nostalgia shouldn't be the only reason why lovers of the other generations can't have nice things.
Just so long as they pick the Pokémon based off of how cool they'd be in the game rather than which one they think'd be the hot new starter.
So has literally every other gen with that recent official poll having non gen 1 as the official top 3 most popular Pokemon of all time, yet for some reason gen 1 always gets the special treatment, which is the issue people have with it
They push Gen 1 because nostalgia, and if Lucario or Incineroar debuted in Gen 1 they'd probably be the Mewtwo or Charizard of the time, but no, nostalgia sells, so they push nostalgia more, perpetuating the cycle of Gen 1 becoming more and more stagnant to the point where a Gen 1 starter is the ACE for the most recent Champion in a different region!
theres a reason i wasnt in infinity war or endgame and thats because if i was id have beaten thanos instantly
I disagree:
That's easy. You just press the take picture button.
Calm down, Galeem.
Most of those I agree with, but Puff is just carried through because she was in the first game, so she's getting special treatment for no reason. She was even considered for being cut in Brawl, so she's absolutely not stable as far as her inclusion goes.
B-b-but I need Gengar playable in Smash. You can't NOT put in the best pokemon.
Oh... “variety”.
My dude, people are even tired of Gen 1 in the main games. It's a problem in the main series and it's a problem in Smash. And of course different Pokemon will have different movesets, that's a given... unless you're Pichu.
Ah, I knew that Nintendo and Sakurai were serious about the "New Worlds" stuff.
It ain't just the remakes. Pokemon GO got off to a massive start partly because it was really reminiscient of Gen 1. Sure, it's bigger now than it was back in mid-2016, but it was telling that suddenly Pokemon was getting that same level of attention as it got back during the G1 days. And as with any really impactful Gen 1 (Transformers being another example) Pokemon's very pop culture image doesn't really shift amongst a lot of people. No Pokemon song has overtaken "Gotta Catch 'Em All" and the main game theme (for most people) despite the former having been retired for 20 years now.
>Implying Incineroar is anywhere near as cool as Charizard.
True, although if you count SwSh's DLC as separate to the main game, we could get a DLC exclusive Pokemon. We won't get a Gen 8 Pokemon from the main game since SwSh already had its Spirit event.
Well *I* disagree with *you*.
How so? We got a very limited selection of Sword and Shield spirits. Not even the starter evolutions made it in, which are the ones Sakurai likes to use. If they wanted to add even more Sword and Shield spirits, like Gen 8 trainers or Pokemon they missed, they're more than welcome to.
Gee it's almost like this is exactly why gen 1 gets criticized for overexposure while every other gen gets pushed aside due to getting 2 remakes and being the only ones available in GO for the longest time
They kept back Three Houses Spirits to release them with Byleth. If they were going to add a Gen 8 Pokemon, they would've done the same with SwSh, but they didn't do that.
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*smiles, nods, and backs away*
I'm going to keep in mind that they always use the final stage of the evolution line for Smash and we got the base forms in spirit form so we could still get the final forms later down the line.
But you see, none of this disproves my point. Only 4 spirits, none of them were the Starter Evolutions (which are the ones that are actually made into characters), and even then we can still get gym leaders and the rivals for spirits.
There you go. That’s why Gen 1 sells. You said it yourself.
Actually, the Tetris Spirit Event had 5 spirits.
There's a massive disconnect between you and the people you are talking to. Nobody is saying Gen 1 doesn't sell. They're saying they hate it and it's oversaturated. That's the point people bring up. I don't know what the hell you're proving here by saying it sells well.
I think there's a lot of Gen 2 and 3 pokes that constantly get ignored that would be freaking awesome in Smash and have a great variation in movesets. A few that come to mind are:
I'm not saying I hate it!
Incidentally, all of them except Umbreon are playable in Pokkén Tournament. My point? There isn't one. I just say things most of the time.
^You know like those guys up there.^
People hate Gen 1. And yet... Gen 1 sells.
Precisely why I got Pokken DX.
Sceptile is a sexy beast in that game. Though, I would prefer them in Smash since I just generally like the game/mechanics better than Pokken.Where did anybody in this thread say that Gen 1 was objectively bad or that it didn't sell well? Quote for me the exact post.
Here's the thing that the Pokemon fandom learned the hard way:
A lot of Gen II mons were intended for Gen 1 but cut. That's why they have similar designs.
You can stop being disingenuous now.
