New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Chris the Ripper]

@Chris the Ripper: What Nintendo characters do you want in Smash? Explain each and every one of your choices.

To be honest guy,any character is alright with me. Even Mega-man,because each new character and even the updated ones always bring something new to the fray.

 

[Conviction]

@Chris the Ripper: What Nintendo characters do you want in Smash? Explain each and every one of your choices.

Please noooooooooooooo.....

if its dragon ball were talking about then

is all

The image is not showing up, so I don't get it yo LOL

Nevermind, I see it now. LOL

No, maybe he's Persian, Brazillian? I know Navajo! Get real kid, with a name like his, he's nothing but.

And that he pulled out that will smith pic, Classic

Tbh I'm talking to this Brazilian girl. They are mad beautiful yo, also Will Smith da bess.

LET'S NOT GET OFF TOPIC THOUGH. More about P. Mario, I might make a pseudo-moveset when I feel like it LOL. That Victini moveset I read made my eyes bleed dog.

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Buuuuuuut....I would like to see (here it comes)...

 

[OmegaXXII]

I've never considered it before, but I think it would be pretty awesome if P.Mario had a Geno costume, and vise versa

Hmm... That wouldn't be a bad idea, but Geno isn't from Paper Mario, he's from SM:RPG, better idea if you said Mr.L could be his alternate.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Geno!!!!!!!!

 

[Oasis_S]

I would like if when Paper Mario crouched... He folded up... Then to crawl would be to roll himself into a CYLINDER and roll around like that. Maybe he could trip people like that.

I think everyone agrees he must glide as a paper airplane??

 

[Conviction]

Please don't feed the trolls.

@Chris the Ripper: quit spamming our thread boi!!

I died laughing because you told him not to do something then turned around and did it yourself LOL, don't worry though, he's my son now. I'll make sure by the time SSB4 comes out, he will be able to hold conversation without mentally hurting some one.

SSBFan, how do you feel about all this? I know Victni is sort of your bag

SSBF is highly intelligent, he's one of the people I can stand to read when they post. I just hope he doesn't like that moveset. I'll repost my complaints with it when if he likes it though.

Buuuuuuut....I would like to see (here it comes)...

HUSH CHILD!

 

[Chris the Ripper]

I think everyone agrees that the villian without name(i 4got) from TYD should come if paper mario comes.And that P.Mario should use that cool hammer as a fsmash.OOOHH!He can be like Mr.Game and Watch!

 

[Conviction]

P Mario's Smashes can easily be based on his Hammer. He's....I really can't make a solid statement actually right now. I'll either pop in the game or look it up really quick when I feel like making a moveset or a moveset argument.

The idea is for characters to not be a clone as much as possible....so no, he can't be like GnW. Sorry.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

But....Mr.Game and Watch goes "Beep Beep" and I srsly wana hear Kirby say "GET OVER HERE"

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[Conviction]

Aight this is the perfect example. That type of post you made is what makes people not like you homie. When you do it a lot, it comes across as trolling. If we were chatting, it would be fine, but not seriously trying to make something of a discussion then it looks even worse on your part.

Heads up.

 

[refugee]

P Mario's Smashes can easily be based on his Hammer. He's....I really can't make a solid statement actually right now. I'll either pop in the game or look it up really quick when I feel like making a moveset or a moveset argument.

The idea is for characters to not be a clone as much as possible....so no, he can't be like GnW. Sorry.

I'm actually starting to accept Paper Mario as an acceptable candidate for SSB4 now.

However, being a clone of GnW? That would be stupid.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I would like if when Paper Mario crouched... He folded up... Then to crawl would be to roll himself into a CYLINDER and roll around like that. Maybe he could trip people like that.

I think everyone agrees he must glide as a paper airplane??

Yes, that could work as his B ^ special I'll go ahead and cook up a detailed moveset.

 

[Deleted member]

SSBFan, how do you feel about all this? I know Victni is sort of your bag.

Gotta say, I really did like that move set. It clearly show case Victini's potential as a very unique Pokemon (You don't frequently see a Fire/Psychic Pokemon in the wild, especially not a Legendary one) and further increase my reason to support Victini. Two things I would do to improve the move set is to make it less powerful and for only one Final Smash (Four is kind of not needed).

 

[refugee]

Aight this is the perfect example. That type of post you made is what makes people not like you homie. When you do it a lot, it comes across as trolling. If we were chatting, it would be fine, but not seriously trying to make something of a discussion then it looks even worse on your part.

Heads up.

This guy speaks the truth. Listen to him.

 

[TBone06]

2+ points for double posting

I'm very curious to see if they incorporate the partner system in the next major installment. I hope the concept isn't completely dead by now...since, I've got to say, the pixel thing was a bit weak.

I think they will. Looking at the trailer it looks more like the first two. I'm sure they'll do something with that. Plus it looks like Mario has a partner in some of the screen shots

 

[reserk]

gotta have paper mario! if not, then put geno.

also, paper mario does deserve to glide, yes!

 

[Conviction]

I'm actually starting to accept Paper Mario as an acceptable candidate for SSB4 now.

However, being a clone of GnW? That would be stupid.

Word.

Yes, that could work as his B ^ special I'll go ahead and cook up a detailed moveset.

Damn, you beat me to it dog.

Gotta say, I really did like that move set. It clearly show case Victini's potential as a very unique Pokemon (You don't frequently see a Fire/Psychic Pokemon in the wild, especially not a Legendary one) and further increase my reason to support Victini. Two things I would do to improve the move set is to make it less powerful and for only one Final Smash (Four is kind of not needed).

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- I want to repost what I said because it felt like a school essay :-/

Well anyways, his post exactly reflects my likes and dislikes in a summary type post.

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[refugee]

Sounds similar to: THIS IS MY SON, WHOM I LOVE, LISTEN TO HIM!

O_o

What are you talking about? I've been posting here for weeks now. You can ask anyone here and I've never shown preference to the user I quoted. Also, can you even prove we're related?

EDIT: He wasn't talking to you, he was talking to Chris.

 

[TBone06]

gotta have paper mario! if not, then put geno.

also, paper mario does deserve to glide, yes!

You know I loved the Paper Mario series, but I've never really supported him for Smash. But he looks like a good choice. I'd still prefer Geno personally. Also that'd be amazing if he could glide like Metaknight and them. That could be part of his up B

 

[Chidosengan]

Seems that the boards are kinda wild today. I have no idea what's going on.

 

[Deleted member]

Seems that the boards are kinda wild today. I have no idea what's going on.

Chris the Ripper being an idiot, discussion regarding balance, and lots of activity nowadays. Also, we got off-topic a bit and talked about Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 characters.

Let's just say that I like very fast pace activity like this.

 

[OmegaXXII]

First off, I think A attacks (smash attacks) would be somewhat similar to Mario but not by much... anyway here's what I think.

B: Hammer Throw
Throws a hammer forward. The hammer is thrown a little slower than Wolf's blaster and doesn't go quite as far, but does more damage.

>B: Fire Drive
A short-range attack. Paper Mario pulls out a flaming hammer and swings it in front of him. Charge by holding B.

^B: Paper Airplane
Turns into a paper airplane and flies upward. Similar to Meta Knight's ^B.
Alternate ^B: Tornado Jump
Three small tornadoes form around Paper Mario, allowing him to jump very high. Length of jump is similar to Mr. Game & Watch's ^B.

vB: Repel Cape
Paper Mario covers himself with a red cape, making him dodgy. Any attack received within a short period of time will be countered with a quick punch. Similar to Lucario's vB.
Alternate vB: Spike Shield
Paper Mario spins around, creating a blue shield of spikes around him that lasts about 1/2 second. Paper Mario is invulnerable during this time. Timing has to be just right, but does about 10% damage and some good knockback.

Final Smash: Showstopper
Mario stands in a defensive position as large stars come in from the background. These stars are larger, about 3 times faster, and do more damage than Andross' plates. There aren't as many, though. Once a star passes through an area, the area becomes a blind spot for about 7 seconds after the Final Smash has ended (nothing can be seen there; just black).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_An_p7DO8 (starts at 0:27)

ALTERNATE COSTUMES:
Red: Normal
Green: Wears L Emblem (Paper Luigi)
Blue: Paper Jumpman (blue shirt, red overalls)
Other 1: Wears W Emblem (Paper Wario)
Other 2: Wears L Emblem and W Emblem (Paper Waluigi)
Other 3: Paper Fire Mario (white shirt, red overalls)

TAUNTS:
Taunt 1: Paper Mario looks at the screen, gives a thumbs up, and then adjusts his hat.
Taunt 2: Paper Mario spins around and wags his finger toward the screen.
Taunt 3: Paper Mario jumps back a little while waving his arms in the air, looking surprised and startled.

He would somewhat inherit the Game and Watch feel but not by much.

 

[Conviction]

LOL what? In the past me and refug, have been in huge disagreements.

I try my best to not be wrong but part of my lifestyle goes by, I believe that everything that you do bad comes back to you. So everything that I do that’s bad, I’m going to suffer from it. But in my mind, I believe what I’m doing is right. So I feel like I’m going to heaven.

Chido, I'm sorry I'm causing such a disturbance but I felt that I needed to speak up. I might go back to lurking tomorrow

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

Sakurai revealed character ideas.......

 

[Gallowglass]

Paper Mario is Mario from another game. They play off the paper effects which can give him a different moveset but he plays differently in many games (e.g. Sunshine). Sure he would look differently and you can make a new character out of it but the thing is it's still the same Mario. It's not Mario from an alternate universe or generation like Link it's the same Mario. So essentially you want a clone with unique moveset. In that case Blood Hawk should have his own moveset.

Why do people insist on having more Mario character who are somewhat interesting when many characters from other series offer much more potential? F-Zero, Starfox, Golden Sun, Punch Out have much more potential and reasons for getting in.

I've been saying this since I came back. Anyone can make a moveset and theoretically any character can be design to be playable (Just look at ROB, Pokemon Trainer, Mr. Game & Watch). I believe that a character's significance to a series as a whole and not just a one game fan favorite should be looked at first.

 

[Oasis_S]

Paper Mario is Mario from another game. They play off the paper effects which can give him a different moveset but he plays differently in many games (e.g. Sunshine). Sure he would look differently and you can make a new character out of it but the thing is it's still the same Mario. It's not Mario from an alternate universe or generation like Link it's the same Mario. So essentially you want a clone with unique moveset. In that case Blood Hawk should have his own moveset.

A clone with a unique moveset is not a clone.

 

[Conviction]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

SSB4 dream roster.......

Seeing how the link is in blackouts/spoilers it's probably something that is going to annoy people even more. Example #2 my boy.

Sounds similar to: THIS IS MY SON, WHOM I LOVE, LISTEN TO HIM!

Edit: Iblis, were you talking to me?

Oh Lord NO! That's a quote from the bible that I remember.

Btw being related, really? Iblis himself has made jokes about being someone's daddy. Lighten up yo

Nah I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to my boy, Papoose the Ripper.

That's your new name CTP. Hope you like it Papoose.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

A Luigi without a Mario moveset isnt a clone!

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[OmegaXXII]

A Luigi without a Mario moveset isnt a clone!

Oh for the love off..



Here you can basically add and post any ideas pertaining to the Black Knight, any suggestions and ideas are welcomed.

Okay first off I will start on voting, which moveset would like to see? Any particular specials, any technical data would really help out, check out my Black Knight moveset below.

Spoiler

THE BLACK KNIGHT JOINS THE FRAY!!

**Basics**

Stats:

Weight: 4.5/5
Height: 3.5/5
Speed: 1.5/5
Jump: 2/5
Power: 4.5/5
Range: 2/5
Throw: 1.5/5

A: Dark Initiative
Black Knight swings the sword over head down to the ground. This move has a fixed knockback.

AA: Cleave
Dark Knight brings the sword back and then rises it in a quick movement while the opponent is still stunned. This also has a fixed knockback.

AAA: Mutilate
After bringing up his sword, Black Knight's other hand joins the sword and he brings it down one last time with tremendous force. This attack hits the opponent downwards on a low trajectory. If the opponent is at a high percentage and near the ledge, it could possibly be fatal.

Forward Tilt: Smite
Black Knight shoves the hilt of his sword forward rather quickly, resembling his shoving animation in-game. While it's not powerful, it gives him some control over faster opponents.

Up Tilt: Valiant Strike
In a single rotation, the Black Knight lifts his sword back and then swings it forward in a simple advance

Down Tilt: Cripple
Black Knight swings the sword horizontally angled at a low height. It's his fastest sword attack. It hits foes at a low trajectory so it can be used to edge guard.

Dash Attack: Frontline Combat
Black Knight spins Alondite to his side then thrust it out. Getting hit by the rotation from the front will keep you in place for the thrust, getting hit by the rotation from the back will push you away too far to land an attack on Black Knight.

Smash Attacks

Forward Smash: Luna
Black Knight's ability in game! Black Knight makes two quick horizontal swings and then one last powerful diagonal downwards swing while advancing forward. To make this unique, if you shield this attack, 50% of it's damage will carry on through the shield but will not cause flinching. (Since Luna ignores defense in game.) This also pushes shielders away too far to counter attack. To balance this, if the foe is out of range or rolls behind Black Knight, he can be severely punished. This is easy to do since like almost all of Black Knight's attacks, it it slow.

Up Smash: Spire
Black Knight brings out a lance and strikes straight upwards. The player can hit A again to have Black Knight rotate the lance and push it out. The first stab pulls the foe in slowly to set up for the rotation part of the attack, which is a multihit. After Black Knight pushes it out, the foe goes flying. This could possibly be the most unwieldly yet powerful smash attack in the game. Since it's entirely vertical and has long range, it's best used on people who try to pass over Black Knight's head to make them regret it severely.

Down Smash: Nightmare
Black Knight flips Alondite to point down, and with all of his weight plants it into the ground. This immediately results in an explosion of dark flames on all sides. This would actually hit foes straight up.

**Specials**

•B Neutral: Dark Crasher
A very brutal attack. Dark Knight puts the sword to his side and steps back. He begins to charge up dark energy. After releasing, he steps forward and swings the sword. If a foe is struck with this, they fall down to the ground stunned. The stun time depends on how long this was charged and on how high their percentage was. To give a scale, if the foe was above 100% when this was used, they'd be stunned for 2 seconds. If it's fully charged, 8 seconds. (So you're pretty much dead.) Using this on an already stunned foe will just send them flying on a low trajectory but at limited distance, to encourage Black Knight users to be more creative. It is also to be noted that Black Knight is immune to flinching during the actual swinging animation, but not the charging animation.

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Option 2:

•B Neutral: Eclipse: After a charge up, Black Knight begins a barrage of brutal slashes, if an enemy is hit they are caught in the rest of the charged slashes. The last hit does high knockback.




•B Up: Warp Powder
We all saw this coming. Black Knight throws a dark, purple-ish hazy powder over head and starts to vanish. This comes out just a bit faster than Zelda's recovery but has half the distance. Of course Black Knight can choose which direction he goes. Two things make this different. If a foe was near Black Knight when he used this, they can hold a direction and warp as well! If Black Knight lands on the ground after using this from a high distance in mid air, his heavy armor will cause him to studder. If he reappears at a similar height from where he warped, there will be no delay at all. The reason for this is to give Black Knight a better way to approach to make up for his horrible movement speed. Though since there is still an initial animation involved, he'll have a hard time warping while being pelted with projectiles. Unlike other heavyweights, since this is a teleportation move, Black Knight does not get any flinch immunity while using this.

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Option 2

•B Up Special: Warp Powder Aesthetically Ike's entrance is based on this. Black Knight is a very slow character with terrible jumping abilities. But Warp Powder is one of the best recoveries in the game. It resembles Mewtwo's teleport in function though it has 1.5x the range, but has a notable start-up lag.





•B Forward: Grinder
Alondite strikes the ground. This sends a really fast energy wave across the stage floor. This can be charged but not stored. The size of the energy wave depends on how long it was charged, the maximum height is roughly half the height of Black Knight. The startup animation isn't too bad, but has the longest delay for a projectile. Not a horribly long delay, but about twice as long as Samus after firing a charged shot

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Option 2

•B Forward: Javelin Black Knight takes out a Javelin, there is a brief window where he can aim the Javelin by tapping any direction with the control stick. The Javelin is a powerful weapon that can temporarily stick enemies to walls, floors, or even other enemies!

•B Down: Counter
Black Knight quickly brings his cape infront of him with his left arm for 2 or 3 seconds. If Black Knight is attacked during the first second, he blocks the attack and one of two things happen depending on the enemy's location
If Black Knight is attacked at close range, his left arm swings out to stun them and then he swings his sword horizontally. The stunning attack is equivelant to half of their original damage but the swing itself is a powerful attack on it's own.
If it's a projectile, Black Knight pulls out a javelin from his cape and throws it at where ever the attacker is. The javelin is easy to dodge, but keeps the foe occupied for an approach.

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Option 2

•B Down Special: Weapon Equip
Black Knight starts with his classic weapon, the magical sword Alondite. By using Weapon Equip, Black Knight switches his weapon to the lance, Wishblade. By switching weapon types, Black Knights strikes will cause damage in different Areas. Wishblade is a longer reaching weapon with a smaller blade, Alondite is a tighter more defensive weapon. Also, when Alondite strikes, it sends a small silver shockwave doing little damage, no knockback.



Aerial Game
Jump: Black Knight has the longest jumping delay and a horrible jump height.

Neutral Air: Clearance
Black Knight pulls out a lance and spins it at his side. This isn't that powerful, but it can help him recover or make distance.

Forward Air: Domination
Black Knight does a full horizontal spin with the sword out. It hits like Link's spin attack in SSB64.

Up Air: Puncture
Black Knight turns to the side and looks up, swinging his sword back and forth over head. This actually hits the foe to the side depending on when they got hit.

Down Air: Swipe
Black Knight turns side ways and looks downwards as he pulls his cape across himself, then swings his arm out. This spike comes out somewhat fast and has a wide area, but it's short ranged.

Back Air: Brutal Fist
Black Knight leans to the side as he rams his fist behind him. Short ranged but powerful.

Grab Game
Black Knight's grab speed is about average. He grabs the foe by their head.

Grab Attack: Skull Crusher
Black Knight cringes his hand. It doesn't actually collapse their skull, though. xD

Forward throw: Finisher
Black Knight holds them out and slashes them away with a horizontal slash.

Down Throw: Slam
Black Knight slams them face first infront of him.

Up Throw: Impale
Black Knight holds them up and shoves the sword right into their center, sending them up.

Back Throw: Grounder
Black Knight brings his sword up and bashes their head with the hilt. This send the foe behind him.

**Final Smash**

Final Smash Idea 1: Ebon Cyclone
Black Knight begins to spin around faster and faster while holding out Alondite, creating a cyclone of dark energy around him. This pulls all enemies on the stage towards Black Knight with great force, depending on their distance. If they make contact with him, they're hit for tremendous damage. It last for 12 seconds and Black Knight can slowly move while using this.

Final Smash Idea 2: Destructive Wave
Black Knight plants Alondite into the ground and sends a tall wave of dark energy to both sides. This is very difficult to avoid, but easier to dodge if Black Knight was on lower ground prior to using this.

Final Smash Idea 3: Chains of Terror
Two magical ebon chains appear on the side of the stage and begin to home onto the nearest opponent for 15 seconds. If either makes contact, the other chain will join that one and wrap around the victim. Black Knight then does a powerful jump slash on the victim to send them flying.

Final Smash Idea 4: Ashera's Judgement The Fire Emblem releases Ashera who appears on stage and turns all the enemy players to stone. Black Knight can inflict damage until the duration ends (about the same length as Peach's) If an enemy receives more than 75% damage in this time, the stone shatters, and the enemy flies offstage, KO'd.

**Miscellaneous**

Taunts
One of the most memorable quotes. Black Knight raises his sword and glances before him questioning "Do you want to die?". For a better understanding, watch this. He could also say "Is that all?" or something like that.

Victory Pose 1
He puts Alondite into his scabbard and takes off his helmet to reveal his true identity, Zelgius. He could possibly then say "I live to serve the Goddess.", as she gave him everything he has.

Victory Pose 2
He spins Alondite around and then thrusts the tip into the ground, igniting dark flames around him as his hands rest upon the handle

Victory Pose 3
He swings horizontally twice and then raises the sword towards the screen, possibly followed by the words "None shall pass".

Music

Agaisnt The Black Knight Theme

 

[Conviction]

TLink and link almost have the exact same move sets, but the former plays much different than the latter

SSBFan: I like this too (all but the chris part) I'd like to thank Omega for making it happen

OMG, where have you been all this thread?? I haven't seen one person but me say something like that about the TLink vs. Link/Falco vs. Fox/Ness vs. Lucas/etc. thing.

@about chris: But you get to see father-son time.

A Luigi without a Mario moveset isnt a clone!

Nevermind your new name is Willis.

Whatchu talkin bout willis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

IGN SAKURAI INTERVIEW!NEW DEATAILS on SSB4!

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

IGN SAKURAI INTERVIEW!NEW DEATAILS on SSB4!

If you're trying to troll to look good, you are doing a horrible job. Just wanting to say that.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

IGN SAKURAI INTERVIEW!NEW DEATAILS on SSB4!

What is this?? Alright that's it....

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Nah,I just wanted to have a litte fun ;P ,but idk the history of P.Mario so Ima stay out of it. You guys clicked it!YAY!I didnt fail!

 

[Conviction]

Nah,I just wanted to have a litte fun ;P

tsk tsk tsk. Willis. We haven't gotten to trolling yet.

If you were a good troll, you would get a rise out of people. This isn't working though. My statement still stands son, and people have already deemed your post not to take seriously. If you want to see real trolling come see me at a Xat chat. Me and my crew roll through kid.