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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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MasterOfKnees

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I'm going to laugh my ass off if after all this predictions about company representation. He ends up picking an indie no one saw coming.
Cuphead confirmed guys.
Cuphead would be worth it if only for the trailer, I'd love to see Smash characters adapted in that old school cartoon style.
 

GoodGrief741

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Alright time to ask a fun question.

Assuming the next fighter is not from Capcom and Bandai Namco, who do you feel is the most likely character?
Layton, Reimu, Quote, Dovahkiin all come to mind as possible candidates, though I'm a bit iffier on the Indies (especially Reimu) if it has to be a TGA announcement.
 

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I feel it’s between Sora or Sol.

We live in a time where both are seemingly feasible options it’s so strange to me lmao.
 

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Alright time to ask a fun question.

Assuming the next fighter is not from Capcom and Bandai Namco, who do you feel is the most likely character?
Its very hard to say, but if I were to give a guess, perhaps Kingdom Heart's Sora comes to mind. Either ways, I really hope that Fighter #5 will be something special and surprising if they are intending to reveal the character at the TGA's.
 
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Jomosensual

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Alright time to ask a fun question.

Assuming the next fighter is not from Capcom and Bandai Namco, who do you feel is the most likely character?
For me I'm thinking Dovahkiin right now. That being said, the last time I made a post like this I guessed Ezio and he got deconfirmed less than 3 minutes later so....
 

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Alright time to ask a fun question.

Assuming the next fighter is not from Capcom and Bandai Namco, who do you feel is the most likely character?
Also assuming it's none of the companies that were explicitly shot down (NIS, Falcom, Ubisoft) either, or someone shot down by PR like Travis Touchdown or Master Chief:
- Arc System Works character. Maybe someone from UNIST for a really dark horse pick
- Dovahkiin or Vault Boy. Hey, they only said Doomguy wasn't FP5, those two are fair game
- Arle Nadja, assuming they're not counting Atlus as Sega and as such aren't technically repeating companies on this technicality
- Neku if they DO want to repeat companies. We already know Geno ain't FP5
- and of course, Nintendo themselves. Akira Howard? Byleth? Elma??? (yes I know Elma's a Spirit but just watch as she's the first Spirit promotion)
 

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Also assuming it's none of the companies that were explicitly shot down (NIS, Falcom, Ubisoft) either, or someone shot down by PR like Travis Touchdown or Master Chief:
- Arc System Works character. Maybe someone from UNIST for a really dark horse pick
- Dovahkiin or Vault Boy. Hey, they only said Doomguy wasn't FP5, those two are fair game
- Arle Nadja, assuming they're not counting Atlus as Sega and as such aren't technically repeating companies on this technicality
- Neku if they DO want to repeat companies. We already know Geno ain't FP5
- and of course, Nintendo themselves. Akira Howard? Byleth? Elma??? (yes I know Elma's a Spirit but just watch as she's the first Spirit promotion)
What evidence is there to suggest that Elma could potentially be among the first spirit upgrades (assuming they even happen for post-pass)? I'm still of the mindset that Xenoblade Chronicles X was simply robbed with how little content it received in Ultimate, but I'd love to hear any reasons pointing towards her inclusion in the future.
 

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I feel it’s between Sora or Sol.

We live in a time where both are seemingly feasible options it’s so strange to me lmao.
I'm amazed that Sol Badguy hasn't been added to the deconfirmation list yet after all what happened this past week. And of course since I just said it, I might've jinxed his chances.

Sora would be cool though. Lots of moveset potential and would generate a ton of hype, especially in a venue like The Game Awards.
 

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- Dovahkiin or Vault Boy. Hey, they only said Doomguy wasn't FP5, those two are fair game
But Sabi's source also did say that Fighter 5 was not related to the Cacomallow mii hats at all so that means Bethesda is out.
 
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I'm amazed that Sol Badguy hasn't been added to the deconfirmation list yet after all what happened this past week. And of course since I just said it, I might've jinxed his chances.

Sora would be cool though. Lots of moveset potential and would generate a ton of hype, especially in a venue like The Game Awards.
Sora still has legal issues that could be problematic.
 

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Sora still has legal issues that could be problematic.
...like what?

His copyrights all belong to Disney and the composer of KH is on Smash’s sound team.

What severe legal issues does he have that prevents his inclusion? I honestly think fans make his situation sound worse than it does.
 

RileyXY1

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...like what?

His copyrights all belong to Disney and the composer of KH is on Smash’s sound team.

What severe legal issues does he have that prevents his inclusion? I honestly think fans make his situation sound worse than it does.
Well, having to go to Disney for rights might end up being difficult.
 

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As for me my vote would probably go to Dovahkiin. I think The Elder Scrolls is on equal standings with Doom in regards to who would be the first Bethesda rep, and if Doom is out of the equation then Dovahkiin has a decent chance of being the next fighter.

But Sabi's source also did say that Fighter 5 was not related to the Cacomallow mii hats at all so that means Bethesda is out.
Why would Bethesda as a whole be out? Cacodemons have never appeared in Skyrim or any other Bethesda game as a cameo, they only appeared in the Doom games. Fighter 5 not being related to the Cacomallow mii hats does not mean Bethesda as a whole is out, it just means Doom is out.
 

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What evidence is there to suggest that Elma could potentially be among the first spirit upgrades (assuming they even happen for post-pass)? I'm still of the mindset that Xenoblade Chronicles X was simply robbed with how little content it received in Ultimate, but I'd love to hear any reasons pointing towards her inclusion in the future.
No music, none of the spirits are featured in World of Light (as in, the #1 way to show of all of them fancy spirits), and not even Ultimate's interntal listing of games it draws content from mentions X. It just overall gives off the impression that any X content in Ultimate was hastily thrown together at the last minute to not make its absence too jarring.
 

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Which is why KOS-MOS appears in Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Okay, this is a joke right? I really hope so because if not the ignorance of what constitutes something as a crossover here is baffling.
 

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After reading the last several pages, including that one argument that has since died off... I've come to the conclusion that we've all basically gone stir crazy from waiting for the next reveal.
 

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After reading the last several pages, including that one argument that has since died off... I've come to the conclusion that we've all basically gone stir crazy from waiting for the next reveal.
It's starting to give me vibes from the gap between Joker and Hero/Banjo, and it hasn't even been half the wait time.
 

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No music, none of the spirits are featured in World of Light (as in, the #1 way to show of all of them fancy spirits), and not even Ultimate's interntal listing of games it draws content from mentions X. It just overall gives off the impression that any X content in Ultimate was hastily thrown together at the last minute to not make its absence too jarring.
True, but it's not like there aren't other spirits missing from World of Light and maybe they just neglected to list XCX in the code for some reason. The music is a very glaring omission, though, but I wonder if that's due to difficulty licensing tracks from Sawano and maybe they figured it was more trouble than it was worth.

I can't say that I'm convinced that she would be chosen over KOS-MOS or Rex as a Xeno rep, but I guess this is still something to think about.
 

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Why would Bethesda as a whole be out? Cacodemons have never appeared in Skyrim or any other Bethesda game as a cameo, they only appeared in the Doom games. Fighter 5 not being related to the Cacomallow mii hats does not mean Bethesda as a whole is out, it just means Doom is out.
Well they're both owned by Bethesda so if Fighter 5 is not related to the Cacodemon hat at all then it means that Bethesda has no involvement with Fighter 5. That's what I think anyway.
 

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Alright, it’s finally finished! It’s time to show off my roster predictions! Based on facts, leaks, rumors and common sense.

Fighter Pass:

Fighter Pass 2


Fighter Pass 3


Alright this took way longer than it needed to
 

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Well they're both owned by Bethesda so if Fighter 5 is not related to the Cacodemon hat at all then it means that Bethesda has no involvement with Fighter 5. That's what I think anyway.
I think that's just an exaggeration. The Cacodemon hat not being related to FP5 doesn't mean Bethesda isn't involved, because if that was the case then Sabi and his source would've said so. They only claimed it's not related to who the fifth fighter is and that only affects Doom.
 

RileyXY1

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I think that's just an exaggeration. The Cacodemon hat not being related to FP5 doesn't mean Bethesda isn't involved, because if that was the case then Sabi and his source would've said so. They only claimed it's not related to who the fifth fighter is and that only affects Doom.
That's right, because a Skyrim or Fallout character don't have to come with a Cacodemon Mii costume.
 

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True, but it's not like there aren't other spirits missing from World of Light and maybe they just neglected to list XCX in the code for some reason. The music is a very glaring omission, though, but I wonder if that's due to difficulty licensing tracks from Sawano and maybe they figured it was more trouble than it was worth.

I can't say that I'm convinced that she would be chosen over KOS-MOS or Rex as a Xeno rep, but I guess this is still something to think about.
licensing can't be an issue, as Elma was included in Xenoblade 2's expansion pass WITH Uncontrollable to boot
 
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