@Seikend: In your
789 you say that you you found the wagon on you to be gross (which I agree it was) and that you'd be examining the people who switched to your wagon for dumb reasoning. You make it pretty clear that you disapprove of what Werekill did, but then say you like BPC's play on the matter.
Side Note: What's your current read on Werekill?
Back on track, BPC's reasoning was much much worse than Werekill's was. His
514 and
530 clearly show that he does not support the Phoenix wagon nor does he understand the reasoning/things that could be gained from doing so. Yet his very next post, 50 posts later, is
this in which he flip flops completely. This is probably the most glaring inconsistency that I've seen all game, considering that he had Werekill as scum a few posts ago and said he was adverse to the Phoenix lynch. He uses the deadline as an excuse to justify the lynch he just previously said gave him nothing to work with. I wasn't very focused on the thread at that point in the game due to parties and such, but if I had been in the right state of mind when this first went down I would have seen it noticed it straight away.
Acrostic does two posts later. I'm curious as to how you could have maintained your town read on him after that incident yet your read on Werekill flip-flopped. What is your current read on BPC?
@Acrostic: Say Seikend wasn't the lynch. Who would be your second pick and why?
Still think Sang is town despite the lie. Every post just feels like a smack in the face with a townie fish or something and I can't ignore those gut reads. Plus her thought process makes sense to me and doesn't look like something that was doctored.
Same thing with Acrostic. His posts look like genuine attempt to scumhunt instead of cheap imitations that I would expect from a scum player. Acrostic is a smart player so this isn't really enough to sell me, it's just that I like what he's doing. Particularly wrt the last minute wagon decision yesterDay. Lots of smart questions and it does seem like he's genuinely looking for scum with his vote movement. I Like 586/587 and 719.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13074129&postcount=720
This above post interests me quite a bit. Both Acrostic and Zen ask BPC why he switches wagons yet BPC ignores Acrostic's question and answers Zen's. With the time interval between his switch and Acrostic's followup + scumBPC would not ignore a question that his scummate targeted at him due to try to force a connection, BPC and Acrostic aren't on the same scumteam.
I'll quote the part of the post that really made an impression on me, though.
Side note: Zen seems to be getting kinda buddy-buddy with a few players and flip-flopping. I'll reread that again.
This is pretty much textbook scum distancing if I've ever seen it. BPC has
not mentioned any discontent with Zen in the past yet throws out an offhand comment in the middle of his post. He does not follow up on this side note nor does he push Zen at all after this. People can say whatever they want about who they think is scum, but its who they actually push that matters.
I would look at Zen if BPC flips scum.
BPC said:
At this point, we need to choose a wagon and stick with it, no matter what wagon. I'm not going to play cute here; a D1 lynch is ****ing essential. It gives us a good idea of who's who, and ensures that the scum doesn't have complete control over the information... Let's say we lynch player X, and he flips town. This may incriminate or help several people. At the same time, said player X could just as easily flip scum. However, the mafia doesn't have such randomness; they know who to target and kill: whoever will help their cause the most. Without a day one lynch, we're flying blind.
Information instead of analysis. Just telling us the basics of mafia theory.
BPC said:
I'd appreciate a claim from SW and Phoenix. My vote stays on Phoenix because, again, he's useless. I advise the rest of you to choose a candidate and stick with them. We need a lynch of someone who is at least somewhat suspicious/connected, unless they're PR'd.
@Bolded: Says he think Sang's slip is just a newbie mistake earlier in the post and then wants her to claim while she's at like L-3. Rolefishing.
Rest of the quote is, again, information instead of analysis.
Basically just gross stuff all around.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13076284&postcount=760
If you ask me this looks completely like faked ignorance. More IIoA. The guy hasn't said anything of value in like 10 posts and even before that I already discussed the grody wagon switch from Werekill to Phoenix.
Still reading some stuff.
