Newbie Mafia 12 FMP Fumoffu!: Game over!

[th3kuzinator]

@Kuz, your town read doesn't have to do with X1.

Then why would you say that a townX1 flip doesn't make you sure of scumKuz? That implies his town flip would change you read of me to null-leaning scum. Apparently it does have something to do with X1.

 

[Blacknight99923]

HEY SCUM

 

[Blacknight99923]

and I know JTB says he's not going to post till later.

But everyone please give us your thoughts

 

[Seikend]

Trying to think this through.

If you accept that JTB wanted a Kuz wagon purely for reads, then what he has said does make sense. However, nothing about his post gave me that impression.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12592429&postcount=1198

X1, is it possible that we can wagon kuz toDay before Seikend?

I thought he thought Kuz was more scummy, but I guess that's a failure on my part to not question.

At the moment I'm considering JTBscum, but I'd need to think it through. I know JTB is making a habit of getting mislynched early on in games, could be for the same reason as this.

@JTB What finished Town games were you mislynched early?

 

[Blacknight99923]

so you want to ignore the fact he asked for permission?

 

[Seikend]

He was either being cautious and "asking for permission" or he was looking for support for a wagon. A one person wagon doesn't cause any pressure.


The thing with JTB's actions is that I can understand the reasoning for if he was town /or/ scum. At the moment I am leaning towards scum. But I'm not certain at all.

 

[JTB]

I have a quick break to post, I'll come back to you Seikend later on

@Soren, give me your own reasoning as to why I'm scum. Do you think a JTB lynch is better than an X1 lynch? What do you see upon a town JTB flip? A scum JTB flip?

 

[Blacknight99923]

if your town X1 is still scum.

X1 is still scummier than you.

You have several inconstencies and I haven't seen you actually hunt scum either.

my top scum picks are
X1
Seikend
JTB

 

[Blacknight99923]

seikend is borderline null though

 

[JTB]

Point out the inconsistencies. Also tell me why seikend appeared in your scum list now.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Seikend is a hunch nothing more. Hence almost null.

Your inconsistencies are everything Kuz and Soupa posted

 

[JTB]

Explain your hunch on Seikend.

This is happening way earlier than I wanted.

 

[JTB]

@Seikend, I was ML'ed D1 in Bingo and Pizza.

 

[Blacknight99923]

A hunch is a hunch. Seikend gives me a gut feeling as I said before though I consider him basically null, but if I had to pick a 3rd scum its seikend atm. it may change the next time he posts, it may not.

 

[JTB]

This is my first game so I cannot comment on newbie 11.

If you weren't skimming, you wouldn't had posted this. Kuz brought it up in his defense against Kuz, as well as linking us to the posts appropriate to the situation.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah X1 lynch is better.

Jtb what do you think about a X1 lynch?

 

[JTB]

I am set on an X1 lynch toDay, I don't want to deviate from it.

 

[JTB]

Then why would you say that a townX1 flip doesn't make you sure of scumKuz? That implies his town flip would change you read of me to null-leaning scum. Apparently it does have something to do with X1.

It means that X1's case sucks and wasn't convincing that you are scum at all.

 

[JTB]

Oh Seikend, I re-read your question, there isn't a completed game in which I was ml'ed as town.

But it doesn't really change anything at all since I've already flipped.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok good. I'll give more thoughts later, I have to go to class soon. Leave me some questions to get back to.

 

[Blacknight99923]

If you weren't skimming, you wouldn't had posted this. Kuz brought it up in his defense against Kuz, as well as linking us to the posts appropriate to the situation.

I believe Kux or Soupa asked for comments about what happened in newbie 11. Since I was posting next I explained why I couldn't post about it.

Your post makes no sense

Kuz brought it up in defense against Kuz?

what?

Are you trying to make posts out of nothing? Immeadiately after I tell you you aren't scum hunting?

 

[JTB]

A hunch is a hunch. Seikend gives me a gut feeling as I said before though I consider him basically null, but if I had to pick a 3rd scum its seikend atm. it may change the next time he posts, it may not.

Soren, have you taken a firm stance against anyone this game?

Are you ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that I'm scum? Aside from Kuz/Soup posts, what is scummy about me?

 

[Blacknight99923]

The fact that your personality completely changes the second we place votes on you
I have firm stances against you and X1

 

[JTB]

If you ignore the obvious mistake I made in that post, then it should be clear I was speaking about Kuz and X1.

 

[JTB]

My personality hasn't changed, I've just started posting again since Touhou is in the night phase.

 

[Blacknight99923]

If you aren't scum then you need to show us evidence of it.

 

[Blacknight99923]

And your personality has drastically changed from a few pages ago.

 

[JTB]

You seem to be oblivious to the fact that I'm scumhunting right now

 

[Blacknight99923]

if your town X1 is still scum.

X1 is still scummier than you.

You have several inconstencies and I haven't seen you actually hunt scum either.

my top scum picks are
X1
Seikend
JTB

After I posted that you weren't

 

[JTB]

Except I started scumhunting in the post prior to that

 

[Fynal]

skimmed whats happened today while i was in school. will post more inabit.

@Fynal: Since Soren has been pretty obvtown these past few Days IMO (you said you agreed iirc) how would you feel about Tery being copped toNight? Answer both of these truthfully, as what you say will gratefully influence the direction of this game.

my original reasoning was that since terry appeared to be posting more than soren, we should cop soren, who would/will give us much less to analyze. The exact opposite has happened, sorens very active and terry isnt. As such, same reasoning, cop terry.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Fynal whats your thoughts on copping JTB?

 

[JTB]

If you aren't scum then you need to show us evidence of it.

In that case, show us all evidence of what you have contributed towards catching scum.

 

[Blacknight99923]

Except I started scumhunting in the post prior to that

You just typed out the fastest response you could think of you support your claim.

Links this evidence.

 

[Blacknight99923]

In that case, show us all evidence of what you have contributed towards catching scum.

I'm not the one under suspicion and only your are under any belief that I'm not town, oh wait your scum so you already know. Your making the fastest possible posts to clear yourself.

 

[JTB]

You are kidding me right.

I just said I started scumhunting in the post right before the one your quoted.

 

[JTB]

My posts are fast because you are asking questions that can be answered if you thought about them for a few seconds.

Except for me posting alot more, I doubt you follow the phases of other games to know this is my only game atm.

 

[Blacknight99923]

If you had taken a stronger stance against Seikend, I would consider it wishy-washy. But you didn't.

It appears to me that the intent of your question was to ask me if you look scummy.

I guess. People asking if they look scummy to others has always been a peeve of mine because it gives scum a chance to change their playstyles to that of more pro-town while using the WIFOM that they are just trying to be more town.

So I went back to the post you made above my link. It was asking why I thought you were scummy.


And then I thought back to these posts

 

[JTB]

Come on, you are just being ******** now.

I have a quick break to post, I'll come back to you Seikend later on

@Soren, give me your own reasoning as to why I'm scum. Do you think a JTB lynch is better than an X1 lynch? What do you see upon a town JTB flip? A scum JTB flip?

 

[JTB]

Laptop is dying, probably going to randomly stop posting soon.