Newbie 15 - Betty Crocker Mafia - Game Over!

[~ Gheb ~]

Serin, I like the way you're arguing against other people's points [concise and right to the point] but I feel like you're ready to take harder stances now. I'm particularly interested in whom you consider suspicious besides Ori and how you obtained these reads. Also a "plan B" idea for what we're going to do in case we lynch town toDay. Don't be afraid of speaking your mind even if it goes against the common opinion of people - if you keep on arguing logically and to the bone there's nothing you'd have to worry about.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Stu, the same goes to you too actually. While your job as IC is obviously to guide the newbie players some you shouldn't neglect the scumhunting part about this game, which I think you've been doing. I don't remember any distinctive stances from you and with deadline coming up you should have more to offer than to just wait for me to "chime in".

 

[John2k4]

You've got some good points there Gheb...

Since AA will put Ori right back at L-1, I shall Unvote. I don't want this day ending sooner than it should.

I want to do an in-depth analysis on AA's posts before I vote.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I refuse to do anything from my phone other than read what's been posted. I'll do a read-through of posts when I get home.

 

[Sokr]

What the hell am i doing? Sorry for derping guys. Will do some re reading and make a contribution to this game. Until then:

Unvote

 

[Ori_bro]

I'm so confused by these recent events


／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

 

[o-Serin-o]

AA, I'm curious. You're decision to vote Ori was based off of what? The case of mine, Gheb's read or off of your own reads?

And remember, if Ori flips town, look for an IC night-kill. Moreover, I'm expecting a Gheb nightkill or myself for a nightkill.

Sold hasn't really stood out and taken his case to any public attention, as far as I know. My read on him is the doctor (or the watcher, whichever).

If Gheb is nightkilled, look towards AA or Sokr.

If I'm nightkilled, look towards Marathonman.

If Ori flips scum, I don't know where we would go from there.

I'll elaborate when I get home. Elaborating without posts would be pretty pointless.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Without quotes*

 

[o-Serin-o]

If Ori flips scum, you can definitely expect a Gheb nightkill or me nightkill.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Stop speculating night kills.

 

[Ori_bro]

I'm really curious to why I literally went from L-1 to 1 vote(?) what caused this sudden change of heart? I would greatly appreciate some replies.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Fair enough.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Just out of curiosity, why is it bad to speculate night kills?

@any IC.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Because the scum doesn't even have to make a choice who to kill. That and when that person does die, you can't get any information out of it. You're just doing the scum a favor by saying stuff like that.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Ah, okay. Thanks.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Sold hasn't really stood out and taken his case to any public attention, as far as I know. My read on him is the doctor (or the watcher, whichever).

You shouldn't try to read people's roles. Again it's just a problem with giving scum easy night kills. If I didn't have you down as a town read, I'd be so mad and so voting right now.

too busy listening to supercell to care for anything korean

supercell is good stuff.

Stu, the same goes to you too actually. While your job as IC is obviously to guide the newbie players some you shouldn't neglect the scumhunting part about this game, which I think you've been doing. I don't remember any distinctive stances from you and with deadline coming up you should have more to offer than to just wait for me to "chime in".

Guilty as charged.

AA, S2, and Tery what do you think of everyone's claim against me? You guys were/are the most hesitant to place a vote on me, and I want to know what you think of the entire situation and who do you feel besides me is the next best choice for lynch.

Gheb's original push was obviously good and he started it all. I agree with you about how odd Sokr's stepping around voting you (while voting you three times) is, I can see that he was probably just trying to follow gheb there. John said something related to you being scum and if I remember he was pretty confident in his vote, so I think he's mostly fine there. Serin was hesitant to get on you but I've liked pretty much everything he's said against you since he's voted.

Sokr is a good choice. AA is a good choice.

AA over Ori is cool but I dislike the timeframe we're doing this in, Gheb.

 

[asianaussie]

AA, I'm curious. You're decision to vote Ori was based off of what? The case of mine, Gheb's read or off of your own reads?

Gheb's case. I haven't actually voted Ori yet.

unvote
vote: Ori

You just answered your own question - you make cases but conclude that they aren't worth pushing. Instead you add weak points to an already existing case for unclear reasons. Are we to assume that you're trying to achieve more than jjust to have an excuse as to why you joined the Ori wagon so conveniently? The ironic part about all this is that your points against Marathonman probably have enough merit to be worth going deeper into, which also would've gone along much better with what I've mentioned in my opening post: pursuing one's own ideas and not playing on somebody else's code. I maintain that you're doing the opposite of what you should be doing.

My case on Marathon was literally one paragraph preceding a vote on him, and can be just as easily attributed to inactivity + skimreading as it could to lurking. It was more a FoS thing than anything, I just dislike FoS's. Your case on Ori is more solid than mine on Marathon. Planning for the worst case scenario, a mislynch on Ori is far more beneficial than one on Marathon.

I'm addressing Marathonman a lot, but honestly, I can't go anywhere with a player who doesn't respond despite constant pressure and me bumping questions specifically directed at him. Until he responds (and I don't see that happening for a couple days), I'm sitting pretty here.

the most beneficial solution for town toDay [which, after all I read, should be lynching Marathonman to him].

@Ori: im fairly sure you've got the most connections, so to speak, and i feel your lynch is the most beneficial to town regardless of your alignment

Almost verbatim. Almost.

inb4 john comes back with a token ISO and a vote on me

gheb has far more influence than anyone else just by the tone of his posts, since he plays as if he's caught scum already.

 

[John2k4]

"token ISO"...that's one I haven't heard before...


I'll chew you out in a bit once I can sit down and go through everything.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Hell week returns. I'll take a look at what's happened soon.

 

[Sokr]

Nah it's not noteworthy. Scum is either already Betty Crocker products that seem town, or they have confirmed Betty Crocker products not in the game already for them to safely claim.QUOTE]

Ya, it was a stupid post.

 

[Sokr]

Has anyone actually voted for any of the IC's yet?

 

[John2k4]

Honestly, I'm not too concerned about them D1.
Though personally I will be keeping an eye on Gheb, since he's been coming out with some in-depth reads on people.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Has anyone actually voted for any of the IC's yet?

Is the existence or lack of one actually important in this situation? I don't understand the logic of asking this question.

 

[Gova]

1. Terywj (1) MM
2. Sokr (1) Ori
3. Serin ()
4. John2k4 ()
5. asianaussie (2) S2, Gheb
6. Ori_Bro (3) John, Serin, AA
7. MARaTHonmann ()
8. Gheb ()
9. Sold2 ()

Not voting - Tery, Sokr

With 9 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is November 17th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!

 

[asianaussie]

It shows people are a bit apprehensive of them. Basically means people are more likely to listen to them and be less willing to upset them.

 

[John2k4]

It shows people are a bit apprehensive of them. Basically means people are more likely to listen to them and be less willing to upset them.

I put myself in the mindset of: They (IC's) are just players, like everyone here. They offer advice, but other than that, are just players. They aren't superpowers, and their words hold equal weight to me as those from anyone.

 

[Sokr]

Is the existence or lack of one actually important in this situation? I don't understand the logic of asking this question.

I was just wondering if anyone's actually considering them enough to place a vote on them.

Also, has anyone else noticed that they're both voting for AA? Is a scum pairing of the IC's unlikely? Is one bandwagoning off the other in order to avoid suspicion? Or are they both onto something that the rest of us aren't? (These are all rhetorical questions intended to put my thoughts onto the page).

@Sold when did you vote for AA? I can't find the post.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

It shows people are a bit apprehensive of them. Basically means people are more likely to listen to them and be less willing to upset them.

I asked Sokr, not you.

Reading through Sokr.

 

[asianaussie]

sold voted for me an eon ago

sorry aizen

i would hope gova didn't pair the ICs together as scum

 

[DtJ S2n]

I voted for AA here in 171.

 

[Sokr]

sold voted for me an eon ago

sorry aizen

i would hope gova didn't pair the ICs together as scum

It would certainly make it easier for them to teach us as they would know what alignment we were playing. I don't suppose there's any chance of this game having a cop?

 

[Sokr]

I voted for AA here in 171.

So did you get your result for the vote? Why is your vote still on him?

 

[John2k4]

I don't suppose there's any chance of this game having a cop?

It's an open setup, which means the info is in the OP...

1 Track-Immune Mafia Goon
1 Watch-Immune Mafia Goon
1 Watcher
1 Tracker
5 Vanilla Townies

No cop.

 

[Sokr]

Oh! Where'd you find that?

 

[John2k4]

In the first post, under the first collapse-box titled "Set Up".
AA sorry it's taking me a while, I replaced into BH and need to do a Tetris match.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Oh! Where'd you find that?

I want to punch you.

 

[Sokr]

I want to punch you.

That's ok. This is just reinforcing your theory that I'm some veteran player who's overplaying being the newb, isn't it? So tery, your role in this game more exciting than the one you just dropped?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

You're now bringing up irrelevant posts--especially that regarding another active game. I don't know what's up with you, but I don't like it.

 

[asianaussie]

im confused now

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Sokr is trying to attack me using points from a different active game--Britches and Hoes, where I questioned his lack of experience in playing the game, and also one I had to replace out of because I became unprecedentedly busy and so could not handle two games at the same time.