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[Artsy Omni]

My bad. ^^;;

Ghirahim has very little chance. XP So yes, he's the same as Midna. I concur.

 

[Oasis_S]

Which is too bad, because I'm replaying Twilight Princess and Midna (with Wolf Link) would be a great character. >:O

I'LL HOPE FOR ASSIST TROPHY.

 

[---]

Meh, I don't care for Tingle and can live with him if he gets in, but am against him as a 5th slot for Zelda, especially since I don't think Zelda needs yet another slot.

Plus his inclusion as a 4th Zelda slot means Link could be buffed by fusing him with Toon Link.

As for Ghirahim, I agree, just like Vatti and Minda in the past, I don't think he has much of a chance.

 

[Oasis_S]

If Sakurai would just revamp Dorf and Toon Link, the LoZ is essentially getting two new characters anyway.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I don't really see the need for another Zelda rep, but then again, I want Krystal, so I can't talk...

 

[OmegaXXII]

Ghirahim chances may be low, but you can't say he's impossible because of the fact that SS is coming out.

 

[MechaWave]

Zelda doesn't need another. The 4th slot is always different unless Sakurai chooses to keep Toon Link.

@Oasis: Pretty much.

 

[Johnknight1]

And if anyone needs a sword, it's a certain dorf. I won't say who!

But really, he needs a sword, some dark magic, and MROE BEAST GANON! Maybe past on the Ganon stomp of death to Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow or an actual F-Zero character who can take a few of his old moves with a new and original move set if we are blessed with a second F-Zero character, which currently seems unlikely.

And why would Toon Link need a revamped move set? He's perfect the way he is.

Spoiler

Nobody uses Link anyways. He sucks in Brawl! Gale Boomerang doing no damage kills him!

 

[Artsy Omni]

Ghirahim chances may be low, but you can't say he's impossible because of the fact that SS is coming out.

I never say it's impossible. =P

But he's a one-timer villain. So far. Lowlow.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@ Mecha: Says who? You can't judge the Zelda series at all!! Toon Link is probably coming back.

@Hex; Sorry bro I was talking to Mecha, not you lol..

 

[Johnknight1]

Vatti or a well-done Toon Zelda/Tetra could be interesting. They're a lot better than Wolf, Pichu, or Dr. Mario ever was.

 

[Artsy Omni]

Meh. I'm sick of the imaginary divide between "Toon" and the other Zeldas....

 

[MechaWave]

@Omega: I wouldn't mind another rep for Zelda. Toon Zelda/Tetra could work nicely. All I care about is Paper Mario.
@Hex: Well if you play Zelda or look information up, Toon Link actually is a different Link.

 

[OmegaXXII]

And if anyone needs a sword, it's a certain dorf. I won't say who!

But really, he needs a sword, some dark magic, and MROE BEAST GANON! Maybe past on the Ganon stomp of death to Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow or an actual F-Zero character who can take a few of his old moves with a new and original move set if we are blessed with a second F-Zero character, which currently seems unlikely.

And why would Toon Link need a revamped move set? He's perfect the way he is.

Spoiler

Nobody uses Link anyways. He sucks in Brawl! Gale Boomerang doing no damage kills him!

Ha! Who needs Toon Link anyway, I hardly ever play with him anyway

Adult Link>>>Toon link

 

[Fobmescs]

Slime & Chocobo? Slime & Chocobo don't work together. Chocobo always run away like from Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and so on.

 

[Artsy Omni]

@Omega: I wouldn't mind another rep for Zelda. Toon Zelda/Tetra could work nicely. All I care about is Paper Mario.
@Hex: Well if you play Zelda or look information up, Toon Link actually is a different Link.

Yes, but he's still the Link entity.

Otherwise, why don't we put aLttP Link, OoT Link, TP Link, tWW Link AAAAAND SS Link? They're all different.

In smash, Link should be treated as an entity that transcends the series. Otherwise, where do you draw the line?

 

[MechaWave]

@Hex: I know. I was just stating that.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Slime & Chocobo? Slime & Chocobo don't work together. Chocobo always run away like from Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and so on.

FACEPALM

You need to look at StarPhoenix's moveset!!

 

[Johnknight1]

Meh. I'm sick of the imaginary divide between "Toon" and the other Zeldas....

The Zelda franchise has gone two ways: Console realistic characters, and cute anime-like toon versions on the handhelds. If the Toon Zelda could be different enough (and not totally suck like Zelda always does in smash), it could be great, especially with an awesome pirate-based move set that Tetra could have. Besides, all the Zelda characters in smash aside from Toon Link (and maybe Sheik) suck anyways!

And Vatti could be a real great character, albeit his chances are low because he hasn't been in a game in about half a decade. He could be an excellent character, with two different forms that could both be original.

 

[Conviction]

@Hex: The links are actually two different entities. Young Link in Melee was the same Link as Adult Link. Toon and TL Link are different.

@Your Edit: I hate getting into Zelda Timeline arguments, but they are supposedly separate dimension timelines.

@Mecha: Word, I'll try it out.

And with that my ride is here.

We out.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

'Kay guys, I just cleared Stafy 2. Man, that game was long, but felt somewhat tedious despite it's easy go feel.

But the ending... SOOO HEARTWARMING!!!!! HNGGGHGHGHGHGHGH

*It helped that Stafy's official age is 7, so I imagine him to be cute kid...*

 

[OmegaXXII]

I never did understand the zelda timeline, it's by far one of the most confusing one's of all time from any game.

 

[Artsy Omni]

*sigh* that's not the point. The point is, Link, as an entity that transcends the entire series, can be summed up into one character, "Link." I'm not talking about the individual Links.

I would prefer there only be one Link to represent "Link" as an entity.... but I'd be content as long as Toon Link actually had completely different attacks.

Believe me, I know my Zelda continuity. I've spent the last 2 years debating and discussing profusely about Zelda canon at the Zelda Board at IGN. =P

 

[OmegaXXII]

'Kay guys, I just cleared Stafy 2. Man, that game was long, but felt somewhat tedious despite it's easy go feel.

But the ending... SOOO HEARTWARMING!!!!! HNGGGHGHGHGHGHGH

*It helped that Stafy's official age is 7, so I imagine him to be cute kid...*

Was it good,? for what system did you play it??

 

[MechaWave]

@Hex: I understand what you're saying. There aren't actually "different" so to speak, but are a single entity.

Toon Link really does need different attacks. Sakurai could do a lot of things with him instead of Luigifying him.

 

[Johnknight1]

Toon Link is the most different Link. All the other forms of Link are fairly similar. He uses different weapons, lives in a post-Hyrule time/era, and moves, acts, fights, and even walks completely differently. His tilt attacks could be a little different, but his very motions with nearly every attack is completely different. (besides, Link always is a bottom feeder in smash, maybe Melee aside)

As for the Zelda timeline (without getting into everything), all you need to know is it takes place in Hyrule, minus all the Toon Link games, which happen after Ocarina of Time.

First game chronilogically:
Minish Cap

A Link to the Past then takes place.

Then somewhere after that, Ocarina of Time, and then Majora's Mask.

Twilight Princess takes place some time after that.

Then somewhere after that, the Wind Waker, then Phantom Hourglass, then Spirit Tracks.

The rest go wherever.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@ Hex: What about paper Mario and regular Mario?

 

[Fobmescs]

FACEPALM

You need to look at StarPhoenix's moveset!!

Can you at least show me what's StarPhoenix's profile is?

 

[MechaWave]

@Fobmescs: http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=75375
@Omega: Why did you do that? The thing is with them is that even though they are the same exact character their moveset can be completely different and unique, as if Paper Mario wasn't Mario but is.

 

[Artsy Omni]

@ Hex: What about paper Mario and regular Mario?

Very different in terms of playstyle. Same individual technically, but Paper could be a new character. I don't particularly advocate it, but I'm not against it.

 

[---]

@Hex

Alright, any Zelda debater gets my respect.

Anyway I do agree with you. Link has such as huge moveset potential due to all his weapons (just like MM). There is really no reason why we need 2 Links with the same moveset but different attributes.

As for what to due with the Zelda slots, my thoughts are to fuse both Links together to create one main and balanced Link while freeing up the extra slot for another Zelda character like Tingle or another villain.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I wonder how the Snake codecs will be like this time around. In Brawl, he didn't know everybody so he used them (Otacon, Colonel, Mei Ling) to get info on the fighters, will Snake just be making funny commentary for the most part?

Otacon: "Snake, watch out!

Snake: "For what, that pink marshmallow?"

LOL

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Was it good,? for what system did you play it??

Emulated it, it's for GBA. It's a great improvement on first Stafy, being much more longer (maybe too much longer, 11 worlds? C'mon), and has more content to keep you playing.

The game had also it's good parts:

- Some good music (it became much better near end of the game, though, 9nth and 10nth world had the best music in my opinion)

- Kyorosuke/Moe is sometimes sucha comic relief. He seems to have things for women, At the last world, he and Stafy had to see a video about Ogura's schemes.Kyorosuke dropped a video which was colored pink, and when Stafy looked at it, I died.

It was seemingly having ecchi fish. XDDDD

Kyorosuke of course was blushing angrily like there was no tomorrow.

- The ending... man. Stafy finally got back to his mom. When I thought that by Starfy's 7-year old's eyes, it became 10000x cuter and heartwarming.

Good game, but not as good as Stafy 3, though. That's the game where Starly/Stapy makes her debut appearance. And Wario appears to help Stafy for one WHOLE WORLD in the game. Awesome.

 

[MechaWave]

@Metal Overlord: Well he didn't seem interested in any information given to him.

Also I believe in the Zelda split timeline.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Can you at least show me what's StarPhoenix's profile is?

Here it is:

http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=75375

 

[Artsy Omni]

@Metal Overlord: Well he didn't seem interested in any information given to him.

Also I believe in the Zelda split timeline.

I as well, though only because I believe the Zelda games are only loose retellings of actual events in the timeline, and not the occurence of those events in actuality.

 

[Johnknight1]

Why the heck would we remove an individual Link who stared in 3 games for a minor filler character named Tingle? Toon Link is more original, actually fights, and actually has a story and stars in it. Toon Link is completely original character-wise. No other Link is anything like him.

Tingle is probably like the 30th most important character in the series anyways. Why not add Vatti, Link's Uncle in A Link to the Past, Skull Kid, Ralph, Dark Link, Shadow Link, The Helmlock King, The Great Deku Tree, or Beast Ganon instead? They all have bigger roles in the story. Smash isn't for minor characters; it's for important characters in large series, and characters who stared in historically important or influential games.

And seriously, who doesn't believe in the split timeline? The Wind Waker opening basically confirms it... to a certain degree...

 

[OmegaXXII]

I wonder how the Snake codecs will be like this time around. In Brawl, he didn't know everybody so he used them (Otacon, Colonel, Mei Ling) to get info on the fighters, will Snake just be making funny commentary for the most part?

Otacon: "Snake, watch out!

Snake: "For what, that pink marshmallow?"

LOL

Man, that would be so amazing if they did that just like in the original Metal Gear Solid Game, instead of just Otacon and Mei Ling it should also be Natasha and Master, full commentary should happen.

Emulated it, it's for GBA. It's a great improvement on first Stafy, being much more longer (maybe too much longer, 11 worlds? C'mon), and has more content to keep you playing.

The game had also it's good parts:

- Some good music (it became much better near end of the game, though, 9nth and 10nth world had the best music in my opinion)

- Kyorosuke/Moe is sometimes sucha comic relief. He seems to have things for women, At the last world, he and Stafy had to see a video about Ogura's schemes.Kyorosuke dropped a video which was colored pink, and when Stafy looked at it, I died.

It was seemingly having ecchi fish. XDDDD

Kyorosuke of course was blushing angrily like there was no tomorrow.

- The ending... man. Stafy finally got back to his mom. When I thought that by Starfy's 7-year old's eyes, it became 10000x cuter and heartwarming.

Good game, but not as good as Stafy 3, though. That's the game where Starly/Stapy makes her debut appearance. And Wario appears to help Stafy for one WHOLE WORLD in the game. Awesome.

Sounds like a interesting game, also I never knew Wario made an appearance, wow, that's weird but that sounds amazing.

 

[MechaWave]

To be honest Wind Waker's opening is way to ****ing long especially if you play it more than once. Even if you never played it but saw walkthroughs or something you don't even want to sit there reading it all (again).

 

[Artsy Omni]

And seriously, who doesn't believe in the split timeline? The Wind Waker opening basically confirms it... to a certain degree...

One of the mods at IGN argues a singular timeline, and nobody can disprove his theory. He's a walking Zelda encyclopedia. >_>

But he assumes that all details in the games are to be taken as literally as possible. Therefore, a singular timeline actually has strong evidence supporting it, due to inconsistencies with the split timeline.

....I don't feel like getting into it.

Also, Tingle is probably one of the most important Zelda characters, as he's one of the few characters that actually transcends the series. He's in MM, tWW, TP (sort of), cameos in other games, and also has his own sub-franchise.