Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Night Gale]

also ain’t 15-16? Though idk how old that is in Hedgehog

He's either 5 months old in human years or around 200 years old in hedgehog years, if we base it off of real world measurements. That **** is pointless but also kind of funny to think about.

 

[SKX31]

What are some new gen Pokémon you would pick?

I would personally still love a lot of prior gen Pokémon in the game. Lycanroc could be interesting or maybe Lunala. I'm a little tired of starters being the Pokémon of choice to add.

#DecidueyeGang

Seriously though, I love how Incineroar acts and plays, but if it was not that or Decidueye (I'm not bothered that much either way) I'd take Hattrem in a heartbeat. Aaaw, it just looks so cute!

A small update to the Chinese rumor post I did yesterday: The Chinese Switch storefront I talked about put up placeholder links recently (I thought there was something strange about that personally - especially the 9999 yuan price tag), and the red text on the links reads "Link for testing purpose. Do not purchase."

 

[Flik]

I'd rather see fully evolved pokemon in as playble characters in Smash, it doesn't feel right to have a weaker version and we run the risk of having another Raichu.

Side note, I wish there was a way to "lock" the pokemon you're using with Pokemon Trainer, so you aren't forced to change after a K.O.

 

[Seanapotamus]

So we're guaranteed to see Smash Ultimate at The Game Awards on the 12th. It had just been nominated for a few awards (Best Family Game, Best Fighting Game, and Game of the Year). Doesn't mean a character reveal is guaranteed (I think it's likely, but it depends of it's FP #5 or the character after that) but it's great to see Smash have a presence during the show.

So a question for everyone is... Assuming we get a reveal for FP #5 during The Game Awards, which character do you think has the best chance of being revealed during the show? For me I think it's a Capcom character, which is either Leon/Jill (especially since the Resident Evil 2 remake got nominated as GOTY) or Dante (the latter is more of a gut feeling, so don't take my word for it).

 

[Guynamednelson]

to have a weaker version

Good thing that's not the case in Smash.

Besides, this is a game where Samus without her armor can still compete with a god. There's inconsistent power levels without every Pokemon not being fully evolved.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

So we're guaranteed to see Smash Ultimate at The Game Awards on the 12th. It had just been nominated for a few awards (Best Family Game, Best Fighting Game, and Game of the Year). Doesn't mean a character reveal is guaranteed (I think it's likely, but it depends of it's FP #5 or the character after that) but it's great to see Smash have a presence during the show.

So a question for everyone is... Assuming we get a reveal for FP #5 during The Game Awards, which character do you think has the best chance of being revealed during the show? For me I think it's a Capcom character, which is either Leon/Jill (especially since the Resident Evil 2 remake got nominated as GOTY) or Dante (the latter is more of a gut feeling, so don't take my word for it).

Was there anything Persona 5-related at last year's Game Awards, other than Joker's Smash reveal?

If Fighter 5 is getting revealed at the Game Awards, it's entirely possible that it's a character that has nothing to do with any of the nominated games, or heck, nothing to do with anything else shown there. A Resident Evil character or Dante are both possible, but it could also be someone like a Monster Hunter (don't know if the Iceborne expansion for Monster Hunter World will have any presence) or Phoenix Wright.

 

[Deleted member]

Was there anything Persona 5-related at last year's Game Awards, other than Joker's Smash reveal?

If Fighter 5 is getting revealed at the Game Awards, it's entirely possible that it's a character that has nothing to do with any of the nominated games, or heck, nothing to do with anything else shown there. A Resident Evil character or Dante are both possible, but it could also be someone like a Monster Hunter (don't know if the Iceborne expansion for Monster Hunter World will have any presence) or Phoenix Wright.

Iceborne was nominated for best RPG but nothing else

 

[Deleted member]

So we're guaranteed to see Smash Ultimate at The Game Awards on the 12th. It had just been nominated for a few awards (Best Family Game, Best Fighting Game, and Game of the Year). Doesn't mean a character reveal is guaranteed (I think it's likely, but it depends of it's FP #5 or the character after that) but it's great to see Smash have a presence during the show.

So a question for everyone is... Assuming we get a reveal for FP #5 during The Game Awards, which character do you think has the best chance of being revealed during the show? For me I think it's a Capcom character, which is either Leon/Jill (especially since the Resident Evil 2 remake got nominated as GOTY) or Dante (the latter is more of a gut feeling, so don't take my word for it).

Joker was a HUGE announcement and had probably the greatest teaser with them 'hacking' the game awards. I could see them doing another reveal, but I don't know if anything will top that lol. Pokemon will have been out long enough to be considered for the Game Awards so while it may be a bit new (and plenty of people are still sore about certain aspects), the Game Awards would be a good stage to introduce a new fighter from Sword & Shield as the first Fighter Pass wave 2 character. Other than that, with all the crazy Waluigi outcry that came about when Smash Ultimate first came out, I can honestly see them announcing Waluigi as a character in the same way Piranha Plant was (free for those who buy Fighter's Pass Wave 2).

 

[SKX31]

So we're guaranteed to see Smash Ultimate at The Game Awards on the 12th. It had just been nominated for a few awards (Best Family Game, Best Fighting Game, and Game of the Year). Doesn't mean a character reveal is guaranteed (I think it's likely, but it depends of it's FP #5 or the character after that) but it's great to see Smash have a presence during the show.

So a question for everyone is... Assuming we get a reveal for FP #5 during The Game Awards, which character do you think has the best chance of being revealed during the show? For me I think it's a Capcom character, which is either Leon/Jill (especially since the Resident Evil 2 remake got nominated as GOTY) or Dante (the latter is more of a gut feeling, so don't take my word for it).

TGA feels to me like a crapshoot when it comes to characters. Could be anyone, from KOS MOS / Travis Touchdown to Gordon Freeman or Jill / Leon.

I have no idea whom to put as a favorite - there are loads of dark horses, even if the deconfirmed character list is indeed true.

 

[GKMLTTSB]

If there is an announcement there, "It's gonna be who it's gonna be."

I don't think the presence of a game in the list of nominees is going to be particularly relevant to a new character announcement since Nintendo likely would have decided all that before there were a solid grasp of what the nominations were going to end up being.
Unless it is Sam Bridges, because there's no way Death Stranding was ever not going to be thrown onto a pedestal. >_>

All that said, they better not do FFXIV dirty... Well, dirtier than leaving Shadowbringers out of Best Score/Narrative.
GTAV: Casino Simulator beating out Shadowbringers for Best Expansion at the Golden Joystick Awards was... oof...

 

[AdamBel731]

All Smashboards users, the Game of the Year nominees have been revealed, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is on there! (Plus a nominee for best fighting game.)

Everyone, PLEASE vote for Smash, we all know the countless hours of love and passion poured into the game. Sakurai and his team deserve these awards. Please, pass this around wherever you can and spread the word! Let's all show Sakurai how grateful we are for all him and his team have done for us!


Best Fighting Game:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196848900977545217?s=19


Game of the Year:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196838294392332289?s=19

(Of course, if you feel like another game should win these categories you do you, but for those who don't... please vote!)

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like Sekiro is going to run away with the Awards this year

 

[P.Kat]

Goddamnit! I know that there are more fascinating Bandai Namco alternatives, and I advocate unfamiliar and or unconventional characters and s***. I also want Velvet Crowe, T-elos, and Reiko Nagase from Ridge Racer immensely, and Jack or Kazumi Mishima from Tekken to a lesser extent. Though right now I'm going to promote someone that would bring a kick-ass new movement option to Super Smash.

We customarily associate the input with projectiles such as Hadoken and - from Fatal Fury Special onward - Power Wave. However, the motion has other uses and my favorite is Angel Step by far because of its significance and versatility. Angel Step is the primary means of movement, attack, and defense for the person who employs it. It can never be used mindlessly because the numerous follow-up attacks it enables require proper execution, spacing, and timing. For instance, it is a mobile counter but its counter window is very short and you are still susceptible to being attacked. In order to perform certain strikes you also need to be the proper distance from your opponent. If you press forward or quickly input the motion a second time, the character gains momentum, crouches closer to the ground and uses a maneuver called Angel Twin Step with its own set of uses. This sounds intimidating but try to envision a character who can bring a mechanic like this to Super Smash. It originates from a three dimensional fighting game but it is honestly more fitting for a two dimensional one and would be easy af to implement.

We could get all that s*** from just one move assigned to directional buttons only. A new way to manuever and approach; a new way to dodge and counter; and a new way to combo and use follow-up attacks.

Now I'm going to praise the character like they praise their long forgotten gods.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Sophitia is the kind of character I would ordinarily pay no attention to. On the surface she is an uninspired holy soldier; a cookie cutter girl scout. Boring. That is, until you realize that she fights like a complete savage. This betch doesn't mind resorting to neck snaps and groin attacks; she will launch herself at you with all of her weight ass first if it means total victory. Sophitia is genuinely sorry for doing so, but she apologizes with an ambience of dignity and confidence. There isn't a line she won't cross to do what she believes is right and she ended up being a total badass.

Mentioning Sophitia reminded me that I also wanted her as a character in Smash. It also reminds me of good times and bad in the arcade when playing Soul Edge. I was 7-10 at the time, so I though the bigger the weapon the better character. So when I was fighting Sophitia, I thought "Nice butter knife, gonna make toast for yourself? Better pray that shield holds." In less than a minute it was game over. She was so fast, s-so brutal I couldn't believe my eyes. She quickly became one of my mains.

Blaze is one if the best characters of the cast, and would be accepted as an echo if the company would actually use her again. She should have been in Forced over Classic Sonic.




You know, Shantae would be a great addition while checking off both the female and the non-white boxes. Not to mention a spunky, emotive character, unique silhouette, one of the oldest indies, history with Nintendo, great music, huge variety for potential moveset, works with color theory, another possible fun-even-if-less-popular samurai comment, wouldnt have to get Mai'd, less hype worthy to finish the pass with, has a merchandise leak slated for early next year, company refuses to mention anything about Smash online, and has a new game slated to come out soon but has no news on when officially when there really should be an announcement by now if it's getting delayed. And many other bread crumbs.

Blaze would be great, however she has more than enough qualities about her that being an echo wouldn't work. For one thing unlike Sonic she spins horizontally, and unlike Sonic whose jump animation in Smash is mostly jumping as a ball, Blaze can jump more acrobatic like. She also can manipulate fire into construct like swords, she capable of levitation, teleportation, even if her Final Smash is similar to Sonic's in the way they transformation, she...

Spoiler: well see for yourself

That's why I think she should be a stand alone/unique character instead of an echo. Also definitely rooting for Shantae to get in hopefully as the 5th fighter

Shantae is straight up the most perfect choice for smash, makes it a tragedy that she's deconfirmed.

Don't give up hope just yet. She still has a chance. I don't think her being a spirit disconfirms anything.

 

[SKX31]

All Smashboards users, the Game of the Year nominees have been revealed, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is on there! (Plus a nominee for best fighting game.)

Everyone, PLEASE vote for Smash, we all know the countless hours of love and passion poured into the game. Sakurai and his team deserve these awards. Please, pass this around wherever you can and spread the word! Let's all show Sakurai how grateful we are for all him and his team have done for us!


Best Fighting Game:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196848900977545217?s=19


Game of the Year:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196838294392332289?s=19

(Of course, if you feel like another game should win these categories you do you, but for those who don't... please vote!)

*Notices the "Fresh Indie Game presented by Subway" category.*

*Notices that Untitled Goose Game's in that category.*

*Honk.*

 

[KatKit]

Elma gang forever and despite it seeming like she'll never make it I'll never stop wanting her.

It's always good to see posts like this that try to keep the rhythm going. I think Elma legit has a shot; she never felt super unlikely to me and still doesn't.

*She says as she then proceeds to cry in Uncontrollable*

Fun fact for those here are unfamiliar with her: Elma loves cats.

Sony's very stingy. If anything they'll probably have them use one of their lesser known IPs such as Kat.

Don'tgivemehope.jpg

Kat would be a cool way to bridge the gap between the two companies, to say the absolute least.

That'd actually be a dream come true if they gave us Kat. If she's even as half as fun to use in Smash as she was in Play Station All Stars and Gravity Rush (still have yet to beat GR2), then bring her over.

It seems the squad is out in full force lately... all 5 of us, ahaha. It would be a dream come true though; Kat is hands down my favorite video game protagonist this generation. It's hard to describe, but Kat has a very Nintendo feel to her. Perhaps because Gravity Rush is upbeat and charming, and hella ambitious and innovative. Moreover, it was originally designed specifically for a handheld console, too. It's the sole reason I bought a PSVita (and she's the sole reason I bought PSABR). It would be perfect on the Switch. If only Nintendo could adopt it.

I think Kat would be even more fun in Smash than her last fighting game appearance because she got new powers since then (and it helps that Smash is just a straight up superior game lol).

Edit: Kat could use the love, rather than catching dust on Sony shelf and a Hekseville stage or the other cities would make for some great Zero G Shenanigans

Yep!

Hey, that just means KatKit wins in the end.

Nah, I think we would all be winners on that blessed day... but especially me.

He's either 5 months old in human years or around 200 years old in hedgehog years, if we base it off of real world measurements. That **** is pointless but also kind of funny to think about.

Time does not apply to Sonic because he can outrun death.

(Also... does anything else think this Meowth smiley is sassy? Just look at those paws!)

Hmmm... there's a lot of cat related things in this post. KOS-MOS confirmed?

 

[SKX31]

It seems the squad is out in full force lately... all 5 of us, ahaha. It would be a dream come true though; Kat is hands down my favorite video game protagonist this generation. It's hard to describe, but Kat has a very Nintendo feel to her. Perhaps because Gravity Rush is upbeat and charming, and hella ambitious and innovative. Moreover, it was originally designed specifically for a handheld console, too. It's the sole reason I bought a PSVita (and she's the sole reason I bought PSABR). It would be perfect on the Switch. If only Nintendo could adopt it.

I think Kat would be even more fun in Smash than her last fighting game appearance because she got new powers since then (and it helps that Smash is just a straight up superior game lol).

I'd also love Kat, because of her character, her games themselves and her potential moveset. If she could become PlayStation AllStar's (seriously, she's got combos and kill confirms for days - when Supers are the only way to kill you absolutely want kill confirms), she can also become an insanely fun character. I mean, this is what she could do in PSASBR (video's with extra classic Skrillex, so you know):

 

[yeet123]

Me: *Goes to vote for Smash as GoTY again*
Game Awards: “You’ve already voted*
Me: pic.twitter.com/ZrBENNDZqd

— TSR | 👑𝔻𝕚𝕤𝕔𝕠𝕣𝕕𝔹𝕠𝕪👑 (@TheDiscordBoy) November 19, 2019

Fighter #5 is going to blow the roof off the building.

 

[kirbsmash]

Give me Sackboy or death!

 

[Will]

Me: *Goes to vote for Smash as GoTY again*
Game Awards: “You’ve already voted*
Me: pic.twitter.com/ZrBENNDZqd

— TSR | 👑𝔻𝕚𝕤𝕔𝕠𝕣𝕕𝔹𝕠𝕪👑 (@TheDiscordBoy) November 19, 2019

Fighter #5 is going to blow the roof off the building.

hilarious how immediately down the twitter chain you see kpop within the second reply

 

[Jassassino]

I really dislike TGA's award decisions. Last year with so many going to RDR2 was questionable. Wouldn't be surprised if this year, GTAV won best family party game.

 

[Megadoomer]

Fighter #5 is going to blow the roof off the building.

There's an official Sonic clip that works just as well for this:

 

[osby]

Give me Sackboy or death!

Ask and you shall receive.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ask and you shall receive.
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Death’s already in the game tho

hilarious how immediately down the twitter chain you see kpop within the second reply

KPop Twitter be wildin man

 

[Jocario Zero]

It's always good to see posts like this that try to keep the rhythm going. I think Elma legit has a shot; she never felt super unlikely to me and still doesn't.

*She says as she then proceeds to cry in Uncontrollable*

Fun fact for those here are unfamiliar with her: Elma loves cats.

I do love cats but i consider myself an Elma person (and an Fiora person but thats not the point right now). #ElmaGang

 

[Ivander]

Fun fact for those here are unfamiliar with her: Elma loves cats.

It was fun learning that fact when I did her one Support talk, especially being a cat person myself, but damn, she has nooooo sense of humour.

 

[Morning Raven]

Spoiler

Sophitia is the kind of character I would ordinarily pay no attention to. On the surface she is an uninspired holy soldier; a cookie cutter girl scout. Boring. That is, until you realize that she fights like a complete savage. This betch doesn't mind resorting to neck snaps and groin attacks; she will launch herself at you with all of her weight ass first if it means total victory. Sophitia is genuinely sorry for doing so, but she apologizes with an ambience of dignity and confidence. There isn't a line she won't cross to do what she believes is right and she ended up being a total badass.

Mentioning Sophitia reminded me that I also wanted her as a character in Smash. It also reminds me of good times and bad in the arcade when playing Soul Edge. I was 7-10 at the time, so I though the bigger the weapon the better character. So when I was fighting Sophitia, I thought "Nice butter knife, gonna make toast for yourself? Better pray that shield holds." In less than a minute it was game over. She was so fast, s-so brutal I couldn't believe my eyes. She quickly became one of my mains.
Blaze would be great, however she has more than enough qualities about her that being an echo wouldn't work. For one thing unlike Sonic she spins horizontally, and unlike Sonic whose jump animation in Smash is mostly jumping as a ball, Blaze can jump more acrobatic like. She also can manipulate fire into construct like swords, she capable of levitation, teleportation, even if her Final Smash is similar to Sonic's in the way they transformation, she...

Spoiler: well see for yourself

That's why I think she should be a stand alone/unique character instead of an echo. Also definitely rooting for Shantae to get in hopefully as the 5th fighter

Don't give up hope just yet. She still has a chance. I don't think her being a spirit disconfirms anything.

Sophitia would be cool. I remember thinking her old SC2 designs both looked like Zelda.

Blaze would certainly work better as an Isabelle. Even then, she would work better as a Sonic mixed with Lucario. But most characters cant work like Sonic better than Shadow, and even he has enough material to be a standalone. But I would expect him before Tails or Knuckles, (if you had Goku, you'd expect Vegeta before Krillin and Picolo). More likely also before Dr. Eggman.

If spirits deconfirmed, Sakurai would have made that announcement himself. While less likely, there's no real reason to count Shantae put yet.

 

[Lionel_B]

What are some new gen Pokémon you would pick?

I would personally still love a lot of prior gen Pokémon in the game. Lycanroc could be interesting or maybe Lunala. I'm a little tired of starters being the Pokémon of choice to add.

I admit that I will be inconsolable without Decidueye.

Intelleon is my starter in SwSh, but I'm not sure he can take his place in my heart. If Decidueye had been in the game, I think I would rather have supported Cinderace, and stupidly proposed Corviknight, Boltund and Dragapult.

 

[Deleted member]

Cats are epic.

Elma is epic.

 

[Jassassino]

How about (Pokémon Galar region form spoilers)

Spoiler

Galarian Rapidash alongside a normal variant echo

 

[3BitSaurus]

Cats are epic.

Elma is epic.

Wait, so if:

Cats = epic and Elma = epic -> Elma = cats?

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, so if:

Cats = epic and Elma = epic -> Elma = cats?

Probably.

But first we need to talk about parallel universes.

 

[Mastermiine]

Kinda late to the party, but I skimmed people where talking about a Pokemon Rep.

What is everyone's thoughts on a second pokemkng Trainer with a Gen 3,5,8 mix? Who would you choose in this case?

For me it's Scorebunny, Dewott, and Sceptile.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Probably.

But first we need to talk about parallel universes.

"So by using the epicness of those six cats, we can complete the blueprint for our Elma."

 

[Jassassino]

Kinda late to the party, but I skimmed people where talking about a Pokemon Rep.

What is everyone's thoughts on a second pokemkng Trainer with a Gen 3,5,8 mix? Who would you choose in this case?

For me it's Scorebunny, Dewott, and Sceptile.

Brilliant idea. They could even take a look like Blue! I'd like Mudkip, Raboot and Serperior.

 

[Jomosensual]

IDK if mentioned already, but the VGA awards noms are out

https://thegameawards.com/nominees

Smash is up for Game of the Year, Family Game of the Year, and Fighting Game of the Year. 3 Houses is up for Stratagy Game of the year and Nintendo basically took over the Family Game of the Year noms. Should be an interesting night even if we don't get any Smash characters revealed

 

[ZelDan]

Hopefully Three Houses wins the Strategy game category. might make up for the fact it didn't atleast get a nom for music...maybe...

And hopefully Smash ultimate wins either fighting game or GOTY (or both, I'd be fine with that)

Also nice to see Katana Zero in the indie category. That game was really dope.

 

[Dark Bagel]

Kinda late to the party, but I skimmed people where talking about a Pokemon Rep.

What is everyone's thoughts on a second pokemkng Trainer with a Gen 3,5,8 mix? Who would you choose in this case?

For me it's Scorebunny, Dewott, and Sceptile.

For me, in this case, its not a matter of choosing the 3 pokemon the trainer cycles through, its about figuring out a trainer that fits with an intergenerational lineup like the one you described. A gym leader with a selection of various pokemon across generations, all with a shared type, is something that could work. Or a champion with a strong lineup of multi-gen pokemon, like Iris.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

All Smashboards users, the Game of the Year nominees have been revealed, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is on there! (Plus a nominee for best fighting game.)

Everyone, PLEASE vote for Smash, we all know the countless hours of love and passion poured into the game. Sakurai and his team deserve these awards. Please, pass this around wherever you can and spread the word! Let's all show Sakurai how grateful we are for all him and his team have done for us!


Best Fighting Game:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196848900977545217?s=19


Game of the Year:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196838294392332289?s=19

(Of course, if you feel like another game should win these categories you do you, but for those who don't... please vote!)

Ok but Outer Worlds is looking really good and I wanna piss off Todd Howard

 

[SNEKeater]

Three Houses should at least be nominated in best music besides best strategy game.

There's an upcoming Smash event, where Playstation will be attending.

I'm suspecting that a PS character may be coming to Smash, and it will be announced at this event.

From the top of my head, these characters come to mind:

Spyro
Crash Bandicoot
Lara Croft
Nathan Drake
Kratos

Maybe a Tekken fighter?

So many possibilities.

All I know is, a lot go people are going to be pleasantly surprised, and an equal number of people are going to be pissed their favourite didn't make it in.

Spyro, Crash and Lara aren't Playstation or Sony characters.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm afraid to post my usual greeting today, largely due to the mess I made yesterday. But hear me out: my stance still stands firm. Female FP5 or riot.

Also good luck to Smash for getting Game of the Year.