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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Gamma Ray

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I think it's kinda silly to discuss who the face of the Xeno-franchise is considering Xenoblade and Xenosaga are entirely different games (from my impressions anyway, correct me if I'm wrong) and I don't think you can just declare one character the face of everything.

If we're just talking mascot status for Monolith, then that's obviously KOS-MOS.
 

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This is literally echo chamber arguing but okay.

KOS-MOS is the face of the Xeno series because she’s an embodiment of the series thematically and as a character, this isn’t a popularity contest lmao.
also,
Elma's true form appearance? It's an homage to KOS-MOS. LOOK AT HER:
 

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Edgeworth would need to be an echo.

If Daisy's pep was enough for echo, they'd need at least that to capture Edgeworth's smug.
This is a good point. I don't think any of the other Suit Man characters would fit his bumbling antics.

It's probably better they didn't give him any alternate costumes because it'd remove all of the characterization as we've seen with Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings.
 

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You want a good TGA reveal trailer?
  • It's literally the original Smash 64 commercial, except at the end, when Donkey Kong is seeing swirling N64 logos, they're Switch logos (or Smash Balls)...
  • Cut to Pikachu lifting himself off the ground
  • Pikachu's eyes become fixed on a pair of feet directly in front of him.
  • First person view and slow pan up to reveal an imposing silhouette, standing arms-crossed.
  • Quick cuts of each mascot being pinned, flipped, and subdued.
  • Broad view of all the mascots laying motionless on the ground...
...
SEGA SATURN SHIRO!
 
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ES. Dinah

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And if anyone wants to argue with me you're more than welcome to. KOS-MOS gave you characters like Elma, Fiora, Mythra, Pyra etc. They are all inspired by her. Pyra and Mythra have the Zohar for a reason. Dont be ignorant and suggest KOS-MOS is not recognizable because she isn't in smash.

Xenogears actually started the trend though with Elly and her counterpart Myyah.

KOS-MOS and blue eyed KOS-MOS
Elma and true form Elma
Fiora and Meyneth (red eyed Fiora)
Pyra and Mythra as counterparts and Pneuma.
 

Ivander

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Hmm....so Lloyd is being hinted at not being in?

Well, Game Awards is soon, so we'll see whether or not that is the case.

If I were to have a prediction, I think it will be a Dark Souls character or a character that people weren't expecting, maybe mentioned a couple times, but never gave them much thought.
 

Scoliosis Jones

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You guys just don’t get it.

The Game Awards is sponsored by numerous companies, and as such commercial breaks will be needed. It’s the perfect place to put a Smash reveal.

Mario and Link are finished fighting. They’re sweaty, and are simply out of gas. They need a crisp, cold drink.

What do they reach for? Labatts? PBR? **** no. They reach for a deeply chilled bottle of Pepsi.

Suddenly: PEPSI MAN WANTS YOU TO DRINK!
 
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Today is the 7 year anniversary of Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney! Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright are my most wanted character for Smash, and all things considered these two have had chances go up a lot in the past week.

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Let’s hope one or both of these DS era heroes joins the ranks of other Nintendo and Gaming All-Stars!
 

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After attempting to find a template of the Smash Ultimate CSS with 16 placeholders so I could built a fan roster, I ended up finding a template of the CSS with room for 29 more DLC characters... I doubt we're getting that many, but just for fun... what are your ratings for this?

Wouldn't even be mad tier
Phoenix Wright
Lloyd Irving
Crash Bandicoot
Geno
Isaac
Shovel Knight
Rachet & Clank

Meh tier
Rex & Pyra
Heihachi
Chorus Kids
ExciteBike (Mach Rider would be better)
Bandanna Dee
Monster Hunter
Akira Howard
Adol
Twintelle
Shantae
Krystal
Waluigi
Master Chief
Saki
Captain Syrup
Ray Mk II
Susie

No idea who this is tier
Akira Yuke

So 7/29 for me
 

GoodGrief741

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And if anyone wants to argue with me you're more than welcome to. KOS-MOS gave you characters like Elma, Fiora, Mythra, Pyra etc. They are all inspired by her. Pyra and Mythra have the Zohar for a reason. Dont be ignorant and suggest KOS-MOS is not recognizable because she isn't in smash.

Xenogears actually started the trend though with Elly and her counterpart Myyah.

KOS-MOS and blue eyed KOS-MOS
Elma and true form Elma
Fiora and Meyneth (red eyed Fiora)
Pyra and Mythra as counterparts and Pneuma.
KOS-MOS is recognizable because 4 characters more recognizable than her, created by the same developer as her, look somewhat like her?

Jeez, sorry, I thought recognizable meant that people know who you are.
 
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Who cares about whether KOS-MOS is the face of the Xeno series or not when we all know we're just gonna get Yoshimitsu :4diddy:
 

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After attempting to find a template of the Smash Ultimate CSS with 16 placeholders so I could built a fan roster, I ended up finding a template of the CSS with room for 29 more DLC characters... I doubt we're getting that many, but just for fun... what are your ratings for this?

  • Fighters Pass
    1. Joker
    2. Hero
    3. Banjo & Kazooie
    4. Terry
    5. Phoenix Wright
  • Fighters Pass 2
    1. Rex & Pyra
    2. Heihachi
    3. Chorus Kids
    4. Lloyd
    5. Excitebiker
    6. BONUS CHARACTER - Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Fighters Pass 3
    1. Monster Hunter
    2. Akira Howard
    3. Adol
    4. Twintelle
    5. Crash
    6. BONUS CHARACTER - Geno
  • Fighters Pass 4
    1. Isaac
    2. Shantae
    3. Akira Yuki
    4. Shovel Knight
    5. Krystal
    6. BONUS CHARACTER - Waluigi
  • Fighters Pass 5
    1. Master Chief
    2. Saki
    3. Captain Syrup
    4. Ray Mk III
    5. Ratchet & Clank
    6. BONUS CHARACTER - Susie




That's true, but they will still recast if it's absolutely necessary (such as, in Heihachi's case, the current voice actor dying).


Lloyd deconfirmed.
Susie?

SUSIE?

You chose Susie? for Undertale?
 
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Who cares about whether KOS-MOS is the face of the Xeno series or not when we all know we're just gonna get Yoshimitsu :4diddy:
Please, we're gonna get Yoda with an Oddjob echo. The best Soul Calibur rep.
 
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Shulk is the most recognizable Xeno character to the average gamer while KOS-MOS is still the mascot for Monolith Soft.

We all good now?
 

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if kos-mos gets in they better ****ing bring back valedictory elegy as a track
 

Ayumi Tachibana

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You know what. Square is on board for some time now, it's entirely possible Sakurai just couldn't stop himself merging Xenogears and Xenosaga and Xenoblade.
I can see him fangasming again in front of a camera talks about how he managed to bring Xenogears spirits with KOS-MOS.
 
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Please, we're gonna get Yoda with an Oddjob echo. The best Soul Calibur rep.
Why play Kirby, G&W or Jigglypuff and duck under attacks when you can play Yoda, stand still and have 70% of all normal attacks whiff completely?
Seriously Bamco who the **** thought that was a good idea
 

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The joke is Fighter Pack 5 isn’t anyone yet, Sakurai is waiting to see which ‘deconfirmation’ causes the biggest stir online and that’s the character he reveals at the VGAs
 
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GoodGrief741

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I'm saying that's why she is the face of Monolith. Dont be ignorant.
I don't dispute that she's the face of Monolith, but that doesn't make her recognizable. Being the inspiration for something recognizable doesn't make you recognizable by association. The Batman being inspired by The Phantom doesn't make The Phantom recognizable. Mickey Mouse being patterned after Oswald the Lucky Rabbit doesn't make Oswald recognizable.
 

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also,
Elma's true form appearance? It's an homage to KOS-MOS. LOOK AT HER:
This is either an ugly screenshot or technology has advanced further than I thought. Seems like yesterday I was marveling at this games graphics...

A few weeks ago I was shocked at how off Super Mario Galaxy 2 looks now. Stop it games! Stop being old!

What do they reach for? Labatts? PBR? **** no.
The heck are Labatts? Also what's PBR?

Who cares about whether KOS-MOS is the face of the Xeno series or not when we all know we're just gonna get Yoshimitsu :4diddy:
I'd be down solely because it means I get to walk on my swords.
 
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I’m gonna make my final predictions now.

either phoenix dark souls or agumon is fighter 5

the cat leak is unreliable and fake. And the evidence to it is all likely just coincidences
 

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No Lloyd? Still haven’t pinned down any other Namco chars yet? Then it must finally be Klonoa’s time to strike!

Haha no that’s just my false hope talking again Dark Souls looking more and more likely to me.
 
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I've literally searched for it for hours before in Other, I cannot believe your heresy.
Maybe it needs to be unlocked? It's 100% in. I wish the game had a message for unlocking all songs. It's so obnoxious to unlock all music in this game.
 

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Nope, it's Goku.

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I've literally searched for it for hours before in Other, I cannot believe your heresy.
Goku probably wouldn't get in, since we already have Trunks, Gohan, Pan, and Android 17 as our Dragon Ball reps, which is already more than enough. Also with Tien as the Mii Costume.
 
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sabi's bull**** is honestly starting to wear me out. she can deconfirm all these characters but can't even give us the name of the character that might actually be in? c'mon on. at least those ****ty 4chan leakers give us something to work with. here, we're just playing a dumb, drawn out version of guess who.
 

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I've literally searched for it for hours before in Other, I cannot believe your heresy.
It's between Title Theme - Big Brain Academy and Personal Trainer: Cooking. According to SmashWiki, you do not have to unlock it.

EDIT: It can be played on Summit, Hanenbow, Balloon Fight, Living Room, Find Mii, Tomodachi Life, PictoChat 2, Wrecking Crew, and Wuhu Island. In my opinion, Find Mii is the only slightly suitable stage for it of these.
 
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I’m gonna make my final predictions now.

either phoenix dark souls or agumon is fighter 5

the cat leak is unreliable and fake. And the evidence to it is all likely just coincidences
Y'know, it kinda bugged me that after that one 4chan leak, Dark Souls is still a good frontrunner. It's just me, or it's probably my confusion.

As for KOS-MOS, gees, I could smell the memes if she gets in.
 

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you silly people fighting over namco and capcom

porky gang will rise on its own once the guess who is narrowed down

or it'll be byleth, idk
 

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*Sees Lloyd's deconfirmation*

PRINCE POSSE IS ONE STEP CLOSER!!!!

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So I'mma say that the Dragonborn is looking most likely to me at the minute.

At least if we start thinking that and Sabi looks into it it'll leak pretty fast. Bethesda is a watertight as a rowboat with termites these days.
And I'm happy about that! Dragonborn is my second most wanted, and honestly, I'm happy to see support for him increasing lately!
 
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