New tier list-Fox placing.

[Conviction]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc
SS Tier
Meta Knight 15.00

S Tier
Snake 13.91

A Tier
Falco 13.03
King Dedede 12.94
Mr. Game & Watch 12.50
Marth 12.09
Diddy Kong 11.94

B Tier
Wario 11.47
R.O.B. 11.38
Lucario 10.94
Olimar 10.94

C Tier
Pikachu 10.34
Kirby 10.16
Donkey Kong 10.06
Ice Climbers 9.59

D Tier
Zero Suit Samus 8.88
Toon Link 8.47
Pit 8.44
Peach 8.16
Wolf 7.91

E Tier
Luigi 7.41
Zelda 7.03
Bowser 6.91
Fox 6.66
Sheik 6.44
Ike 5.91

F Tier
Mario 4.56
Lucas 4.50
Ness 4.50
Samus 4.41
Sonic 4.16
Pokémon Trainer 3.94
Yoshi 3.66

G Tier
Link 2.28
Jigglypuff 2.03
Ganondorf 1.88
Captain Falcon 1.63


What do you think does it fit him. Should we have moved up, down, or kept same spot as last tier's list.

P.S. We're under Bower? 0.o

 

[Xiivi]

Fun fact: Fox had the biggest drop in ranking out of the entire cast.
More fun facts: Fox is the devil. rofl

 

[Conviction]

Fun fact: Fox had the biggest drop in ranking out of the entire cast.
More fun facts: Fox is the devil. rofl

XD when I saw your name on my thread I thought it became closed.

 

[Xiivi]

XD when I saw your name on my thread I thought it became closed.

I could interpret this as you requesting it to be locked and do so.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6281052&postcount=118

Key : Name - (Placement Change ----- previous placement > current placement.)

SS Tier
Meta Knight -------- ( No change ----- 1 > 1)

S Tier
Snake --------------- ( No change ----- 2 > 2)

A Tier
Falco ---------------- ( +2 ----- 5 > 3)
King Dedede -------- ( -1 ----- 3 > 4)
Mr. Game & Watch - ( -1 ----- 4 > 5)
Marth --------------- ( +1 ----- 7 > 6)
Diddy Kong --------- ( +4 ----- 11 > 7)

B Tier
Wario --------------- ( No change ----- 8 > 8)
R.O.B. --------------- ( -3 ----- 6 > 9)
Lucario ------------- ( -1 ----- 9 > 10)
Olimar -------------- ( +7 -----18 > 11)

C Tier
Pikachu ------------ (No change ----- 12 > 12)
Kirby --------------- ( +1 ----- 14 > 13)
Donkey Kong ------ ( -4 ----- 10 > 14)
Ice Climbers ------- ( -2 ----- 13 > 15)

D Tier
Zero Suit Samus -- ( +5 -----21 > 16)
Toon Link --------- ( No change ----- 17 > 17)
Pit ----------------- ( -3 ----- 15 > 18)
Peach ------------- ( +5 ----- 24 > 19)
Wolf --------------- ( -4 ----- 16 > 20)

E Tier
Luigi -------------- ( +2 ----- 23 > 21)
Zelda -------------- ( -2 ----- 20 > 22)
Bowser ------------ ( -1 ----- 22 > 23)
Fox ---------------- ( -5 ----- 19 > 24)
Sheik -------------- ( +1 -----26 > 25)
Ike ---------------- ( -1 ------25 > 26)

F Tier
Mario -------------- ( +2 ----- 29 > 27)
Lucas -------------- ( Ness and Lucas have equal points, -1 / -2 ----- 28 / 29)
Ness --------------- ( Ness and Lucas have equal points, -1 / -2----- 28 / 29)
Samus ------------- ( +1 ----- 31 > 30)
Sonic -------------- ( +2 ----- 33 > 31)
Pokémon Trainer - ( -2 ----- 30 > 32)
Yoshi --------------- ( -1 ----- 32 > 33)

G Tier
Link ---------------- ( +2 ----- 36 > 34)
Jigglypuff --------- ( -1 ----- 34 > 35)
Ganondorf -------- ( -1 ----- 35 > 36)
Captain Falcon --- ( No change ----- 36 > 36)

Fox was massacred by the new list.

 

[Uzima (Uzi)]

(back on topic )

this tier list is bugging me WE SHOULD have moved up, BUT we haven't exactly been making substantial progress either.

 

[Zhamy]

Let's face it - Fox's metagame hasn't exactly been booming this past while, and his tournament placings have been nothing to write home about. Should he have been dropped that low? I don't think so. I do think he's solidly mid tier material, but what's done is done. Just kick *** until the next one comes along.

(Also, LOL @ Sonic mains thinking he was going to move up)

 

[A6M Zero]

m-m-mmust...b-b-b-b-bbreaaathe.......

It's all Scotu's fault.

 

[HeroMystic]

Goodness. Fox and Wolf got *****.

 

[monkeyx4]

Dang we got *****

 

[Conviction]

I can't believe we are under BOWSER. I mean its BOWSER! XD I'm going to do some serious training, and enter some tournies. Monkey if we can find a GA doubles tourney you wanna Fox team?

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Wait, when was the new one made?

 

[Conviction]

It was made today.

 

[M@v]

LOL at fox's number 6.66


Seriously though WTF? Below bowser? This is freaking ********. And my other issue is Diddy in top tier? So all of a sudden he is as good as Marth, DDD, Falco, G&W right? Oh wait, he has the best MK matchup, I guess this list is "MK is god, the rest of the list goes in order of how good everyone does vs him."

on a good note though Falco 3rd, good stuff

And peach moved up big too =P

 

[Conviction]

I think this tier list was based off favoritism.

 

[M@v]

You know why Fox is so low? Because I had the best placing with fox in the whole nation in December....with 2nd place.


Case and point: We need mor people playing fox and placing. its that simple.

 

[Zhamy]

Seriously though WTF? Below bowser?

Bowser has nearly all disadvantageous matchups, but not by much. It's either "matchups where Bowser is at a disadvantage but can hold his own" or "Bowser v. DDD." He actually doesn't do too badly against most of the top tier, and he doesn't get ***** like Fox does in specific matchups, excepting DDD.

Playing Bowser against DDD is screaming "**** me." (One matchup.)
Playing Fox against Sheik, ZSS, Pikachu, and ICs is screaming **** me. (At least 4 matchups, not to mention the other hard counters.)

 

[Chileno4Live]

Wow Fox is pretty low >_< I should play alot more with him online with people from Europe, and hopefully i'll have enough money to buy a dazzle recorder so i can improve myself with you guys's help. To bad there aren't any Tourneys in the Netherlands

 

[§witch]

I think this tier list was based off favoritism.

Just because fox dropped? Come on now lol, you know that can't be true.

 

[M@v]

m-m-mmust...b-b-b-b-bbreaaathe.......

It's all Scotu's fault.

Even though Scotu doesnt use fox in tourney rhes responisible right? Heres an idea, if your so ****ing good like you say you are, and that your magically the best fox on the boards, even though ive seen NO rankings from you, how about you win some tourneys for Fox? That shouldnt be too hard for a person of your supposed skill level am I right?


By the way, gamestop tourneys dont count.

 

[Conviction]

Lol I was just kidding.

EDIT: Lol calling it like it is Mav.

 

[Zhamy]

It's all Scotu's fault.

No, seriously, guys, it's scotu's fault. I mean, he's obviously the one pulling the strings behind the SBR. Manipulating the scenes, slowly brainwashing Overswarm and Panda into thinking that Fox is trash.

He makes things with subliminal messages. You know all those videos of him? Every 47 seconds, for 1/120th of a second, there flashes a sign that says "FOX SUCKS, HE IS THE DEVIL." That's right, scotu hates Fox so much that he broke the mechanics of Brawl's frames in order to convince the SBR that Fox sucks. Why else do you think he has the number 6.66?

Scotu, your reign of terror will fall one day. I am sure of it.

 

[-Aka-]

I'll be entering tournaments soon since I've been talking with some organizers about them. Hopefully the rankings will go up, and him dropping is just more reason for us to keep getting better, right?

 

[Conviction]

Lol A6M you need to chill.

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

XD when I saw your name on my thread I thought it became closed.

ROFL! I thought so too!

Back to topic:

O well, I guess this just gives up more of a goal to get better and show what Fox can do at tourneys. I will try to do better at the next few tourneys I attend. Remember what Peppy always said, "Never give up....Trust your instincts." More emphasie on the never giving up part =D

 

[Flayl]

Why you guys hating on Bowser? o.0

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

Because he is poop =D

Just kidding. Personally I don't take the tier list seriously. We know the capability of our character. I guess we are just shocked because we at least have some good match-ups where the majority of Bowser's match-ups are disadvantages. How are you guys placing?

Bowser is a cool character =D

 

[SnowballBob33]

why do yall care how low fox is. honestly i couldnt give a ****. as long as u go to ur tournament and win, isnt that all that matters. if some1 says "ooh fox sucks", u play them and beat them and tell em stfu.

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

why do yall care how low fox is. honestly i couldnt give a ****. as long as u go to ur tournament and win, isnt that all that matters. if some1 says "ooh fox sucks", u play them and beat them and tell em stfu.

Basically. For the most part that is my mindset. Just play the character you like and shock the world =O!!!!!! < I feel corny for saying that.

SnowballBob if I was a mod I'd ban you for your grammar =D! Just Kidding!...kinda lol!

 

[$haDy]

why do yall care how low fox is. honestly i couldnt give a ****. as long as u go to ur tournament and win, isnt that all that matters. if some1 says "ooh fox sucks", u play them and beat them and tell em stfu.

Problem is none of ye win pretty much

 

[SnowballBob33]

na, i agree, just play who u like and win. can u really get banned 4 bad grammar?

 

[SnowballBob33]

Problem is none of ye win pretty much

PRIME EXAMPLE.
play me so i can punish you. do u live east coast?

 

[Chileno4Live]

Fox isn't that bad and Bowser is pretty good i think. I saw some matches and he has some uses. I like his flamebreathe move, racks up lotsa damage. And he kills very good aswell. Though, Fox is LOTSA faster and his Usmash kills even better. Bowser is also a big target to hit not to mention his endinglag on his moves are so freakin annoying >_< Is there maybe someone from Europe who wants to match VS me? I kinda wanna show my moves/skills to the people here. Like i said, i'll get my dazzle recorder soon, and then i'll be recognized as AWESOME Just joking lol

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

na, i agree, just play who u like and win. can u really get banned 4 bad grammar?

Lol not to my knowledge =D I was just poking fun of your lack of capitalization and abbreviations.

 

[Shintarru]

You serious?!?!?! well some people did move up which is good but fox moving down? I thought he would be moving up.Oh well looks like I gotta win 1st place in this tourney im going to in 19 days.

 

[SnowballBob33]

whew, i wuz get'n scared 4 a minute. lol

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

You serious?!?!?! well some people did move up which is good but fox moving down? I thought he would be moving up.Oh well looks like I gotta win 1st place in this tourney im going to in 19 days.

Lol good ****. Make sure to post your results in the FOX TOURNAMENT RESULTS THREAD!

^Plug much?

 

[Xiivi]

m-m-mmust...b-b-b-b-bbreaaathe.......

It's all Scotu's fault.

(4:31:55 PM) Colin: the best reactions are on the fox board
(4:32:08 PM) Colin: where they're talking about scotu might have influenced his SBR tier placement
(4:32:14 PM) Colin: even though it was actually you

I don't know what Colin could be talking about. *whistle* Nope, couldn't be the AIM convos I had with SBR people about Fox or anything. Not at all. *hides*

But yeah, tournament results are really...lacking...when it comes to Fox. Stop wasting time with Wifi wars against DK and Ganon and go win something. :/

 

[$haDy]

PRIME EXAMPLE.
play me so i can punish you. do u live east coast?

What does beating somebody on wifi prove about fox being good, go win a proper tournament(idiot).

ps I don't live on the east coast

 

[Conviction]

What does beating somebody on wifi prove about fox being good, go win a proper tournament(idiot).

ps I don't live on the east coast

Actually I think Snowball has placed well in his tournies. Go check the Tournament thread here.

P.S. I didn't make this thread for trolls like you so GTFO.

 

[Zorai]

I'm glad to see people like Diddy, Luigi, and Olimar move up (since they're so underused); but it angers me completely that characters that were excpected to move up based on the high potential (such as Donkey Kong and Fox)were actually taken down.

I'm supposing that tourneys are the cause?