Zippo
Smash Journeyman
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Only if his taunts all use some version of "Hey All"Or crush minds and blow souls
Does ScottTheWoz count or does his recreational tax dodging disqualify him?
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Only if his taunts all use some version of "Hey All"Or crush minds and blow souls
Does ScottTheWoz count or does his recreational tax dodging disqualify him?
The fact that you have to average the Hero says pretty much all you need to hear about this theory tbh. Smash considers Hero to be the newest character chronologically. You have to play by their timeline if you think they're doing this deliberately.1. Every character in the pass is older than the character that preceded them (Terry ---> Banjo ---> averaged Hero ---> Joker). The base game characters also followed a simmilar pattern, but instead chronological (Ridley ---> Simon ---> K.Rool ---> Isabelle ---> Incineroar). If the theory holds (which I see no reason as to why it wouldn't), the fifth character would have to be from the 80s - which Arle just so happens to be from.
Is this the same Sega that had their Super Monkey Ball game leak? The same one that leaked the M+S Olympic roster? The one that had their Vanquish and Bayonetta remasters leaked?2. Joker, a Sega Property, was the only third party not to be leaked. This implies Sega is good at keeping things under wraps. The secrecy of Fighter 5 could be excused by it being another Sega character.
It also works for Bubsy.3. I know how weak color theory is, but I feel it's still worth mentioning it works for Arle.
It's not up to Sega. Just like it wasn't up to SE or SNK. Sakurai even mentioned how he approached the latter two, not the other way around. We know how third-parties get added. It starts with Sakurai and Nintendo.4.. Sega seems to be trying to make Puyo Puyo more popular outside of Japan. A similar thing was happening with Dragon Quest and King of Fighters, and Smash was part of it.
By that logic Saki should have been in the game with Brawl.5. You're downplaying the SNES game quite a bit. It's a Japanese-only game, yet it's on Switch online. There are a few region-only games on NES online, but they all stayed in their region. Puyo Puyo is the sole exeption to this, and why? Maybe to increase familiarity when she comes to Smash.
Last month people were making these lists for KOS-MOS. The month before, Geno. The month before, Doom Slayer. You could make a list for any character when reaches count as valid points.Not all of these are very strong on their own, but I feel that when they're all added together that they present a very solid case.
Fair point.Arle's first game was Mado Monogatari which came out in 1989. Puyo Puyo is a spin off of that series.
This is a pretty weak point. Firstly it assumes that the leakers are leaking only through the third party channels and not through Nintendo ones. Terry for instance was not leaked through SNK, but through Nintendo's own flub, which means that ultimately SNK were better at keeping a secret then Nintendo. By your own point that should mean SNK is just as viable for the next character just as much as Sega. Secondly, it assumes that a new company isn't coming into the fold and/or said company can't keep out leakers. Theoretically it's very possible that those like Cygames, Koei Temco, and Marvelous can probably keep a secret and keep their character in their pocket just as much as Sega could. Finally, it also assumes that the other companies can't learn from previous mistakes and manage to keep their characters underwraps. Sonic was leaked before his reveal in October, yet Joker wasn't, so they learned and managed to keep their second character better hidden. Those like Namco, Capcom, and Square Enix can easily do the same, they're not bound to previous history and are doomed to fail a second/third go.2. Joker, a Sega Property, was the only third party not to be leaked. This implies Sega is good at keeping things under wraps. The secrecy of Fighter 5 could be excused by it being another Sega character.
I know, I've already posted my critique of that point. Just correcting wrong information.Fair point.
But that still doesn’t change the fact that you literally have to discard several characters/circumstances for the theory that OP suggested to even work.
Fair.I also don't know. I've never played a Yakuza game.
RaymanHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Oh, right. It's a series that doesn't interest me, so I keep forgetting.Kiryu's the main character for every entry before the upcoming Like A Dragon.
Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Kiryu is the most prominent character in the Yakuza series. He would be the one to get included.I was going to say something about you noting a Sonic character yesterday(keyboard was barely working, so couldn't). I missed something. Why'd you remove that part of your opinion? Just wondering.
I admit, they're competition. Though the question is which moveset translates better in the end. There's also other Sega characters too, but it seems like moveset is a key factor as is. Also, which Yakuza would be chosen? I know nothing of the series.
Cause they don’t know lol. They don’t know ****. They are lying.Oddly enough, despite the mass 3rd party deconfirmations by both Verge & Sabi, neither has bothered to deconfirm Nintendo as a whole or even a Spirit/AT chatacter.
You would think both would be the easiest to say "yeah Fighter 5 isn't this" but instead it's been living this long. Ironically enough, both of those were on Verge's mass kill list from December before he quickly backtracked on that. So even now, potentially a few days until the Direct both are still living.
My problem with this video is not, that he doesn't like certain characters to be in Smash.JWittz decided to share a list of characters he personally doesn't want to see in Smash #1 is just a straight fact though.
1: Rayman. I grew up with his first two games. Rayman 2 is the first game I played to 100% completion, I think.Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
1. Dante - Dante is one of my favorite characters in games and Devil May Cry 5 is one of the best games I've played this decade.Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Anything post-pass has no known rules, so we could get Echoes. I imagine if we get Echoes they're either an Echo Pass itself or only sold separately for way lower. Another thought is Echoes could have a super cheap price if you purchased the Fighter's Pass, like half. Cause I can't imagine them being free. They still take a lot of work, just less than clones/semi-clones/unique. More than alts, at least.I know they said no echoes for the fighter pass, but if post pass we get a Yakuza character I'd hope we'd get Kiryu as the base fighter and Goro Majima as an echo. Both of them are very brutal and capable fighters that would work well as echoes, but i'd love to see Majima's unhinged personality expressed through cosmetic animations.
Nathan DrakeWho's left?
He's all about getting up close and doing his rush combos against your opponents to build up his Heat Gauge which lets him do really strong, frequently over the top attacks, some of which depend on the situation. He also makes excellent use of any objects in the surrounding area to assist in combat no matter what they are.So how would he play?
As someone who is a hardcore Puyo Puyo fan, since 5 years old and wouldn't mind Arle1. Every character in the pass is older than the character that preceded them (Terry ---> Banjo ---> averaged Hero ---> Joker). The base game characters also followed a simmilar pattern, but instead chronological (Ridley ---> Simon ---> K.Rool ---> Isabelle ---> Incineroar). If the theory holds (which I see no reason as to why it wouldn't), the fifth character would have to be from the 80s - which Arle just so happens to be from.
2. Joker, a Sega Property, was the only third party not to be leaked. This implies Sega is good at keeping things under wraps. The secrecy of Fighter 5 could be excused by it being another Sega character.
3. I know how weak color theory is, but I feel it's still worth mentioning it works for Arle.
4.. Sega seems to be trying to make Puyo Puyo more popular outside of Japan. A similar thing was happening with Dragon Quest and King of Fighters, and Smash was part of it.
5. You're downplaying the SNES game quite a bit. It's a Japanese-only game, yet it's on Switch online. There are a few region-only games on NES online, but they all stayed in their region. Puyo Puyo is the sole exeption to this, and why? Maybe to increase familiarity when she comes to Smash.
Not all of these are very strong on their own, but I feel that when they're all added together that they present a very solid case.
Or you know... It's probably because it's 2020 and not the 90s anymore, and people are comfortable with Japanse / non English gamesPuyo Puyo is the sole exeption to this, and why? Maybe to increase familiarity when she comes to Smash.
1. Rayman - I think it's finally time to get him to playable-statusHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Hmm. Makes me wonder if he could have a gimmick related to items on the ground too. Like maybe they last a bit longer, like a few more shots with a projectile weapon, the chances of the items disappearing are lessened, etc.He's all about getting up close and doing his rush combos against your opponents to build up his Heat Gauge which lets him do really strong, frequently over the top attacks, some of which depend on the situation. He also makes excellent use of any objects in the surrounding area to assist in combat no matter what they are.
DanteHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
It is very much like a brawler game except 7 which is weirdly gonna be an RPG.Hmm. Makes me wonder if he could have a gimmick related to items on the ground too. Like maybe they last a bit longer, like a few more shots with a projectile weapon, the chances of the items disappearing are lessened, etc.
It is a lot like a Brawler game(I.E. Spider-Man and Venom)?
1. DanteHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Then I suggest a Brawler character should have an item gimmick akin to that.It is very much like a brawler game except 7 which is weirdly gonna be an RPG.
1. Steve (Minecraft)Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
1.- Dante: Super-iconic character with great moveset.Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
PhoenixHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
>Layton, Phoenix and Rayman all under 1st Third-partyHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Oh well, guess I'll go with:
What did I do to hurt you bro...?
Gotta keep the train rolling somehow. Nearly every point in her favor fell apart after the VGAs, so now her base is going to start reaching even further to continue to paint her as a “front runner” so to speak.My favorite part about this image is that the silly joke of "Wolf has the hots for a picture of a horse" is being interpreted as OMG ITS A COSMOS FLOWER DUDES
Will give him credit for being brave enough to make a video like that. Some days I wish I could straight up do that here. lolJWittz decided to share a list of characters he personally doesn't want to see in Smash #1 is just a straight fact though.
Gotta say I think a few of his arguments are kinda silly, its his opinion and ultimately they won't affect any decision from Sakurai whatsoever.JWittz decided to share a list of characters he personally doesn't want to see in Smash #1 is just a straight fact though.
Feel that a few of these lists are a bit random sometimes, half the categories are self explanatory but would like to know why the third parties are divided this way.Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
1. Rayman - I have a lot of nostalgia for the original game, and he'd bring along some fantastic music.Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
Here's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
1.DanteHere's a little customization game we can play. Make your ideal pass using one character from each of the five lists.
1st Third-party
Rayman
Professor Layton
Dante
Phoenix Wright
Steve
2nd Third-party
Reimu
KOS-MOS
Arle Nadja
Lloyd Irving
2nd Sonic the Hedgehog character
"Promotional" Character
Three Houses rep (Your choice)
Astral Chain rep (Your choice)
Ring Fit Adventurer
Gooigi
Sword and Shield rep (Your choice)
Give the People What They Want
Geno
Master Chief
Sora
Waluigi
Issac
The Big Surprise
Any character who you want but don't expect.
I'm not sure, but I know this guy has some kind of reputation. I recognize the avatar.https://twitter.com/Newmarkomaro/status/1213966776842833926
Is this the same guy that leaked Mystery Dungeon?