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Dthrow to Uair will get you far, my friend. If they catch on and air dodge, just nail them with a Vanish. Those two are probably my most successful.
So is Vanish one of Sheik's best killing options? I was watching Mr. R and he used grounded vanish pretty often.
Dthrow to Uair will get you far, my friend. If they catch on and air dodge, just nail them with a Vanish. Those two are probably my most successful.
Vanish is like Usmash, in that it hits hard but is tough to land well. If you can hit them with a Vanish - especially in the air - then yes, it's a good option.
Keep practicing and with enough patience you will get it down, and no. It does not matter that you have a 3DS the mechanics are the same on both versions.
Went to a tournament 2day, and finally figured out the fthro>bf! I also watched some mr. r sheik play. Been practicing and my fair strings and they are much better now. Almost beat a rly good player at a tournament as well, things are going great!
When doing Fthrow > Bf you gotta buffer bf as you're doing fthrow (keep doing the inputs for it before the animation ends) so you do it as soon as they're knocked back; you'll often have to react to their DI also. Sometimes you gotta jump a bit then do it if they DI up and towards you at percents above 0. This is easy to do, don't worry.
Thank you. I found with the bouncing fish that u need to activate the first kick earlier by pressing b soon after u initially use bouncing fish. The kick happens higher this way and has worked perfectly for me so far. Also, with certain characters that get out of strings with quick moves, this combo is helpful since bf does a good amount of damage with only one hit. Idk this seems to make sense I might be wrong lol
You're right. For example against Yoshi I'd go for fthrow bf rather than fthrow to fair strings just for quick damage and because his nair is ridiculous. Most other characters I'd try to maximize the gain though and try to get a fair string going; worst case scenario is I'll get one fair off and still have them in a bad position.
True, it does give up some positioning, however, to avoid this (to a certain extent), u can shorten the second flip. Mr. R does this a lot.
Both throws are awesome but in different ways. As a general rule (very general), Fthrow tends to work better at lower percents, while Dthrow works better at higher. Look around at some different threads on the Boards for percents and follow-ups.
Good luck trying to find good Sheiks on the 3DS. It was an absolutely painful experience maining her on the 3DS and it still is :/
I remember being able to use needles > bf just fine in the 3ds
B-reversing is the most important tech for Sheik tbh. another basic/important one is RAR.
and does well against you guys, I think I can kinda understand Pika but I honestly completely fail to see how Kirby is a threat, seeing as how mediore of a character he is in general. I ask this because I mostly play these 4: , all 4 of whom don't particularly do well against you and if I keep this team I'll likely have a lot of trouble should I ever come across a good sheik in bracket (right now, my region doesn't have that many Sheiks though, we don't even have one on our PR). I don't wanna replace any of these guys but to stand a chance against your character I might have to, and playin anymore characters is probably gonna be severely detrimental to me and would overstep my bounds. Of anyone else I enjoy playing, I think my two best options are & , I don't find them quite as fun as the original 4 (still fun in general though), but if I don't use them I'll likely have my whole team invalidated by this one character, and I think playing these two as well would spread me too thin. As much as I'd love to do this, playing multiple characters hurts you in the long run, and I think playing a total of 6 characters is gonna let everyone in my region pass me by and slow down my progress.
Pikachu, Kirby, Meta Knight, and Lucario can all have advantageous MUs against Sheik.Do you think Sheik go even with or lose to anybody? I hear from people (even ZeRo) that
55:4550:5055:45 (no customs), 50:50 (customs)52:4845:5550:5055:4555:4560:4065:35 (at best for Wario)55:45Is the peach MU in sheik's favor or peach's? Also, can you explain that MU if you dont mind. (Might be the wrong forum to do that lol!)I feel like you're exaggerating Arikado. My opinions/impressions of those matchups are more like this. Will explain any that you ask about, but I think this is a more accurate depiction of those matchups.
Based on my exp and what I looked up on the Sheik boards. Basically Peach has a lot of trouble in general against Sheik. She can't really float safely, needles are a big pain, she has trouble landing, and she doesn't have the frame data to keep up. Also Sheik can gimp her.
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, Shiek actually has an advantage on Luigi due to the fact thatEasily Shiek. Just the fact that Peach is forced to approach because of needles, and can't really do so because she is sluggish plus floating typically (from my MU experience which isn't super intensive) puts her at perfect BF position. IMO, it's at the very least 60:40 (no customs). Idk if customs would change this, but I'd be doubtful.
Control stick + A for aerial strings, c stick for when I'm spacing Fair on shield.
I almost exclusively use the C-stick for aerials. It allows easier retreating Fairs or advancing Bairs, and I just find it easier to have a set way of doing things. Rather than sometimes C-sticking in the air or sometimes not, it's probably best to stick with one or the other.
How do you do buffered aerials? Are you one of those guys who can move their thumb from X to the c stick at light speed?
I believe you have to do an input within 7 frames or 4 frames to buffer something. You can find more information at http://smashboards.com/threads/new-sheik-tech-instant-needle-cancels.402777/ , the thread briefly talks about buffering an attack from needles to an attack. Buffering is avaliable to all characters the "can". I hope that made sense
You don't buffer aerials with C stick. Like I said I use it purely for spacing Fair on shields (or sometimes retreating fairs; but for the same purpose, to space it on shield) and that doesn't really require buffering as far as I'm concerned.
