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One of the very few rules that we know about character selection in Smash is that it's limited to video game characters, or Nintendo consoles/peripherals in the case of R.O.B. Sakurai's explicitly stated that characters like Goku and Spongebob are never going to happen, and they're part of the reason why we got Mii fighters.
Yes, but we aren't making Smash. It seems pretty clear some people enjoy talking about the characters being in Smash, even just for fun. I don't see the harm
It just seems like it would end poorly - we could very well get threads about such quality content as half a dozen random Dragon Ball characters (Nappa! Bulla! Chaotzu!), Donald Duck, and Nicolas Cage, and most of them wouldn't amount to anything because there's nothing to realistically discuss.
Well I did suggest a megathread. Or maybe something a little extra like anime character thread, cartoon character thread, etc... I feel like it might benefit y'all as well, because you wouldn't have to lock all these excess threads from people that didn't read the rules.
That's a weird line to draw imo, and doesn't really solve the problem. People are gonna keep making threads for characters that they want, and somehow, Goku is still pretty decently requested despite what you said about DBZ games.
Problem with Crono is IIRC he's from a dead series no?
Yes. There hasn't been a Crono Trigger game in years.
That really decreases his chances then if we look what happened with Isaac despite how requested he was.
Neither have a real chance cause there aren't recognizable enough to actually sell well.
If any 4th parties ever got in Smash, people would throw 3rd parties and Nintendo characters out the window and Nintendo characters would have like no chance at getting in at all. It wouldn't be a true video game anymore.
It's still be a video game and we'd still get Nintendo newcomers as well.
Want I'm saying though is support for 4th party characters would be higher than 3rd party and Nintendo characters.
And it won't mean a thing. Support is pretty irrelevant if the companies aren't willing to hear it. Mii Fighters already exist to quell that factor, so... it won't matter.
Maybe I am or maybe I'm not. But anyway, it wouldn't turn out pretty for the community.
You shouldn't be worried. There will never be non video game characters in Smash.
By definition it would still be a video game.
Ash!Greninja definitely would've been a FS either way. It's still an anime-specific character. Just like Ash is. It got so damn popular they decided to put it into the games as a unique ability instead of being another Mega Evolution.
I strongly think the reference of the trainers in the For trophy was a product of localization, unless the Japanese Theme Song was as iconic over there as it was here.
Not true. Mega Man's conversation is mostly just them listing off Mega Man's arsenal, while Simon Belmont's doesn't seem to have any direct refferences. The closest I can find is this line:
That's proabably more a reference of how in 1986 both the original Castivaina and Kid Icarus were released.Pit said:
No, not really. It's the same thing. They have the same message entirely, saying Satoshi instead of Ash respectively. It was based entirely upon the dub song.
Yellow still stars Red. But yeah, that's Jessie and James' first game appearances. They weren't created for the games, though, nor was Ash. That's the difference between them and Lucario.
In both those cases, those were Pokemon made for the games. This doesn't apply to Ash, Jessie, or James, who were made independently as anime-specific characters. Same as Ash-Greninja. That's their purpose. Their own popularity got them cameos/appearances in the actual games, but that doesn't change that they're anime characters. Nintendo partially owns them, which is why they're easy to get in, that's all. Licensing is the only issue with non-game characters to begin with that really ever comes up.
No, it's literally saying the characters met. They literally have not met outside of Captain N in any way. It's a blatant reference to them getting together. They don't know each other beyond the show. Captain N is literally a Nintendo IP and even created without the studios, by a Nintendo Power employee. They knew what they were doing with the reference. Remember, Palutena said "Oh, you know him?" He won't know him outside of them actually meeting each other. It's a double reference. Both the time periods they were in, and saying he actually knows Simon(which again, is impossible outside of the show). I keep forgetting MegaMan doesn't have that kind of one, so never mind on that.
Not just that, but Lucario in this case was pretty much entirely anime-based. He has no real references to his game materials till Mega Lucario was a thing. Of course, he first debuted in the anime before the games(but was made for the games), so there wasn't anything else to work off. They even spent a year on his Aura Mechanic. That's key to his character. There was no game appearance to base off of in this case. It depends their appearances, and he'll take whatever works and fits the character well, regardless of whether it's a game/manga/anime/whatever. None of that is relevant when it comes figuring out how to make them work.
How have I never thought about Darth Revan for Smash before? And then we could get the Kotor games on the Switch. And then while I'm in my dream world they can put out kotor 3 as well, and a kotor movie.
Probably because Darth Revan is still a Star Wars character and isn't even game-only either. Maybe you also read Golden's point that a character being from a game first won't matter if their franchise wasn't a game first, as they will always go for the main character(s) first. In this case, Yoda, Darth Vader. They're the big guns. Same reason why Android 21 has no chance. Goku will always be the first Dragon Ball character in(not that he'll be playable realistically. And I doubt he'd been a spirit or even a Mii costume, despite there being zero real rules against him being in a cameo role).
Sorry my post was meant 90% in jest, and the last 10% being pure Star Wars fanboyism.
If it helps, we did consider allowing characters like Revan to have an actual topic.
Revan is the main character for the Knights of the Old Republic series while Starkiller comes from The Force Unleashed.
Ah, thank you. I remember them both being made for the game canon in itself. Later on, they became part of the non-game canon. My guess is that Disney didn't like the idea of separate canons.
What a series is inspired by isn't the same thing as what the series is. Shin Megami Tensei is a game series. It's its own thing. It's like Command & Conquer. It was nothing more than a hack, but has its own unique properties that makes it what it is.
So you wouldn't say it's the closet we've gotten to a multimedia character?
I honestly don't know what you mean by "based off of", honestly. Is it more of a homage to the novels(they're novels? Movies? Visual novels? Comics? Manga? Anime? Cartoon? I don't really know). Cause keep in mind Link is inspired by Peter Pan to a degree, which is even more blatant in OOT where he is surrounded by children and gets a fairy companion.
