I'm going to go ahead and post this, even though you've left. I feel like having others see it will have some merit.
At the moment, Ran, I feel like your "scumhunting" is just you trying to pressure people who are on your case. Whether or not they have a valid point, you shove it aside and claim that they're scum. Why are you playing so defensively? Is there something you're trying to hide?
I really don't want to get into this argument again, but you bring it up endlessly. I suppose it's not clear, so I'll point it out right here: my vote on you was based on pressure and a gut feeling. I did not vote for you because you said you prefer active town. It made me suspicious, so I called you out on it and gave you my vote to get you going.
Your opinion of me has changed drastically through the course of the thread. You start out liking me and my push on you:
I liked his entrance and him questioning my statement. But I would like to see more content from him to see how he plays out. It's possible he could also be trying to put up a wall of fake scumhunting here too. I mean, he sort of ignored the RVS and straight started scumhunting. This seems like he was trying to take advantage of the early stage and get some town cred.
Yet you dance around Zen's question. You give no concrete answer and instead opt to not pass judgement. You say I could either be scum or town.
No, really?
Then this:
Ah ok, alright I like you. I thought you might have been sheeping opinion, good stuff. I also dislike Lemon because of him not really commenting on others until asked. He is also giving 'probaly' answers to some of his actions, which isn't very convincing.
This came from me answering your questions about Kary, someone you feel is scum. Your liking of me came entirely from the fact that it seemed like I agreed with you. I still do, yes. I believe Kary may be scum. However, your reasons for a scum read on him here are nonexistent. It seems like you're doing here what I said earlier, agreeing with other people to look nice and town-aligned.
Then when my opinions change and move towards you being scum, you fire back very quickly. I give you my reasoning behind a scum read on you, and you pull out this bull:
Eww. Why haven't you stated this before? You never stated this in your reasoning. You said that an Active town may have scum, and that I was scum for saying I liked active towns. Your push is very suspicious. You ask me your thoughts on your vote, I tell you, and you tell me that I misunderstood and you don't even explain it again until I ask you. Why did you wait until then to give this 'new' assessment?
If you'll remember, I never called you scum for liking active towns. I had only even called you scum once at that point, and my justification was not based on the statement you continuously try to pin it on. You're doing everything that you claim I'm doing. You're reaching to keep your scum read on me by misinterpreting my words.
In addition, your scum read on me consists of only a few nonsensical things:
- That my vote on you is based on my statement that an active player has as much possibility to be scum as town, and there's no reason to trust them more
- I didn't hand you all the information you wanted when
you didn't even ask for it yet
- I contradicted myself between posts. This is your only point on me that is passable as evidence, but you ignore the fact that I'm human, as much as you are. Humans make mistakes. I don't check every post I make to see if I'm typing something that conflicts with a previous viewpoint, because viewpoints change. If I'm contradicting myself, it's because I've changed how I'm looking at the given situation.
- You tell me that I'm trying to hold my scum read on you by making up new reasons to be voting for you. You have no reasoning as to why I'm doing this, so it's not even meaningful towards a scum read. I'm not trying to keep my read on you; you're making me keep reading you as scum with your posts. Change my mind if you don't like it. You've done nothing with this point except attack me for trying to read you. That doesn't seem like a very towny thing to do.
Again and again, you put down what other people say about you with large amounts of questions. It's a wonder you don't have everyone suspicious by now. You give no opportunities for people to read you. You might respond to questions, but you give no actual, useful answer. You dance around the question in an attempt to give as little information as possible.
Next, your read on me.
VitaminC - Scum.
He came in voting me because he felt that I was scum because I liked Active towns better than Lurker towns. He backpeddals later and says that that wasn't his reasoning, and that is a lie. It is this simple really. He only gives reasons afterwards like "Fluff" just to make me seem scummy. He never states why he thinks I'm fluffing, nor does he understand why Fluff would be scummy. He is just accusing me with buzz words and isn't really looking at my actions. I am sure Zen agrees. His push at first seemed proactive but later on he seems to be holding his scum read on me as much as he can.
First off, underlined, what the hell is this? You're attempting to strengthen your point on me by saying Zen would agree with you? Why do you need him to back you up? I don't want to know what you say he'll agree with. I want to know what he really thinks about your read on me.
@Zen: Respond to this please.
Moving on, you claim that I'm accusing you with buzz words? Please point out my offending lingo. You also say that I'm not looking at your actions. Your only actions in this game are posting and voting. I've already asked you about your voting. Your posts tell me that you seem to know I'm scum. You use phrases like, "See, this is why I think you are scum." (#117), implying that there's something I'm obviously doing that makes me scum. This is backwards, as you have given no concrete proof that the things I'm saying and doing are scummy. In all honesty, your attack on me seems like an OMGUS.
And then there's this post.
It's obvious you really didn't have a reason and that means your read on me was fake, and still is fake.
This is just bad. It's even kind of cruel. How can you possibly call my read fake when your read on me has relied entirely on points that I didn't even make?
Let me ask you something Ran. If my read on you is fake, why do you have four votes on you? Why are there four people who think you're scum right now? Obviously I saw something legitimate.
