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Newbie Mafia 12 FMP Fumoffu!: Game over!

ranmaru

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Why?

Also why does me being scum make Aussie scum?
 

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@Kuz, I'm just gonna keep him (Fynal) as what I said earlier.
 

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@Gova, thats fine. I pretty much agree.

@Ran, your namedrop. Only asked about your scum picks behind Fynal. Gave me three more (JTB, Soup, Gova) and then stuck in an Aussie null for no reason. Making connections where they don't need to be. Scumtell etc
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Ranmaru said:
Jtb, Soup. Soup for getting on a wagon without a reason, while saying he DID give a reason.

Gova null leaning scum. Ausie is null.
I DID HAVE A REASON.
FFS.

i called JTB out on it with questions and pressuring.
 

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I don't find a problem with that. I'm always fine with giving more than three.

@Soup: No you didn't.
 

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I asked you your scum tells, but you stuck in a null tell at then end for no reason. Also, you've yet to show me why you find Fynal scummy since I already explained to you that your current reasoning is all null.
 

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Yes, tell him hes wrong and then proceed to not tell him why he's wrong. Thats what ICs are for.

Why @ Seik? Clueless on what specifically that gave you that read?

Scum.

@Ran, scumpicks behind fynal.
lol, he's wrong but I like his thought process, that's what I'm complimenting.

Seik cause asian asked for thoughouts on him.

Oh true? Interesting. I know Ran has been anti-town but what has Ran done that seperates this from just the usual anti-town townie Ran?

@Ran: Yeah, sorry I didn't explain.

I'm paranoid about you cause you because you always have a tendacy to be anti-town without actually being scum. I'm worried that one of these days you ARE gonna be scum and we're going to just let you slip through the cracks because "it's how you always act."

I don't like how you seemingly bandwagon. I mean you have all this suspicion on JTB but then you jump on Fynal once some people unvote JTB. Seems disingenuous.
 

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Ran, yes i freaking did, it's in the pressuring part, go look, ffs.
 

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@Kuz:
You said scumpicks. I generally think of this as thoughts on alignment of most players. Not scum/town/null picks. No one says that.

@Swords:

Meaning bandwagon as in joining OTHERS on voting someone. I'm always fine with voting someone who doesn't have a vote at all. I have already explained that I thought his roleclaim excuse was BS. I'm you know, spreading pressure to everyone, not just JTB.
 

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I don't like how you seemingly bandwagon. I mean you have all this suspicion on JTB but then you jump on Fynal once some people unvote JTB. Seems disingenuous.
Sup, remember when Ran told everyone we shouldn't bandwagon?

:awesome:
 

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I said joining one without reason.
 

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@Swords

You missed the question about what you felt I was clueless about.

I'd like you to explain what you're referring to.
 

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@soup: could you give a one line summary or something of what you had thought of JTB? you keep saying "it" and "i did, go look" and such... and i couldn't find any when i made the same claim against you some number of pages back, and your response was also prettymuch the same.
 

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@Gova: No, no one else was on him for it. I stated my reason and then voted him.
 

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lol, he's wrong but I like his thought process, that's what I'm complimenting.

Seik cause asian asked for thoughouts on him.

Oh true? Interesting. I know Ran has been anti-town but what has Ran done that seperates this from just the usual anti-town townie Ran?

@Ran: Yeah, sorry I didn't explain.

I'm paranoid about you cause you because you always have a tendacy to be anti-town without actually being scum. I'm worried that one of these days you ARE gonna be scum and we're going to just let you slip through the cracks because "it's how you always act."

I don't like how you seemingly bandwagon. I mean you have all this suspicion on JTB but then you jump on Fynal once some people unvote JTB. Seems disingenuous.
How about Soup? Do you agree with Kuz's stance on Soup?

I don't see how I am anti-town. I always help town, and scumhunt. Can you explain how I am always anti-town?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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if this isn't the most bull**** excuse i've ever seen, i don't what is.

it doesn't matter the time-frame of the game, it matters what happens, to me, there has been plenty to go off of, you are just trying to avoid me.
another thing JTB, you have gatlin listed as town in your stances, but...your #317 kind of says otherwise.
definitely. unvote vote JTB
JTB, i don't like this stance post at all.



Alot of these 'stances' are just the first look on them, but nothing that really proves an alignment.

also, your town list is huge, why aren't you pursuing scum reads?

so, being a 'noob player', does that automatically clear him as town? i myself am not sure what you were trying to get at your #317.
@soup: could you give a one line summary or something of what you had thought of JTB? you keep saying "it" and "i did, go look" and such... and i couldn't find any when i made the same claim against you some number of pages back, and your response was also prettymuch the same.
i don't scumhunt at all do i
 

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So you didn't post that in chronological order? (The vote came first)
 

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Meaning bandwagon as in joining OTHERS on voting someone. I'm always fine with voting someone who doesn't have a vote at all. I have already explained that I thought his roleclaim excuse was BS. I'm you know, spreading pressure to everyone, not just JTB.
Sup, remember when Ran told everyone we shouldn't bandwagon?

:awesome:
Uh, perhaps I misworded. It's really more the fact that you just when from one person to another with a snap of the finger that bothers, because it makes the pressure that you were giving seem disingenuous.

@Swords

You missed the question about what you felt I was clueless about.

I'd like you to explain what you're referring to.
It's more of just a general thing that I noticed. Early on you were asking the ICs about what to do and what not, and for advice. You even openly admited that you have a hard time hunting at first. I know this is actually WIFOM but I simply don't feel noobscum would do this cause I believe noobscum would probably of been advised on things like this by now from their mates.

Seik how much experiance do you have?
 

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I felt there was enough people on JTB, Fynal was a special case and I jumped fast. Pressure > Looking town.
 

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soup, when i think of "scumhunting" i think of posts in which you sum up your suspicions against someone, then wait for and respond to their responses. could easily be me just not getting it again, but as i didn't see an initial sum of suspicions i didn't see the rest of your posts as scumhunt
 

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Fynal, what do you think of Soup?
 

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It's more of just a general thing that I noticed. Early on you were asking the ICs about what to do and what not, and for advice. You even openly admited that you have a hard time hunting at first. I know this is actually WIFOM but I simply don't feel noobscum would do this cause I believe noobscum would probably of been advised on things like this by now from their mates.

Seik how much experiance do you have?
My experience is a couple of games in AimMafia (one realistically, the other was auto-lylo that town lost in seconds), and I hydra'd with Kuz in Dissidia. I'm currently in this game and in another ongoing game.

As such, Kuz has pretty much been my mafia teacher.

I had some general questions I wanted to ask Kuz, but he is in both of my current games. I could ask them in a very general sense, but I was worried about revealing something about my alignments in either game we're both in. And so, he suggested that I asked the question here as it is a newbie game, and he specifically made sure he didn't answer. That's the reason for me posting it there.

Take my questions as a null please. I don't want them to influence the game, I'd rather I was judged on my play, not my questions for advice.
 

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i have a moderate suspicion, based on what i posted somewhere earlier. if you read my post at the end of p.31 it seems i might have badly misunderstood something again. live and learn i guess
 

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TINY GODS!
I thought it was a nice and slow game then I leave to write a paper and SHERBLAM at least 4 pages of intense back and forth.
To fynally repost a reply for Fynal,
@Fynal -> I do not see the need to defend my self, it was an honest mistake now that I know I would have laid down my vote, my question is why would you dissect a newbies post for such subtle mistakes when they are obviously not going to know the ins and outs of the game, such as not leaving a tab open when writing your english essay. That seems a little intense to me, then again I am a delicate Rhino just trying to live up to my role modle, Unicorn-ious.
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Vote: Ranmaru
 

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@Fynal:

Oh can you give the post number? I'm on 40post per page
 

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Not to be completely out of the blue Ran, but you seem to be very quick to point the finger of blame away from you often. You seem to want to do things to quickly. This maybe newbie of me but that is all.
 

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@ran #465

@TBS yea i just fell victim to noob mistake-age, possibly twice. and for that matter in this hectic stream of posting i totally forgot about you..lol

null read: TBS

vaguely scummy read: Ranmaru

is it just me or are you asking my opinion suddenly to divert attention from yourself?
 

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Alright, I'm back now

We doin' a Ran wagon?
 

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No. Fynal what you did garners attention. What did I do?
 

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You use the vaguely to leave your options open. This means you don't think I'm scummy, you are merely agreeing.

Why haven't you suspected me before TBS posted?
 
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