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1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

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1. Mike Tyson. I've been lowkey thinking about a new Punch Out rep for a long time, and this is the one I want most. My issue is I'm not sure how you can differentiate it from Little Mac beyond "he punches differently." Hey, maybe that could work. Tyson's gimmick is that he's insanely difficult so I'm not sure how you can keep that NES charm while still being balanced.

2. Bomberman. I like the dude ans reading his potential bull**** is fun.

3. Hat Kid from a Hat in Time. If it pushes people to plat Hat in Time and gets Gears for Breakfast to make a new game, hell yeah.

4. Geno. Even after playing Super Mario RPG, I didn't find Geno and his game particularly interesting. I just like his design though, so I support him. Similar to why I support KOSMOS really.
 

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This is my first forum post of the year, so I wanna try something new. So... I usually participate in those fun little lists we make, but I never came up with a game of my own, and I kinda wanna try that.

I think one way to get folks hyped about characters is their movesets. So, I want to see if y'all can answer any (or all) of these, and I will try to provide detailed concepts for the one response that I like the most (bonus points if I pull this off before FP5's announcement). I hope that makes sense. If not, I'll try to explain it more eloquently.

List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

This includes side characters and 4th party characters. Again... you don't have to answer every one, but it might help your odds. I'll provide a detailed concept for the one list I like most. If ya don't win, don't feel left out though! All participants will receive an internet hug in the form of one like. :052:
Hmm, interesting. Gonna try and put out some less-talked about stuff, too, since you're looking for a challenge. ;)
  1. Speaking of adventure games... Guybrush or, if they count (the comics came first), Sam and Max! They have so much potential and their combined movesets change depending on which games from their respective series you'd want to pay homage to, so I find it really hard to make one cohesive moveset.
  2. Klonoa. I've tried making him a set once or twice, but I never felt like they did him justice. Would love seeing what other people can make for him.
  3. I'm tempted to say Ahri, but my bias for her aside, I think League in general is really slept on compared to other PC-based series, so I'm gonna throw you a bone on this one and say any League of Legends character instead. I know you like Taliyah, so make one for her if you want. :)
  4. I'd say a Style Savvy character, but considering it's you, you probably have a concept already... so I'm gonna go with Lanky Kong. Not a character I'd actively want by any means, but considering his DK64 moveset, it's one I think would be the perfect joke character for the Donkey Kong series.
 
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  1. The first character has to be heavier than Bowser. (135 is the weight to beat, unless tied.) Ties are acceptable.
  2. The second character has to be lighter than Pichu. (Can't be higher than 61, except to tie.) Ties are acceptable.
  3. The third character has to have an overarching gimmick that defines their playstyle. (Something like Arsene.)
  4. The fourth character has to have no major gimmicks, being relatively straightforward. (Kinda like Mario.)
  5. The final character has to be able to spawn an item or an item-like entity.
My picks would be... Ganon (tying), Paper Mario (also tying), Arle Nadja (chain gimmick), Shovel Knight, and Crash Bandicoot (crates).
1. Heavy
2. Chibi Robo
3. Reiko Nagase. She's weak outside of her car. Her attacks consist of waving race flags, setting up obstacles for her car, and being a regular ass woman. She also summons a goddamn car that she can ride in and do tricks with because of said obstacles. Her gimmicks have gimmicks!
4. Akihiko Sanada
5. Monokuma


List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

This includes side characters and 4th party characters. Again... you don't have to answer every one, but it might help your odds. I'll provide a detailed concept for the one list I like most. If ya don't win, don't feel left out though! All participants will receive an internet hug in the form of one like. :052:
1. Patapon. It would feel wrong af without the rhythm element.
2. Pepsiman
3. Yumi from Senran Kagura
4. Sol Badguy is one of the most vanilla Guilty Gear characters, but he would stand out so goddamn much in Super Smash
 
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Well, got some interesting news coming from China's online retailer titan Taobao (they operate the online shopping site Taobao.com, Alexa Rank 8, and the business-to-consumer retailer Tmall.com, Alexa Rank 3):


"Craze" probably refers to sales or likes, although it is a weird term. It even befuddled Chinese commentators a bit.

That said - there are two probable major reasons why: First, the official console release. The second being Ring Fit.

No kidding: since Ring Fit's an import title (and with extra accessories) the full package bounces between $80 (where it started) and just around $115 - and enough people (want to) buy it. To the point that Ring Fit's one of the most talked about Switch games on Chinese social media. While its not the only game of its kind of course; Ring Fit might really help the Switch there since it and other such games prove the Switch isn't just a video game machine.

I was a bit too late to do the "X Pick" game, but if I had to give the "Nintendo Exec" pick to a first party, it'd be Ring Fit.

List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

This includes side characters and 4th party characters. Again... you don't have to answer every one, but it might help your odds. I'll provide a detailed concept for the one list I like most. If ya don't win, don't feel left out though! All participants will receive an internet hug in the form of one like. :052:
1. Skull Kid. And I'm being honest here, it feels really, really difficult to incorporate his AT effects into a playable moveset. One could start from scracth, true, but where would you? Using the fairies / mask as basis? I struggle to see where to start there.

2. Goomba. If Goomba can swing a bat, they can do more... but they are low on the priority list - even after :ultpiranha:.

3. Sarah Kerrigan. Yes, she's a Blizzard character, but arguably the main character of the StarCraft 'verse and very atypical (think Kid Icarus' Medusa, only more Tyranid-y) fit with a lot of potential mechanics and gimmicks. Which is why I'm thinking she's a dark horse.

4. Isaac. Never played the Golden Sun games, but anyone who can Force Push is A-Okay in my eyes. Why isn't he a Jedi already?
 
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1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually
1)Don-chan
2)Sora
3)Layton
4)Dante
 

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Well, got some interesting news coming from China's online retailer titan Taobao (they operate the online shopping site Taobao.com, Alexa Rank 8, and the business-to-consumer retailer Tmall.com, Alexa Rank 3):

"Craze" probably refers to sales or likes, although it is a weird term. It even befuddled Chinese commentators a bit. (Edited for brevity)
I know that's unnoficial and the image has nothing to do with anything, but seeing Lee Sin next to Mario in it brought a smile to my face.
 

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This is my first forum post of the year, so I wanna try something new. So... I usually participate in those fun little lists we make, but I never came up with a game of my own, and I kinda wanna try that.

I think one way to get folks hyped about characters is their movesets. So, I want to see if y'all can answer any (or all) of these, and I will try to provide detailed concepts for the one response that I like the most (bonus points if I pull this off before FP5's announcement). I hope that makes sense. If not, I'll try to explain it more eloquently.

List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

This includes side characters and 4th party characters. Again... you don't have to answer every one, but it might help your odds. I'll provide a detailed concept for the one list I like most. If ya don't win, don't feel left out though! All participants will receive an internet hug in the form of one like. :052:
1) After coming up with a moveset for Q Bert, this is tough. So I guess I’ll go with Evil Otto.

2) Zoda (Star Tropics)

3) Pitfall Harry

4) Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari Damacy)
 

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3. Sarah Kerrigan. Yes, she's a Blizzard character, but arguably the main character of the StarCraft 'verse and very atypical (think Kid Icarus' Medusa, only more Tyranid-y) fit with a lot of potential mechanics and gimmicks. Which is why I'm thinking she's a dark horse.
Never played Starcraft but I always thought that characters like Sarah Kerrigan would be in before Tracer or any Overwatch character. Overwatch while is popular and had a good peak of popularity back then I don't think it would be the priority for Sakurai if he goes for a Blizzard character. I think he would go for a Diablo or Starcraft rep, franchises that helped define Blizzard back then.
Coming from someone that has only played Overwatch if we talk about Blizzard games I don't picture Sakurai choosing Overwatch over Starcraft or Diablo in any scenario, honestly. I could be wrong, but idk. Knowing the predilection that Sakurai has for classic or legacy games/characters I feel that the outcome for a Blizzard character would be anything but Overwatch in Smash.
 

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This is my first forum post of the year, so I wanna try something new. So... I usually participate in those fun little lists we make, but I never came up with a game of my own, and I kinda wanna try that.

I think one way to get folks hyped about characters is their movesets. So, I want to see if y'all can answer any (or all) of these, and I will try to provide detailed concepts for the one response that I like the most (bonus points if I pull this off before FP5's announcement). I hope that makes sense. If not, I'll try to explain it more eloquently.

List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually

This includes side characters and 4th party characters. Again... you don't have to answer every one, but it might help your odds. I'll provide a detailed concept for the one list I like most. If ya don't win, don't feel left out though! All participants will receive an internet hug in the form of one like. :052:
Fun topic!

1. Akari/Ryota Hayami. Part of the reason I love them is because I think a moveset based around snowboarding and jet skis would be funny and fun, and I love the Wave Race games. That's why I started the Wave Race support thread! But the thing is, I don't know at all what their moveset would really be like. I make jokes about water-based Captain Falcon clones and smacking people with dolphins but I absolutely have no real idea how they'd fight.

2. Marina Liteyears. My pipe dream game character. I'm like 90% sure I could sit down and make a full moveset based on what she does in her games and I have plenty of ideas, but I've never been very good at assigning them to the requisite slots. Still, grab combos and weapons. Boom.

3. Mona. It baffles me how she's not seen as the de facto best next Wario Ware rep. Her microgames are some of the most iconic, she has tons of potential with her many many jobs and costumes, she along with Jimmy are almost always the second or third WarioWare characters you run into in story mode, she's usually important in some way in little extra scenes...and also I just like her a whole bunch!

4. Captain Toad. I like Captain Toad and his games enough but the idea of a slow, methodical moveset revolving around terrain manipulation and tossing turnips sounds like a lot of fun.
 

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1. Mike Tyson. I've been lowkey thinking about a new Punch Out rep for a long time, and this is the one I want most. My issue is I'm not sure how you can differentiate it from Little Mac beyond "he punches differently." Hey, maybe that could work. Tyson's gimmick is that he's insanely difficult so I'm not sure how you can keep that NES charm while still being balanced.

2. Bomberman. I like the dude ans reading his potential bull**** is fun.

3. Hat Kid from a Hat in Time. If it pushes people to plat Hat in Time and gets Gears for Breakfast to make a new game, hell yeah.

4. Geno. Even after playing Super Mario RPG, I didn't find Geno and his game particularly interesting. I just like his design though, so I support him. Similar to why I support KOSMOS really.
Mike Tyson is lowkey brilliant. I can for sure make him different from Little Mac. For starters, he inspired Balrog (AKA M. Bison), so he should have a charge input or two. I also enjoy Bomberman shenanigans. Hat Kid interests me considerably; I need to jump on that game ASAP because it looks right up my alley. I've mentioned before that I'd be very happy for Geno fans if it happened, but that's about it. So, coming up with a moveset would be a nice challenge for me, and a good test of patience lol. Who knows? It might actually make me a fan in the process.

Hmm, interesting. Gonna try and put out some less-talked about stuff, too, since you're looking for a challenge. ;)
  1. Speaking of adventure games... Guybrush or, if they count (the comics came first), Sam and Max! They have so much potential and their combined movesets change depending on which games from their respective series you'd want to pay homage to, so I find it really hard to make one cohesive moveset.
  2. Klonoa. I've tried making him a set once or twice, but I never felt like they did him justice. Would love seeing what other people can make for him.
  3. I'm tempted to say Ahri, but my bias for her aside, I think League in general is really slept on compared to other PC-based series, so I'm gonna throw you a bone on this one and say any League of Legends character instead. I know you like Taliyah, so make one for her if you want. :)
  4. I'd say a Style Savvy character, but considering it's you, you probably have a concept already... so I'm gonna go with Lanky Kong. Not a character I'd actively want by any means, but considering his DK64 moveset, it's one I think would be the perfect joke character for the Donkey Kong series.

I'm leaning towards Sam and Max, but Guybrush would be cool, too! If I whipped something up for Klonoa, it might do them justice. Ahri would be more challenging for me, simply because you know more about her than I ever will, but I wouldn't mind sharing my take on the character. As for Taliyah, I watched her LoL moveset demonstration/breakdown and already have a general idea of how she'd work in Smash. But any and every League character is good. As for Style Savvy, yep... I already did it. Lanky (or Cranky) Kong would be good joke DK reps.

1. Patapon. It would feel wrong af without the rhythm element.
2. Pepsiman and Professor Layton
3. Yumi from Senran Kagura
4. Sol Badguy is one of the most vanilla Guilty Gear characters, but he would stand out so goddamn much in Super Smash
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Neat list though, fam. :052:

1)Don-chan
2)Sora
3)Layton
4)Dante
Don-chan, eh? Y'all trying to use up all my creativity, ahaha. One more mention for Sora and Layton. I'm conflicted about Dante. Moveset-wise, I'd prefer Lady or Trish... Maybe even Lucia. But Dante oozes charisma and that Bayonetta matchup would be super dope. But yeah... I totally understand how he can still be interesting to folks who don't care about DMC and/or the character. His arsenal is pretty bonkers and his fighting style is hella flashy.

1) After coming up with a moveset for Q Bert, this is tough. So I guess I’ll go with Evil Otto.

2) Zoda (Star Tropics)

3) Pitfall Harry

4) Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari Damacy)
Okay... ya came up with something for Q Bert and suggested Evil Otto, so your level of creativity is well above my pay grade. I can't refuse that list, it's so good. I'm so glad you posted.

Fun topic!

1. Akari/Ryota Hayami. Part of the reason I love them is because I think a moveset based around snowboarding and jet skis would be funny and fun, and I love the Wave Race games. That's why I started the Wave Race support thread! But the thing is, I don't know at all what their moveset would really be like. I make jokes about water-based Captain Falcon clones and smacking people with dolphins but I absolutely have no real idea how they'd fight.

2. Marina Liteyears. My pipe dream game character. I'm like 90% sure I could sit down and make a full moveset based on what she does in her games and I have plenty of ideas, but I've never been very good at assigning them to the requisite slots. Still, grab combos and weapons. Boom.

3. Mona. It baffles me how she's not seen as the de facto best next Wario Ware rep. Her microgames are some of the most iconic, she has tons of potential with her many many jobs and costumes, she along with Jimmy are almost always the second or third WarioWare characters you run into in story mode, she's usually important in some way in little extra scenes...and also I just like her a whole bunch!

4. Captain Toad. I like Captain Toad and his games enough but the idea of a slow, methodical moveset revolving around terrain manipulation and tossing turnips sounds like a lot of fun.
Thanks!

I've seen someone suggest Akari being a dual rep for both series, but I can imagine the siblings being echoes of one another; Akari having slightly stronger moves for her specialized sport and Ryota for his. It would be so Rocket Power-esque; I dig it. I might explain that in great detail; I'll ask Genesis to assist. Underrated character from a hidden gem; wouldn't mind hyping Marina up. They all flocked to Ashley, amiga, but they don't even knoooow! Yes, but can he jump though? Just kidding.

1. Skull Kid. And I'm being honest here, it feels really, really difficult to incorporate his AT effects into a playable moveset. One could start from scracth, true, but where would you? Using the fairies / mask as basis? I struggle to see where to start there.

2. Goomba. If Goomba can swing a bat, they can do more... but they are low on the priority list - even after :ultpiranha:.

3. Sarah Kerrigan. Yes, she's a Blizzard character, but arguably the main character of the StarCraft 'verse and very atypical (think Kid Icarus' Medusa, only more Tyranid-y) fit with a lot of potential mechanics and gimmicks. Which is why I'm thinking she's a dark horse.

4. Isaac. Never played the Golden Sun games, but anyone who can Force Push is A-Okay in my eyes. Why isn't he a Jedi already?
When in doubt, amalgamation: Skull Kid has Lost Wood shenanigans from Ocarina of Time and the Twilight Princess trumpet version to pull moves from. There's way more to Skull Kid than the mask, but they can also incorporate his prankster debuffs that the Assist Trophy uses. I wouldn't mind being that one person to come up with a dope moveset for Goomba, but I also don't want to be known for it. LOL. Yassss! I read about Kerrigan, she has a Nintendo connection, and my sister made her seem like the hypest villain/hero combo ever. Even when I didn't know anything about Isaac, Smash won me over. I ended up getting the games and enjoying them.
 
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The way NDAs work is that you can’t tell them master chief is a fighter you can lie or talk if in an NDA
Yet nobody forces you to reply. This was by a dev randomly answering a tweet, not in the context of an interview or anything.
 

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List a character that:

1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually
1. Crono (Chrono Trigger): Tried to make a moveset for him but I just got really muddled up with him and I just couldn't figure how to make him work. It sounds like he would be pretty simple but not for me apparently.

2. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage): I love Axel Stone and I always pick him when I play Streets of Rage. He definitely looks like he could be a great character. I feel like his moveset would be pretty self explanatory.

3. Sgt. Cortez (TimeSplitters): This one is pretty self explanatory as to why this guy and the series he comes from deserves more recognition but mostly his series. Games were worked on by most of the people involved in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, Story mode maybe an acquired taste but the multiplayer in the games is grade A stuff throughout the series and the game has a mapmaker so you can create your own Story and multiplayer levels. I had a blast with the Mapmaker. TimeSplitters unfortunately was the victim of being overshadowed by the Halo hype but now with news on the horizon of a TimeSplitters revival in the works, maybe this time the series will get more recognition.

As for Cortez for Smash Bros, Now that Banjo & Kazooie are in the game, he is now my number 1 most wanted character and I think he'd be a really decent character. Might not be the most unique character but he's certainly would not be straight forward like Banjo & Kazooie. As I've said before in a previous post he has a Temporal Uplink that acts like the gravity gun from Half Life 2 but it fits onto his arm. He has plenty of weapons to choose from like Flamethrowers, Electrotools, Plasma Autorifles, Tommy Guns, Sniper Rifles. He can use Time Grenades which has an area of effect that slows everyone down and leaves Cortez unaffected. The best thing about Cortez being in Smash Bros would be that the Motion Sensor Bomb would technically have a home series since TimeSplitters is a spiritual successor to Goldeneye and the motion sensor bomb was inspired by Goldeneye. I could say more but I already made a Cortez for Smash thread just for that.

Excuse me for the long post for Cortez and if I sound like a broken record but I hold this series near and dear to me and I'm upset that it is under the radar for many people.

4. Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear): Never played the games because I'm crap at traditional fighters (I'm fine doing quarter circles but when it comes to doing combo strings, nuh-uh. Super thankful that Terry does not include them) Sol looks pretty cool and I wouldn't mind if he was DLC.
 

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Also... Metal Slug without a pilot would be hilarious. It wouldn't be the first fighting game with a playable tank, too.
Well, it would HAVE a driver, it just wouldn't effect the moveset. Like how it's really the Clown Car that's the fighter, and the Koopalings are just kinda there.

It'd be the same for the Metal Slug. You play the tank, and Marco, Tarma, Eri and Fio are just along for the ride.
 
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One thing I desperately hope for is that FP5's gameplay trailer gets shown alongside their announcment, not the bull**** Joker and Terry got where Nintendo went "They're coming out in 2 months! Surely you don't want to see gameplay until they release right?".


I say 2 months specifically because I know smartasses will go "Well Joker wasn't finished when he was announced" when Joker got teased again in February
 

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One thing I desperately hope for is that FP5's gameplay trailer gets shown alongside their announcment, not the bull**** Joker and Terry got where Nintendo went "They're coming out in 2 months! Surely you don't want to see gameplay until they release right?".
I'd be fine with reveal-only trailers if DLC characters were also getting the numbered gameplay trailers.
 

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One thing I desperately hope for is that FP5's gameplay trailer gets shown alongside their announcment, not the bull**** Joker and Terry got where Nintendo went "They're coming out in 2 months! Surely you don't want to see gameplay until they release right?".


I say 2 months specifically because I know smartasses will go "Well Joker wasn't finished when he was announced" when Joker got teased again in February
As a silly thought, what if they revealed a character’s gameplay without revealing the actual character? Like, if they made the character model invisible, muted the voice clips, and turned hitbox view (but not hurtbox view) on for the trailer.
 
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As a silly thought, what if they revealed a character’s gameplay without revealing the actual character? Like, if they made the character model invisible, muted the voice clips, and turned hitbox view (but not hurtbox view) on for the trailer.
You'd get people arguing why a tall character with a disjointed weapon and zero projectiles is definitely Geno.
 

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You'd get people arguing why a tall character with a disjointed weapon and zero projectiles is definitely Geno.
Or why a short character that appears to spam energy projectiles all over the place is definitely Waluigi.
 
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One thing I desperately hope for is that FP5's gameplay trailer gets shown alongside their announcment, not the bull**** Joker and Terry got where Nintendo went "They're coming out in 2 months! Surely you don't want to see gameplay until they release right?".


I say 2 months specifically because I know smartasses will go "Well Joker wasn't finished when he was announced" when Joker got teased again in February
Well it's been almost two full months since they released Terry so I'm not worried.
 

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You'd get people arguing why a tall character with a disjointed weapon and zero projectiles is definitely Geno.
As a side note, this kind of character for this would make for a better test of people‘s ability to identify a character’s fighting style, wouldn’t it? You’d have to be very knowledgeable about your character to tell definitively that they way they carry and swing their weapon proves that it’s them, given that there’s a lot of tall disjointed weapon users in gaming.
 

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As a silly thought, what if they revealed a character’s gameplay without revealing the actual character? Like, if they made the character model invisible, muted the voice clips, and turned hitbox view (but not hurtbox view) on for the trailer.
That's not just taking the piss that's taking the entire bladder
 
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1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually
1. Pitfall Harry. No joke.
2. Vincent Brooks. After playing Catherine: Full Body, I know he could have a great moveset. I just need time to think about how it would work.
3. Any CoD rep. People may s**t on the series, but you can't deny the impact it's had on gaming history.
4. Arle Nadja. For the fans.

  1. The first character has to be heavier than Bowser. (135 is the weight to beat, unless tied.) Ties are acceptable.
  2. The second character has to be lighter than Pichu. (Can't be higher than 61, except to tie.) Ties are acceptable.
  3. The third character has to have an overarching gimmick that defines their playstyle. (Something like Arsene.)
  4. The fourth character has to have no major gimmicks, being relatively straightforward. (Kinda like Mario.)
  5. The final character has to be able to spawn an item or an item-like entity.
1. The Heavy from TF2.
2. Q-Bert.
3. Isaac (The Binding of Isaac). Now, hear me out. During tournament play, you buff his moves. But when items are on, he needs to stack them to become powerful. Think of the dumb combinations you could have (maximum of 3 items). The Tanooki Suit, Metal Box, and Ray Gun until you are KO'd.
4. One of the guys from Double Dragon.
5. Vincent Brooks, back at it again with those blocks.

Now I got a question for everyone:

Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN?? WTF??")

This'll start a war, but mine would be Geno. If he's included beforehand, then IDC. But if he gets in before a character that has more of an impact (IMO) on gaming history, then I'd be a little angry.
 
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Now I got a question for everyone:

Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID (insert that final character) GET IN?? WTF??".
Who wants to bet that this will result in another Fire Emblem debate?
 
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1. You absolutely can't come up with a moveset for, even if ya tried. The wackier, the better.

2. You like that ya probably could make a moveset for, but don't feel like doing it (but you wouldn't mind reading about it)

3. A character you think deserves more awareness

4. You have little to no attachment to, but think they would be dope conceptually
1. Duna Nichs - My absolute left field crack pick from a game three people played. I liked Fossil Fighters and I like Duna, but I cannot even come close to thinking up a moveset for her. Her whole thing is that she can turn into a raptor, but past that I honestly can't think of anything. There is a little recognition of Fossil Fighters in Smash already, so I suppose this isn't entirely left field, but she's an absolute nobody with crazy things she can do, and I think it would be neat

2. Raiden - There's a lot of potential there for a moveset, and I've certainly tried to put one together myself, but there are such a variety of options, I don't know what I would do, or how I would incorporate them. On top of that, more Metal Gear representation is nice, and the music from MGR:R is fantastic, it almost feels made for Smash, although that might just be becvause Raiden was already in a platform fighter beforehand

3. Ragna the Bloodedge - (have I mentioned I really like BlazBlue?) I think Ragna, and just BlazBlue in general could use a little more fanfare in general because it's an anime fighter which is not a popular genre, and within that niche is largely overshadowed by it's big brother Guilty Gear. I think there's a lot of mileage you could get out of Ragna's moveset from the Azure Grimoire harming him and his Drives being able to heal him, and all that. On top of that, BlazBlue has a great selection of music tracks, and it would just tickle me pink to see people get upset at more anime

4. Geno - I've never played Super Mario RPG, but Geno has always seemed like a cool character to me, and it would make so many people happy, I can't give this spot to anyone else, imo
 

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As a silly thought, what if they revealed a character’s gameplay without revealing the actual character? Like, if they made the character model invisible, muted the voice clips, and turned hitbox view (but not hurtbox view) on for the trailer.
Ayame from Tenchu confirmed!!!


1. Crono (Chrono Trigger): Tried to make a moveset for him but I just got really muddled up with him and I just couldn't figure how to make him work. It sounds like he would be pretty simple but not for me apparently.

2. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage): I love Axel Stone and I always pick him when I play Streets of Rage. He definitely looks like he could be a great character. I feel like his moveset would be pretty self explanatory.

3. Sgt. Cortez (TimeSplitters): This one is pretty self explanatory as to why this guy and the series he comes from deserves more recognition but mostly his series. Games were worked on by most of the people involved in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, Story mode maybe an acquired taste but the multiplayer in the games is grade A stuff throughout the series and the game has a mapmaker so you can create your own Story and multiplayer levels. I had a blast with the Mapmaker. TimeSplitters unfortunately was the victim of being overshadowed by the Halo hype but now with news on the horizon of a TimeSplitters revival in the works, maybe this time the series will get more recognition.

As for Cortez for Smash Bros, Now that Banjo & Kazooie are in the game, he is now my number 1 most wanted character and I think he'd be a really decent character. Might not be the most unique character but he's certainly would not be straight forward like Banjo & Kazooie. As I've said before in a previous post he has a Temporal Uplink that acts like the gravity gun from Half Life 2 but it fits onto his arm. He has plenty of weapons to choose from like Flamethrowers, Electrotools, Plasma Autorifles, Tommy Guns, Sniper Rifles. He can use Time Grenades which has an area of effect that slows everyone down and leaves Cortez unaffected. The best thing about Cortez being in Smash Bros would be that the Motion Sensor Bomb would technically have a home series since TimeSplitters is a spiritual successor to Goldeneye and the motion sensor bomb was inspired by Goldeneye. I could say more but I already made a Cortez for Smash thread just for that.

Excuse me for the long post for Cortez and if I sound like a broken record but I hold this series near and dear to me and I'm upset that it is under the radar for many people.

4. Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear): Never played the games because I'm crap at traditional fighters (I'm fine doing quarter circles but when it comes to doing combo strings, nuh-uh. Super thankful that Terry does not include them) Sol looks pretty cool and I wouldn't mind if he was DLC.
1. That happens to the best of us. D: I'd love to try something for Chrono though.

2. Axel might seem straightforward, but translating him to Smash is a different ballgame. Good pick; Streets of Rage is my jam. I always picked Blaze.

3. I knew it! You still lived up to the hype. You have no idea how many TimeSplitter fans you probably made along the way, including me. Shooters aren't really my cup of tea, but GoldenEye and Perfect Dark are some of the exceptions. Ergo, the folks behind TimeSplitters were (sadly) ahead of their time, no pun intended. It has a lot going for it, and from what I've seen it's pretty funny, too. I am so down for a revival. Thank goodness for things like Kickstarter. Folks brought Shenmue back, y'all. This can happen.

4. As someone who's fairly decent-ish at fighters, I'd love a simplified Sol. Guilty Gear is too hard for me lol. He'd also bring some great music, too!

Well, it would HAVE a driver, it just wouldn't effect the moveset. Like how it's really the Clown Car that's the fighter, and the Koopalings are just kinda there.

It'd be the same for the Metal Slug. You play the tank, and Marco, Tarma, Eri and Fio are just along for the ride.
That makes sense. Maybe have the pilots peek out for a taunt or something, since they aren't visible like the Clown Car.

Anyways, I'm considering doing at least a character or two for each participant's list. I have at least two in mind that are getting the whole thing. These are enough suggestions to make another fighting game, so give me like a week or two. Hopefully, the end result will be amazing, but this does take time. I'll give it my all. And LOL if I do it before FP5's reveal.

1. Pitfall Harry. No joke.
2. Vincent Brooks. After playing Catherine: Full Body, I know he could have a great moveset. I just need time to think about how it would work.
3. Any CoD rep. People may s**t on the series, but you can't deny the impact it's had on gaming history.
4. Arle Nadja. For the fans.
Not the first Pitfall Harry suggestion. I'm for sure doing this one. I feel you; Vincent is great, but it's not easy to translate Catherine into Smash. Fun suggestion, so I'll most likely give it a shot, because I'm sure others would love to see this visualized. Now CoD is a hot take. Fortunately, I'm open-minded and wouldn't mind hyping it up. Heh, I'm an Arle fan, so I appreciate it.

1. Duna Nichs - My absolute left field crack pick from a game three people played. I liked Fossil Fighters and I like Duna, but I cannot even come close to thinking up a moveset for her. Her whole thing is that she can turn into a raptor, but past that I honestly can't think of anything. There is a little recognition of Fossil Fighters in Smash already, so I suppose this isn't entirely left field, but she's an absolute nobody with crazy things she can do, and I think it would be neat

2. Raiden - There's a lot of potential there for a moveset, and I've certainly tried to put one together myself, but there are such a variety of options, I don't know what I would do, or how I would incorporate them. On top of that, more Metal Gear representation is nice, and the music from MGR:R is fantastic, it almost feels made for Smash, although that might just be becvause Raiden was already in a platform fighter beforehand

3. Ragna the Bloodedge - (have I mentioned I really like BlazBlue?) I think Ragna, and just BlazBlue in general could use a little more fanfare in general because it's an anime fighter which is not a popular genre, and within that niche is largely overshadowed by it's big brother Guilty Gear. I think there's a lot of mileage you could get out of Ragna's moveset from the Azure Grimoire harming him and his Drives being able to heal him, and all that. On top of that, BlazBlue has a great selection of music tracks, and it would just tickle me pink to see people get upset at more anime

4. Geno - I've never played Super Mario RPG, but Geno has always seemed like a cool character to me, and it would make so many people happy, I can't give this spot to anyone else, imo
Woah, now THAT is out of left field. The Fossil Fighter support here is... lacking to put it mildly. And you pick Duna Nichs? I dig it, pun intended.

Raiden has a lot of potential. Making him different from Snake and his PSABR version but true to the character will be fun.

I'm in the Ragna support thread! I love me some Blazblue. Great story, gameplay, music, characters, etc. Central Fiction made me a huge fan of his, but I'm still a Lambda main.
 
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Now I got a question for everyone:

Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN?? WTF??")
I don’t think I could be mad at anyone at this point. If it’s someone I’m not interested in, it wouldn’t really matter considering I didn’t buy the fighters pass anyway. I wouldn’t be mad at an FE newcomer, because at this point Sakurai and Nintendo have made it clear there’s a certain way they want to treat the franchise, and that’s just part of how they want to run their business. If its another joke character, i would probably just make me happier. Also I already have every realistic character I’ve wanted and characters I thought had no hope, so I’m really just waiting to see if there’s any crazy surprises left up their sleeves.
Ironically, the worst thing they could do is actually give me exactly who I want, but butcher their gameplay with an unfun mechanic.
 

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I have one character who would actively make me mad, and a few I'd just shrug and roll my eyes at, but generally speaking as soon as I hear that music and see that gameplay? I'm on board. Nothing gets me more excited than a Smash reveal, no matter who it is. It's just a bonus if it's someone I hope for.
 

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Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN?? WTF??")
At this point if it's from a returning series and isn't a Kirby character or Geno I'll be pretty heated

I dig it, pun intended.
I would put up a gif of the Digadig Chieftan dancing, but aside from it being a little offensive the gif just does not exist
 

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Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN?? WTF??")
And this is why I can’t watch directs.

I’m actually being a lot better with DLC for Smash than I usually am. Most games I’ll just buy it all sight unseen, and then get disappointed - and I’ve spent $5 to get another face in the roster I don’t play. I haven’t bought any of the Smash DLC yet, and unless they give me one specific character, I’m only gonna get the ones I want. (But if they do give me my #1, I’ll celebrate by throwing money at the screen and filling my roster with a bunch of faces I never play) I’m only considering getting one of the four so far, but we’ll see what the rest look like.

I’ve calmed down about most characters too. In the Sm4sh days, there were a few characters I detested and would have had this reaction to, mainly because of their die-hard fanbases and the “my character is better than anyone else!” attitudes; they were in the avatar/sigs of the major Ridley/K. Rool detractor trolls, trying to claim their character was more relevant to Nintendo history than either of them. Since then, I still don’t necessarily like those characters, but I realize they have fanbases and would only dislike their inclusion insofar as it wasn’t someone I wanted. Still wouldn’t buy them though. Unless of course I get to see Kirby in a viking helmet.

Right now, the only characters I’d actively be mad at are the ones who would be roadblocks to the one I really want, basically those with similar moveset potential or the same parent company. And that’s not even permanent - if mine gets in, I’d have no problem at all with one of those getting in afterwards, and I’d buy them as well.

Now the idea of Sakurai coming out and saying “This is the last one,” then pretty well anyone who isn’t my most wanted will disappoint me but I don’t think any will enrage me. I remember watching the Corrin/Bayo trailer during Sm4sh, and I really got turned off from Smash for a while from it. But I didn’t stay away, and I’ll even say that there were great parts to Sm4sh in general, like Smash Run. Smash Ultimate has the potential to be a “games as service” style, so I’d love to see them just keep rolling out characters for quite a while, so any end would just feel like a let down.
 

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Well, it would HAVE a driver, it just wouldn't effect the moveset. Like how it's really the Clown Car that's the fighter, and the Koopalings are just kinda there.

It'd be the same for the Metal Slug. You play the tank, and Marco, Tarma, Eri and Fio are just along for the ride.
I'd prefer the guys to be playable characters and the Slug to be their final smash.
Also, don't forget about Trevor, Nadia, Ralf and Clark (though these two appear in the King of Fighters Stadium as background characters). They could be alternate skins, just like the Koopalings. Skins are 8, so rip Leona
 

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Well, it would HAVE a driver, it just wouldn't effect the moveset. Like how it's really the Clown Car that's the fighter, and the Koopalings are just kinda there.

It'd be the same for the Metal Slug. You play the tank, and Marco, Tarma, Eri and Fio are just along for the ride.
pull another Blitztank? I'm down.

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Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN?? WTF??")
You mean like if they repeat Smash 4's DLC? I may have abandoned that game then and there, but in Ultimate's context times have changed, and it isn't possible for me to be angry at a singular fighter. If the game never compensates for missing Kirby 64 spirits, that's not a character's fault, but the development team's. At that point no reveal will make a difference. I think at worst I'll consider buying Banjo but no other related product.
 

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Its been a while since I've been around here so IDK what exactly is going on, but is there a reason we have people speculating that we have a direct coming on Tuesday? Seen that some places outside of Smashboards.
 

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Its been a while since I've been around here so IDK what exactly is going on, but is there a reason we have people speculating that we have a direct coming on Tuesday? Seen that some places outside of Smashboards.
for one, next week is supposed to have a major Splatoon 2 update on the 6th. Yes. six months after final fest.
 

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1. Pitfall Harry. No joke.
2. Vincent Brooks. After playing Catherine: Full Body, I know he could have a great moveset. I just need time to think about how it would work.
3. Any CoD rep. People may s**t on the series, but you can't deny the impact it's had on gaming history.
4. Arle Nadja. For the fans.



1. The Heavy from TF2.
2. Q-Bert.
3. Isaac (The Binding of Isaac). Now, hear me out. During tournament play, you buff his moves. But when items are on, he needs to stack them to become powerful. Think of the dumb combinations you could have (maximum of 3 items). The Tanooki Suit, Metal Box, and Ray Gun until you are KO'd.
4. One of the guys from Double Dragon.
5. Vincent Brooks, back at it again with those blocks.

Now I got a question for everyone:

Picture this. It's the last fighter. It's the latest Direct. You've waited 40 minutes to see this. Your favorite has not yet been included. Then, BAM! It's not who you wanted. Which character would make you mad? (As in, "WHY DID ((insert that final character)) GET IN??]
A fire emblem or Xenoblade character would suuuuuuck as FP5.

If either were base or Fighters Pass 2, id be happy af for their fanbases
 
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