Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[3BitSaurus]

Post-Pass, I see an advertisement character inevitable.


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Pick your poison.

Joke #1: "The anime swordfighter vs. the anime-loving swordfighter."

Joke #2: Man, I can't wait to see the new Three Houses poster they put in Travis' house for NMH3.

Seriously, though, I'd pick Travis any day. I do think his chances will be higher post Pass. It would be cool if we could get Shinobu or Henry as ATs with him, but that probably won't happen...

Speaking of: what hazard could Travis' stage bring? I see a lot of people suggesting a traveling Santa Destroy stage or just the NMH Motel, but what about stage hazards?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

implying travis isnt an anime swordfighter

No he wields a beam katana. That is way different from a sword.

Suda 51 hard deconfirmed him multiple times.

If he is in, he will be post pass.

What if Suda is hiding him being Fighter 5 by lying about him not being fighter 5?

 

[nessdeltarune00]

No he wields a beam katana. That is way different from a sword.



What if Suda is hiding him being Fighter 5 by lying about him not being fighter 5?

Bruh


If this is not a hard deconfirm, I don’t know what is.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hermitonmic/status/1075873075328180225?lang=en

https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-201...lls-us-what-to-expect-from-no-more-heroes-iii

He must have some real dedication to lying for literally apologizing on stream for Travis not being in the game.

 

[osby]

However, given the way Ultimate has gone, I really do not see another Corrin situation happening anytime soon. (Hopefully)

*implying a Three Houses character would be a Corrin situation like the game didn't got almost universal praise and isn't already out worldwide for months*

 

[Cutie Gwen]

No he wields a beam katana. That is way different from a sword.



What if Suda is hiding him being Fighter 5 by lying about him not being fighter 5?

Travis would be insulted you said he isn't anime, he'd cut off your head for that

 

[Garteam]

Post-Pass, I see an advertisement character inevitable.


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Pick your poison.

...Is it strange I'd rather have Byleth over Travis? I honestly enjoyed Three Houses a lot more than No More Heroes.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hey its January! Has FP5 been announced yet!?

 

[Zem-raj]

Hey its January! Has FP5 been announced yet!?

I wish they were...

 

[Gentlepanda]

three houses rep will defy expectations and be dimitri because this man is still absolutely killing it in official nintendo polls

 

[Deleted member]

three houses rep will defy expectations and be dimitri because this man is still absolutely killing it in official nintendo polls

boar moment

 

[nessdeltarune00]

*implying a Three Houses character would be a Corrin situation like the game didn't got almost universal praise and isn't already out worldwide for months*

Maybe it is just me, but I’d prefer if Smash continues the route of adding many new franchises (AKA the current direction of the pass atm) than adding yet another Fire Emblem rep.

 

[osby]

Maybe it is just me, but I’d prefer if Smash continues the route of adding many new franchises (AKA the current direction of the pass atm) than adding yet another Fire Emblem rep.

I like new franchises alright, but if people can ask for two other Mario characters I don't see a problem with being vocal about a Three Houses character.

 

[Guynamednelson]

New year. New decade. Same old FE debates.

 

[BlueMonk]

I'm not too much of a first party fan rn but if there's one I want it's dimitri

gotta be post time skip dimitri though, I will accept nothing less

 

[Deleted member]

fire emblem? more like stupid emblem!

smash speculation was better when the grinch leaked the base roster and boomers sent death threats

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Travis would be insulted you said he isn't anime, he'd cut off your head for that

I never said that. Even then it's a compliment because then he won't be banned from Smash like Goku. At least that's how I think it works.

 

[Yacobo]

I like new franchises alright, but if people can ask for two other Mario characters I don't see a problem with being vocal about a Three Houses character.

Difference is Mario is big enough of a franchise to justify getting more characters. FE has already crossed that line several times.

 

[Deleted member]

it’s likely next week for a direct

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[Michael the Spikester]

I dunno why but I'm starting to see Travis Touchdown as a real possibility for FP5. I'd say he, KOS-MOS and Master Chief are currently the three most likely.

it’s likely next week for a direct

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/500?cb=20191126215116

Edit: Damn images still ain't working...

 

[Will]

I dunno why but I'm starting to see Travis Touchdown as a real possibility for FP5. I'd say he, KOS-MOS and Master Chief are currently the three most likely.

i must be the only sane person in the room when i speculate about travis

travis is most likely one of the first people who's gonna get in after the fighters pass but there's no way he's getting one as FP5.

 

[Deleted member]

fr y'all smash speculation has never been good, like, ever. it has always sucked. we have always sucked

we are all trapped here like that bill murray in that one movie where he's stuck in a time loop and has to relive the same period of time over and over

majora's mask or something

 

[Will]

majora's mask or something

loz18's presence detected

 

[Michael the Spikester]

fr y'all smash speculation has never been good, like, ever. it has always sucked. we have always sucked

we are all trapped here like that bill murray in that one movie where he's stuck in a time loop and has to relive the same period of time over and over

majora's mask or something

Been doing that. Been playing Luigi's Mansion 3 and MediEvil (PS4). Gonna go play the latter soon.

 

[BlueMonk]

Difference is Mario is big enough of a franchise to justify getting more characters. FE has already crossed that line several times.

maybe it's not mario big or anything, but three houses is a SENSATION, a character from there would definitely be justified. Not to mention that any of the potential candidates would be very interesting fighters. You gotta open your mind to the possibilities at play here

 

[Will]

Difference is Mario is big enough of a franchise to justify getting more characters. FE has already crossed that line several times.

FE crossed the line once with Corrin.
But since Three Houses is a universally accepted masterpiece that won more awards at the Game Awards than Smash, I think people won't care.

And then FE4 gets a remake just as good and here comes the wave of Seliph support threads

 

[Yacobo]

maybe it's not mario big or anything, but three houses is a SENSATION, a character from there would definitely be justified. Not to mention that any of the potential candidates would be very interesting fighters. You gotta open your mind to the possibilities at play here

First of all, I'm not going to deny that 3H is a success. But its success along the other FE games is extremely exaggerated. It's not even in the top 10 best selling switch games(is unlikely to stay in the top 20 by the time switch is done getting new games imo) and wasnt even the 4th or 5th best selling switch title this year. It even lost out to the Links Awakening remake despite that games controversies.

Along with that 3H characters dont come close to getting requested as a lot of other front runners for smash despite the recency bias. So I dont see any reason to add a 3H rep.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

I like new franchises alright, but if people can ask for two other Mario characters I don't see a problem with being vocal about a Three Houses character.

I don’t care for Geno or Waluigi either.

I just have a preference for new franchises atm, since a game like this will likely never happen again.

 

[Calamitas]

it’s likely next week for a direct

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Neat! How long was it between that kinda discovery and the actual Direct happening last time, again?

 

[Schnee117]

it’s likely next week for a direct

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Look at all those SKUs that came out yesterday, the SEGA Saturn approach is certainly a bold choice

 

[Will]

Neat! How long was it between that kinda discovery and the actual Direct happening last time, again?

In retail it can be like, one week up to a few weeks, from personal experience never more than a month.

 

[Opossum]

Difference is Mario is big enough of a franchise to justify getting more characters. FE has already crossed that line several times.

This is a game where Earthbound has two characters, two Assists, two items, and four stages. If franchise size actually meant anything we'd POTENTIALLY have Ness and Lucas as spirits. That's it.

 

[Guynamednelson]

This is a game where Earthbound has two characters, two Assists, two items, and four stages. If franchise size actually meant anything we'd POTENTIALLY have Ness and Lucas as spirits. That's it.

And the FE complaints would be Animal Crossing ones instead.

 

[Yacobo]

This is a game where Earthbound has two characters, two Assists, two items, and four stages. If franchise size actually meant anything we'd POTENTIALLY have Ness and Lucas as spirits. That's it.

So it's a coincidence that Mario and Pokemon, the two biggest ips by far, have the most content by a mile?

Because its apparent that unless you're fire emblem, you have to be one of the biggest video game franchises ever to get 6+ characters. Which makes less sense than just giving the bigger ips more content.

 

[Schnee117]

If franchise size actually mattered then the roster would be 90% Pokemon

 

[Opossum]

So it's a coincidence that Mario and Pokemon, the two biggest ips by far, have the most content by a mile?

Because its apparent that unless you're fire emblem, you have to be one of the biggest video game franchises ever to get 6+ characters. Which makes less sense than just giving the bigger ips more content.

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Mario is literally Nintendo's flagship and both Mario and Pokémon have tons of potential characters. So does Fire Emblem. Three Houses was an incredibly successful game with a very popular cast of characters, none of which are in Smash already. Pretty cut and dry, imo.

 

[Yacobo]

Correlation doesn't imply causation. Mario is literally Nintendo's flagship and both Mario and Pokémon have tons of potential characters. So does Fire Emblem. Three Houses was an incredibly successful game with a very popular cast of characters, none of which are in Smash already. Pretty cut and dry, imo.

And why is Mario's nintendos flagship? I find it hard to believe that pokemon are added solely for moveset potential when we got 3 shill human like reps in a row.

And a game selling 2 million on a console with multiple 10+ million sellers isn't impressive and the demand for any 3h character doesnt come remotely close to the most requested characters.

 

[Garteam]

three houses rep will defy expectations and be dimitri because this man is still absolutely killing it in official nintendo polls

Felix is typing in the chat...

Honestly though, I'd love for this to happen. Not only would we get a Three Houses rep, but we'd essentially get medieval Doom Slayer in Smash. I still like the idea of Byleth a tiny bit more, but Dimitri would still make me ecstatic beyond words.

 

[Opossum]

And why is Mario's nintendos flagship? I find it hard to believe that pokemon are added solely for moveset potential when we got 3 shill human like reps in a row.

And a game selling 2 million on a console with multiple 10+ million sellers isn't impressive and the demand for any 3h character doesnt come remotely close to the most requested characters.

I really hope you're pushing for a full Animal Crossing pass then, or else this would be entirely hypocritical. Because Animal Crossing would, objectively, be big enough to get six characters. And yet, lo and behold, a vocal segment of the fanbase complained when Isabelle got in.

So what, does franchise size only matter when it's a franchise you like? To me, it's clear that franchise size means nothing when compared to franchise activity. If F-Zero was the one with seven characters I could understand complaints.

 

[Gentlepanda]

And a game selling 2 million on a console with multiple 10+ million sellers isn't impressive and the demand for any 3h character doesnt come remotely close to the most requested characters.

you're allowed to say you just don't want a 3H character, it's a valid opinion

 

[Louisacommie]

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