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Ghost Heihachi would be fun though. Also, after SFV's story mode, Capcom added Ghost M.Bison as a character, so I guess he isn't allowed to stay dead either.
Sometimes Sakurai can be weird and oddly specific when it comes to deciding what's important in a character. We know Pac-Man would've been scrapped if Sakurai couldn't get the design he wanted.
Sakurai is all about representing characters and the Assist Trophies viewed as the next best thing as being playable to him. So the characters are already in the game, why would Sakurai want to upgrade any of them when they're already represented in Smash Bros Ultimate? Sakurai would rather put in a character that isn't in Ultimate rather than a character that's an NPC in Ultimate. Sakurai already did his job with the character, he believes the fans are happy with it, so he's going to move on and focus on the ones who aren't in Ultimate.Because Sakurai has never been ok with upgrading Assist Trophies to full characters before?
I highly doubt that if Nintendo proposed making an Assist Trophy a playable character he would say no. I've been saying this for months now, the question has always been whether or not Nintendo would choose to do that, not anything else.
Why? What is so wrong with the community getting who they ask for the most? I get that you can't make everyone happy but you can make choices that make the most people happy.
I would give Hayabusa a 40% chance of making the cut for Smash.
But why would he say no if he could make them work? And he never said ATs couldn't be upgraded in the same game (he may have said something during Brawl but that was, of course, before DLC was a thing for Smash). Just because they're represented as ATs doesn't mean he wouldn't be willing to reconsider them later, as he could still hear fan demand - and it still doesn't make sense for him to say no if Nintendo wants it.
Besides, I'm pretty sure with how wild people are with their predictions, not many possible characters haven't been brought up and talked to death yet.
It probably has to do with this being the first Smash game with expanded DLC. So some see it as a chance to go back and look into things that might've been passed over before, as opposed to looking into the next game to do so years from now.
Interesting. I'm the only one who saw the part where Sakurai said Pass would talk around a year to finish, just like the first one?
Good thing you didn't mention anything about "grass starter meme" or "would be a sitting duck" comments.
Mainly personal preference. I want to be surprised by who Nintendo chose for Smash, and most of the characters I want aren't as expected or talked about anyways so I'm certainly biased on that. There isn't anything wrong with adding a character that a lot of people want, but if Vol 2 was only filled with 6 characters that almost everybody wanted/expected, it doesn't really do it for me even if it were to have Hayabusa in it. A Fighter Pass with 6 characters that most of us didn't talk about/see coming excites me more, but I don't really have a real explanation for why. There's just something special to me about that Vol 2 than the other.
I find this interesting especially in light of the recent thing with Imran and Sora. Because if his claim that Nintendo tried to get Sora once and was blocked by Disney Japan is true, it gives credence not just to Nintendo being okay with it, but also Sakurai himself, meaning they already had ideas on how to implement him.
In PushDustIn tweet Sakurai say that both him & Nintendo has to agree on the character and a character isn't canceled because of a lack of idea for them. Which means even if Sakurai can get the character to work he can still deny it if he's not on board with it. He could totally make Goku work but if Nintendo said they want him Sakurai will be Goku the boot as fast as he can. Sakurai want to include many characters in Smash Bros Ultimate, by going back and making an Assist Trophy playable means giving up on including a character who hasn't been in Smash Bros Ultimate. These Assist Trophy roles are just to say that they're in so the fans of that character can be happy. If Sakurai believes the fans are happy with that representation then why in the world would he waste 10 months on developing a character that people are already happy with when it could be apply to anyone else? Because of fan demand? No, Sakurai already knows that he can't make everyone happy, so it doesn't matter if people are actually upset that their favorite character will forever be an NPC. Knowing that he can't make everyone happy is the reason why he was fully on board with making Piranha Plant of all things playable over a character with fan demand. Sakurai knew that a lot of people knew that people weren't going to be happy with Byleth's inclusion, but he was still on board with it.
Who are you wanting exactly?
He's definitely one of the likelier characters imo, leaks or no leaks, he's always made a lot of sense for basically all the same reasons that Simon did (although there's a bit less weight on his series' legacy past the NES era, and more weight on his company's good relationship with Nintendo). My only concern is that he often comes off as a character that's probably more expected than wanted by most people, so he wouldn't exactly blow off the roof or anything. I personally want him, but I do get a feeling he might be a bit too much of a safe pick, and those characters obviously didn't fare so well in the first pass (except Byleth that is, but his inclusion obviously has no parallels to be drawn with Hayabusa).
Because other people do think he has a chance.
Those are some very interesting picks. I won’t lie, I don’t know who many of them are, but I see Travis, Hayabusa, Sol Badguy, and MY GIRL, COOKING MAMA.
no you presented bad evidence. another poster said this quote is from before smash 4 and from before the smash 4 poll, and from before when harada had a role as the head of namco. How would Harada know this? Harada is known as self promotor and a troll. He's as much a personality as he is a dev in the fgc.
We still don't know what he's thinking personally, if he sees fan demand for certain characters and decides to promote Waluigi or Isaac for example, he could still do it if Nintendo agrees and can still represent more games (even with Waluigi, some older Mario sports games and DDR aren't in Smash at all, and already-represented worlds don't even actually have the world or most music). What you're saying could also go for other forms of representation, including trophies in Smash 4. I don't see why he can't reconsider at least one or two characters between DLC seasons when he still has most spots left for 100% new worlds and has already reconsidered characters between games, including between Smash 4 and Ultimate with Ridley and whoever (Ultimate's project plan being finished not long after Smash 4 DLC ended). And they still chose Banjo and Kazooie, who got in thanks to Minecraft bridging the gap, Rare starting the talks, and Nintendo and Sakurai telling them yes.
I dont think bayonetta had a chance. Not sure why people keep predicting her.
If Sakurai was 100% like this, why would Roy be allowed to be a DLC fighter in Smash 4, with an all-new Smash-exclusive outfit and his differences with Marth being rebalanced and Luigified? He'd think Roy fans are simply satisfied with Roy-colored Marth. But nope, he went the extra mile with bringing Roy back, unlike other Melee clones who came back after Brawl.
imagine that outcry if we find out these were "fan favorites" like geno and waluigi.
Isn't Bayonetta already IN Smash? Oh wait... it's a joke.
Here's my predictions:
Because who the hell would pay for a Marth clone as standalone DLC? Roy was lucky to be a DLC character and thus have all the focus of a post-game dev cycle to focus on making him new and fresh and enticing to pick up. Pichu, Dr. Mario, Young Link, and the echoes should tell you that for as much cool tuning there is for characters in future iterations, sometimes "good enough" is "good enough."
Also why bring Lucas back when he already had a trophy, and not only that, his specials were given to Ness as custom moves? Certainly he was listening to fans.
I'm predicting two of them were Travis and Doom Guy.
Sakurai says what he personally thinks in interview and the columns he writes, he wants Ultimate to be the biggest crossover game there is. Making Waluigi playable doesn't allow them to represent more games because Waluigi is already in Ultimate; whatever game you can tie Waluigi to, like DDR or the sports game, is already accomplished because he in the game. These characters are already represented so making them playable doesn't make it any more different than besides adding a stage and a few songs. What I'm saying can be apply to other forms of representations. With the Smash 4 trophies they were made way in advance before they knew they were going to make DLC, and they already have moveset made up for them so at the time Sakurai is good with making them playable as DLC. The reason why he isn't going to reconsider upgrading Assist Trophies is because they're viewed as the next best thing to include, if Sakurai going to upgrade anything it's going to be Spirits because they're just PNGs. If an Assist Trophy gets upgraded it's going to be through another game, as of now these characters are in Ultimate and that's good enough for him.
What's that, Sakurai went the extra distance for a Fire Emblem character inclusion? It's as if Sakurai is a massive Fire Emblem fan! Of bloody course he would go the extra mile for Roy and Luigify him. He loves Fire Emblem so he'll put as much effort a character like Roy. You'll put more effort into your favorites.
Anybody from Level 5 would be a sleeper pick imo.
