Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[N3ON]

Guess we’d have to stay in the safe zone then

I have a feeling this is a Fortnite reference I don't understand.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I have a feeling this is a Fortnite reference I don't understand.

The storm is the part of the arena that deals continuous damage to players. It's there to keep players interacting with each other even though the map is ginormous, and also to vary up the locations players interact with even though there's only one map.

 

[N3ON]

The storm is the part of the arena that deals continuous damage to players. It's there to keep players interacting with each other even though the map is ginormous, and also to vary up the locations players interact with even though there's only one map.

at which point do i get to do the carlton dance

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

That is a lie! No one can stop the p!
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Dread it. Run from it. It is coming for you.

LOL, I meant to say that if there really was a Five Nights at Freddy's Mii Costume, I would stop playing the game for a week or two. I don't want nightmare fuel like that in my Smash game.

 

[Hikraki]

All I want is Itsuki from Mirage Sessions as a Joker echo

 

[Door Key Pig]

So who do you all think are our frontrunners for Nintendo fighters in FP2?

 

[wynn728]

Well, who exactly do you want anyway? Let alone for a Spirit event, but not something more substantial like a character? It should be kind of blessing in disguise no newer series people have been asking for got the Spirit treatment. Cause I'll admit to not caring about Warframe. But it's better than ruling out something like Crash or No More Heroes.

Though really, even a series like this getting mentioned is kind of neat, despite my lack of interest in it.

I literally want no one as a Spirit Event. Spirits are so meaningless, they're something that I could get through Google Image. I spend more time trying to find the characters on the Spirit Board than I do actually fighting them. I believe I spend less then 10 minutes fighting every single Spirit Event combine together. It's just padding and a really uninteresting way of adding characters just to say they're in Ultimate. Right now Spirits are just feeling like Ready Player One cameos, plus it does start feeling like Nintendo is just wasting a bunch of money just to acquire these PNG pictures.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I literally want no one as a Spirit Event. Spirits are so meaningless, they're something that I could get through Google Image. I spend more time trying to find the characters on the Spirit Board than I do actually fighting them. I believe I spend less then 10 minutes fighting every single Spirit Event combine together. It's just padding and a really uninteresting way of adding characters just to say they're in Ultimate. Right now Spirits are just feeling like Ready Player One cameos, plus it does start feeling like Nintendo is just wasting a bunch of money just to acquire these PNG pictures.

The menu time required to do so alone would take longer than 10 minutes. Everything else you said is a valid criticism.

 

[Megadoomer]

So who do you all think are our frontrunners for Nintendo fighters in FP2?

Hard to say; I'd like to think that a Xenoblade character is likely, though I figure we'll either get a blatant promotional pick or a character who proved to be unexpectedly or consistently popular during the build-up of the first Fighters Pass. (I'm expecting the former, given that Roy, Corrin, and to a much lesser extent Byleth all got into Smash for that reason, but I figure that the second Fighters Pass was, at least in part, made for the second reason)

As for something specific, I'm hoping for Elma, expecting someone like Rillaboom (Baboom? The final evolution of the grass starter from Sword/Shield - any of the starters could probably work, since I know very little about them) for a promotional pick, and expecting someone like Bandanna Waddle Dee if they're going for Nintendo characters with consistent fan demand.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I hope we get a Panzer Dragoon Spirit.

Speaking of which, I wonder how the remake is coming along on the Switch. They said it was coming in Winter, but Winter is officially over by March 20th, so hopefully we'll get something soon.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Rillaboom (Baboom?

Baboom is a meme. So is the idea that they'd pick the grass starter just to have one.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

All I want is Itsuki from Mirage Sessions as a Joker echo

Couldn't we have Violet for that position too?

 

[Ridrool64]

So who do you all think are our frontrunners for Nintendo fighters in FP2?

I'm gonna make two sets of predictions.

Base game content can and will be promoted: Waluigi takes this easily. Beyond that, I can see Paper Mario, a Galarian Pokémon (such as Cinderace, Rillaboom or Toxtricity), some form of Xenoblade representative, likely Elma or Rook, and Bandana Waddle Dee as major candidates, with an honorable mention going to Isaac who would be in Waluigi's shoes if there was more demand for him than Waluigi. As it stands, all of them promote either confirmed or potential upcoming releases (say, a new Super Mario title, a Kirby title, a potential Paper Mario game, Xenoblade DE, or SwSh DLC) and they'd be in Nintendo's best interests due to their popularity.

Only games without content will get Challenger Packs in the future: We're still getting a Galarian Pokémon, except it'll probably be Urshifu. I could see a Breath of the Wild 2 character maybe worming their way in? Aside from that, unless new characters are introduced from potential releases, Nintendo is tapped out since Byleth happened and Howard got Spirited away.

 

[N3ON]

I spend more time trying to find the characters on the Spirit Board than I do actually fighting them.

The menu time required to do so alone would take longer than 10 minutes. Everything else you said is a valid criticism.

You do know that after fighting an event spirit you can just use the 'refill' item thing to just summon the next, right? So long as you aren't changing your spirits every round, the menus take almost no time at all.

plus it does start feeling like Nintendo is just wasting a bunch of money just to acquire these PNG pictures.

Unless you're a shareholder this really shouldn't matter. "Nintendo is wasting their money" is the maxim of either fanboys who don't understand that Nintendo's margins aren't their concern, or people who are just looking to rattle off every conceivable negative about something they don't like, even when it doesn't actually affect them.

 

[Garteam]

Dang, Warbutt got a spirit in Smash.

Of course, it never would've happened like that in Warbutt, as the game is real life and if you did in the game you become a spirit in real life.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Oddity in Sakurai's pic of the day

pic.twitter.com/NFqWkbYcUF

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 26, 2020

That's Smash 4's battlefield.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

You do know that after fighting an event spirit you can just use the 'refill' item thing to just summon the next, right? So long as you aren't changing your spirits every round, the menus take almost no time at all.

I wasn't trying to imply that they were clunky or anything. I didn't know you could jump from one fight to the next without much menu interaction though.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Maybe this is just a very early Smash build or something.

Or perhaps 8.0.0 will allow us to change Battlefield or FD versions.

 

[MagnesD3]

So who do you all think are our frontrunners for Nintendo fighters in FP2?

Sylux and Porky because of the missing spirits and poke 8 to promote dlc or whatever

 

[AceAttorney9000]

Maybe this is just a very early Smash build or something.

Or perhaps 8.0.0 will allow us to change Battlefield or FD versions.

Not gonna lie, I would love it if the Battlefield and Final Destination stages from previous games were brought back, either as separate stages, or as just toggle-able versions of the current ones in Ultimate.

 

[P.Kat]

So who do you all think are our frontrunners for Nintendo fighters in FP2?

I think Elma has a good chance.

 

[pinshadow]

I think Elma has a good chance.

Why? Her game isn't getting ported anytime soon due to Monolith working on the Xenoblade remake, and Rex was clearly the more popular choice anyway given that Sakurai bothered to give him a costume and specifically call him out as a character he would have probably put in if he had more development time. I'm all for more Xenoblade representation, but how exactly does Elma have a good chance?

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Oddity in Sakurai's pic of the day

pic.twitter.com/NFqWkbYcUF

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 26, 2020

That's Smash 4's battlefield.

DLC stages accidentally confirmed?

 

[Deleted member]

Dough Bowser: SAKURAIIIIIIII!

Sakurai: Mr. Bowser! I was just... Posting a PotD on my Twitter feed! Old Smash 4 tradition! Care to join me?

Bowser: Why is Smash 4 Battlefield on a Smash Ultimate pic Sakurai?

Sakurai: Oh! That isn't DLC! It's a pic of a beta build of the Game I had saved! Uuum! Beta build pics!

*Dough Bowser leaves room*

Sakurai: phew

*Sakurai keeps leaking stuff on Twitter*

 

[N3ON]

Smash 4's Battlefield would be a neat swap and all but we still need justice for Pac-Maze.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I think Elma has a good chance.

Yeah! Where's my Battlefield with day/night scaling at?

EDIT: Crap! I quoted the wrong thing!

 

[Deleted member]

Oddity in Sakurai's pic of the day

pic.twitter.com/NFqWkbYcUF

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) February 26, 2020

That's Smash 4's battlefield.

Oddly enough, my heart skipped when we thought that we are getting hints on a new character, but it turns out to be a change on an existing stage. And it's Battlefield nonetheless. That aside, I kind hope that this is a new feature that could be added.

Smash 4's Battlefield would be a neat swap and all but we still need justice for Pac-Maze.

Who knows, maybe the next patch will add new stages in the base game for free...

 

[Guynamednelson]

Dough Bowser: SAKURAIIIIIIII!

Sakurai: Mr. Bowser! I was just... Posting a PotD on my Twitter feed! Old Smash 4 tradition! Care to join me?

Bowser: Why is Smash 4 Battlefield on a Smash Ultimate pic Sakurai?

Sakurai: Oh! That isn't DLC! It's a pic of a beta build of the Game I had saved! Uuum! Beta build pics!

*Dough Bowser leaves room*

Sakurai: phew

*Sakurai keeps leaking stuff on Twitter*

"I thought that was a beta build"
"No, no, I said later build! That's what I call the classic Battlefield DLC!"

 

[Will]

DLC stages accidentally confirmed?

pay 5 dollars to play a slightly different battlefield

Dough Bowser:

i cant believe bowser is made out of dough

 

[N3ON]

I wasn't trying to imply that they were clunky or anything. I didn't know you could jump from one fight to the next without much menu interaction though.

Yeah, it really expedites the process, though it does remind me of how toothless the challenges in Ultimate are compared to the older games.

I think Elma has a good chance.

If you say so~

 

[Hadokeyblade]

All I want is Itsuki from Mirage Sessions as a Joker echo

>another Marth

Dough Bowser: SAKURAIIIIIIII!

Sakurai: Mr. Bowser! I was just... Posting a PotD on my Twitter feed! Old Smash 4 tradition! Care to join me?

Bowser: Why is Smash 4 Battlefield on a Smash Ultimate pic Sakurai?

Sakurai: Oh! That isn't DLC! It's a pic of a beta build of the Game I had saved! Uuum! Beta build pics!

*Dough Bowser leaves room*

Sakurai: phew

*Sakurai keeps leaking stuff on Twitter*

Is that a steamed hand reference?
In this time of year? In this time of day? In this part of the internet? Localized entirely in this thread?

 

[Deleted member]

I think Elma has a good chance.

Lets' just hope that Xeno1 Definitive sells well enough to prompt Monolithsoft to actually make the long-awaited XenoX remake.

 

[N3ON]

Lets' just hope that Xeno1 Definitive sells well enough to prompt Monolithsoft to actually make the long-awaited XenoX remake.

Used to be games were older than five years before their remakes were "long-awaited".

Dough Bowser: SAKURAIIIIIIII!

Sakurai: Mr. Bowser! I was just... Posting a PotD on my Twitter feed! Old Smash 4 tradition! Care to join me?

Bowser: Why is Smash 4 Battlefield on a Smash Ultimate pic Sakurai?

Sakurai: Oh! That isn't DLC! It's a pic of a beta build of the Game I had saved! Uuum! Beta build pics!

*Dough Bowser leaves room*

Sakurai: phew

*Sakurai keeps leaking stuff on Twitter*

Delightfully devilish, Sakurai.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Smash 4's Battlefield would be a neat swap and all but we still need justice for Pac-Maze.

The stage can come with the Ms. Pac-Man echo fighter we should have gotten a while ago.

 

[ZelDan]

Elma is cool and a character I would like to see be playable. I don't really see why people think she's likely though when XCX wasn't exactly successful and when there probably isn't a XCX port or remake happening anytime in the near future due to the XC: DE already being a thing. I guess there could be a sequel to XCX (the first game did end on a cliffhanger), but that's not something I would make bets on.

 

[pinshadow]

Elma is cool and a character I would like to see be playable. I don't really see why people think she's likely though when XCX wasn't exactly successful and when there probably isn't a XCX port or remake happening anytime in the near future due to the XC: DE already being a thing. I guess there could be a sequel to XCX (the first game did end on a cliffhanger), but that's not something I would make bets on.

I mean, Xeno games having unresolved plots and cliffhangers isn't exactly a new thing *COUGH*Xenogears*COUGH*

 

[Deleted member]

Elma is cool and a character I would like to see be playable. I don't really see why people think she's likely though when XCX wasn't exactly successful and when there probably isn't a XCX port or remake happening anytime in the near future due to the XC: DE already being a thing. I guess there could be a sequel to XCX (the first game did end on a cliffhanger), but that's not something I would make bets on.

I've never played the original game (never owned a Wii U), but hey, XCX is, from what I have heard, quite amazing from. I do hope that the game does get ported to the Switch.

 

[ZelDan]

I mean, Xeno games having unresolved plots and cliffhangers isn't exactly a new thing *COUGH*Xenogears*COUGH*

Well, I certainly recognize that something having a cliffhanger doesn't necessarily guarantee a sequel too. As a Golden Sun fan I am more than aware of that fact...*remembers Dark Dawn's ending*

 

[Deleted member]

Well, I certainly recognize that something having a cliffhanger doesn't necessarily guarantee a sequel too. As a Golden Sun fan I am more than aware of that fact...*remembers Dark Dawn's ending*

*looks up when Dark Dawn is released*

10 years is overdue. Like, REAL overdue.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Baboom is a meme. So is the idea that they'd pick the grass starter just to have one.

Baboom isn't a meme, Baboom is a way of life

I think the main appeal behind Elma is how despite being a Nintendo character, she looks nothing like a Nintendo character, you know?