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Newbie Mafia 12 FMP Fumoffu!: Game over!

th3kuzinator

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Why does no one understand me, geezus.

We have 5 days until the deadline. I want to dole out pressure to other players before getting back to X1. Its not a hard concept to understand and I just havn't figured out where I am going first.

@Ran: What do you currently think about AA.
 

th3kuzinator

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I wanna push Tery's slot the most but I figure I should give him some time to read the thread before I do that. Its a shame he wont be done by the deadline, though <_<

Going to re-look at Seikend, Fynal and JTB before the deadline, I think.
 

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Yeah I agree he does need time to get his stances in first.

AA, just saw him claim and do nothing else. Not helping much, but this is anti-town.

I like Soren being pro-active. Don't you, Kuz?
 

Blacknight99923

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soren likes soren being proactive

Kuz please post any current reasons for suspicions behind JTB Fynal Seikend no matter how small they are i want to hear your thoughts. You are potentially drawing X1s lynch to the last day because of this so i would like to know your current scumspicions
 

ranmaru

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It's fine that he pressures 2 other people besides X1, but other than that is a bit too much.

Just look into fynal. Then go back to X1 later.

We can't pressure ALOT of people because we don't actually have info at all. Pressure 1 other person, lynch X1, and then pressure others by connections depending on the flips.
 

asianaussie

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Apologies for leaving thread, I hadn't viewed anything else on SWF today and I had to leave 10 minutes before I actually did to pick up a friend for a sports meet. I found out from an MRI today that I have a significant back problem, I'll be dedicating tomorrow to physio and stuff, so V/LA for tomorrow.

I lost a significant post before kuz asked for the claim addressing some of kuz's points due to SWF hating me, but I'll summarise them.

kuz was right about some stuff, I overinterpreted a lot of his attack as meta and didn't understand the difference between scumhunting and standard debating, so I'll take back my first and second paragraphs at least. I did want to point out that X1 vs kuz was possibly TvT. X1 did have a couple tanks contradictions, which kuz jumped on and attacked with his wraiths. X1's defence to the contradictions were, of course, more tanks and a couple goliaths contradictions, since you can't really logic your way out of a contradiction without more factories dedicated to goliaths more contradictions.

Neither is particularly scummy.

My previous scumpicks, Seikend (possibly Soren) were weakened, Seikend because in re-reading he really hasn't shown scumminess, just a bit of indecisiveness (which changed recently). I play rather conservatively as well. I think Soren is most likely town, his incessant attacks have basically cleared his name for me, though it is interesting he only appeared when there is a definite target to attack.

@ Soren, what is your opinion on Seikend? Do you have any other outstanding town/scum picks?

Will UTB be replaced?
 

Seikend

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Dear Kuz, are you serious about AA?

@AA Who do you want lynched toDay?

@JTB Thoughts on AA and Kuz please
 

asianaussie

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@ Seikend, my scumpicks just weakened considerably, so...

Ask me later, but right now I'm tentatively leaning towards either you or one of the inactives (maybe TBS?). Neither is anywhere near certain, more content from TBS and Soren is required.
 

th3kuzinator

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Dear Seikend,

I am. I don't know why I would lie about that tell.

Soren is almost unconditionally town imo. He wouldn't have forgotten about Gova being dead if he had been on the scum team and killed him.

I remember why I didn't want to go after Seikend toDay.

1. X1 (IC)
2. Kuz (IC)
3. Ranmaru (SE)
4. TheBlueSpot

5. JTB
6. Fynal

7. Seikend
8. Gatlin UTDZac Terywj
9. Soupamario
10. Blacknight99923 (Soren)
11. asianaussie

NOTE: This is NOT my new town/scum list, this is just the current lynch pool. I want Tery gone most behind X1, tbh, but he needs time to take stances before the deadline to they can be referenced later. Tery is yellow because I want him copped toNight instead of lynched toDay.

I want to further check up Seikend, but I will do that toMorrow.

Most of the gripes I have against Fynal are that he simply is too smart and that he seems knows too much. Other than that he has been playing well and faulting for playing too well in a newbie game is a **** move.

Probably going to be looking at JTB. I don't know where the hell he is, though.
 

th3kuzinator

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We're probably mass claiming toMorrow btw.

@Cop: Get one of Fynal/JTB/Tery/X1

Call me crazy as **** but I am seriously considering saving X1 from a lynch toDay and having him be copped. If for some reason he is town I want another person with good deduction skills alive with me toMorrow. If we end up lynching X1 toDay, cop one of the other 3. If we lynch anyone else, cop X1 imo.
 

Seikend

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Ergh. I agree that AA's claim is most likely a town-tell, but to go from a lynch candidate to a town pick just from that seems extreme.

Likewise I would disagree that X1's claim of VT is scummy. VT is just the standard name for PR-less town that any player with experience here knows off the top of their head. If he didn't bother to check his PM correctly it's a very easy mistake to make, one that an actual VT could make.
 

th3kuzinator

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Agreed that X1's use of "VT" is null.

Just saying that AA's use of town vanilla is probably a town tell and it AT LEAST shows us that AA/X1 scumteam is HIGHLY unlikely, which is contrary to what I thought earlier.
 

th3kuzinator

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And it may be a drastic change, but thats how I play town. Gotta keep scum on their toes.

I am in no way completely clearing AA, but I no longer want him lynched toDay if you catch my drift.

@Seikend: Do you know why I like 1572?
 

JTB

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I apologize for not posting the past few days. When the X1-Kuz exchange started, I felt overwhelmed by the content and had no idea how to jump in correctly, so I started lurking for the time being. I'll be re-reading and posting at some point today.
 

th3kuzinator

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@Fynal: Since Soren has been pretty obvtown these past few Days IMO (you said you agreed iirc) how would you feel about Tery being copped toNight? Answer both of these truthfully, as what you say will gratefully influence the direction of this game.

@JTB: Talk to me about Tery's slot.

@AA: New scumpicks and general musings now that you realize you overhighlighted my case. Is Seikend still scum?
 

th3kuzinator

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Ergh. I agree that AA's claim is most likely a town-tell, but to go from a lynch candidate to a town pick just from that seems extreme.

Likewise I would disagree that X1's claim of VT is scummy. VT is just the standard name for PR-less town that any player with experience here knows off the top of their head. If he didn't bother to check his PM correctly it's a very easy mistake to make, one that an actual VT could make.
@Tery: What vibe does this post give you?
 

Blacknight99923

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AA I need to see proof that both you , and seikend are protown. Seikend will be under my suspicions until he can prove himself clean.
 

X1-12

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I don't have time to play properly due to school work. I'd replace out now but that'd be a total ***** on whoever replaced in, and I can straggle through for the next few Days or so I'm pretty sure
 

th3kuzinator

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Vote: JTB

Will see how I feel after he gives us the content he promised.

I don't know how X1 replacing out will affect my thoughts on him. All I know is we have 4 days and I expect JTB to give us substantial ASAP.
 

JTB

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Alright, just woke up forreals.

Tery null for me, nothing stands out in his few posts since replacing in.

reading now
 

Seikend

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Vote: Seikend
I whanna see proof seikend is pro town
Seikend what are your thoughts of Kuz?
:/. Nah.

Read what I've done and judge for yourself. If you thought something was anti-town, then quote it and explain. I'm not going to go back and explain the pro-town intent behind every post.



Town read. The vast majority of his play has made sense to me.
 

Seikend

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Have him as null currently. Can't really form an opinion until he's caught up with what's happened so far toDay.
 

JTB

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Soren, I don't know what you expect to get from me before I finish doing a catchup post.
 

JTB

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Leave some questions for me then and I'll answer them.
 

Blacknight99923

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@ JTB

1. What are your thoughts about me Voting and then unvoting seikend

2. what are your thoughts about Kuz

3. Who are your lynch picks
 
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