New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Deleted member]

I seriously didn't know there was a Rocky V...

Was it really bad?

IMO, Rocky IV was worse, but only because of the storyline and how it was executed.
However, the fight itself was one of the best fights.

 

[Johnknight1]

Rocky V had a worse plot, execution, and acting. Still, Rocky IV did have a lot of holes, poor plot lines, and loads of filler. Actually Rocky III-V had tons of filler, despite being short.

Right, that's sort of what I meant. I'm sympathetic towards the employees like Ono, who despite being hospitalized (probably due to being overworked), was told to get back to work, (which Capcom denies) and then immediately shipped off to Rome while he was recovering.

Yeah, I knew that's what you meant. And that sucks for Ono.

Yeah! Kaio: King of Pirates. It looks awesome and I love the character designs. ^_^
I'll definitely pick it up when it comes out, but I think it would also be awesome if he made a game in collaboration with Nintendo. Plus then it would be eligible for Smash (as a 2nd party).

If it's as good as it looks, I want some trophies and stickers in Smash Wii U and 3DS. When Smash 6 comes around, it better get a sequel, and a playable smash characters!

 

[Deleted member]

Simply put, nothing beats the first 3.
Honestly should have ended there. (R.I.P. Apollo )

 

[Claire Diviner]

Simply put, nothing beats the first 3.
Honestly should have ended there. (R.I.P. Apollo )

I thought Rocky Balboa (Rocky VI) was pretty good, and a nice way to end the series (or so I assume and hope is the end).

 

[Johnknight1]

Simply put, nothing beats the first 3.
Honestly should have ended there. (R.I.P. Apollo )

I thought the 1st 2 were good. The 3rd should have taken place years and years after Rocky was undefeated, and featured more of a personal crisis in Rocky's life. Like have Adrian get cancer or something, and Rocky is suffering with some serious physical damage. That would have made it more appealing. I was okay with the 6th one, though.

 

[Deucalion]

I thought IV was mediocre as opposed to bad. V was just awful though, thankfully VI rescued it.

 

[Johnknight1]

I ironically kinda feel the same way about Smash Bros; I'm not too high on the 3rd one!

Hopefully the forthcoming Smash 3DS and WiiU are quality games. By the way, if one game comes out earlier, which one do you think it will be=???

Personally, I think Smash 3DS would come out earlier than Smash WiiU, because the staff knows more about the 3DS' technology.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

The White Tanooki is indeed in the 3DS Mario, it is given to you when you are failing really hard. I'm guessing they are continuing that with NSMBU.

 

[Deleted member]

Got dang Super Guides ruining the challenge of games....
Donkey Kong did it, Mario did it.
What's next, Pokemon? You lose so bad that an Uber Trainer plays for you with invincible Pokemon?

Sonic? A White Sonic plays the level for you?
Zelda? A Link in white clears the dungeon for you?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Cranky has always said that today's games are easier than the classics. Of course, in Donkey Kong Country Returns, Super Kong can't bail you out of Mirror Mode.

Anyway, I doubt that we'll have to be concerned with Super Guides in Smash Bros..

 

[FlareHabanero]

Super Guides are completely optional though. If you don't want to use the Super Guide, just ignore it.

 

[Deucalion]

Super Guides are completely optional though. If you don't want the Super Guide just ignore it.

This. If anything, it gives developers an excuse to make things harder.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Yeah, I actually welcome such features. They can make the game for core gamers, and when children like my two younger sisters play Mario 3DS, when they have a hard time, they can use the White Tanooki suit. It is appreciated. Helps also because sometimes instead of just handing the 3DS to me telling me to do it for them, they may be able to do it themselves after a while.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

What's good people? I saw that interview...

 

[Johnknight1]

Got dang Super Guides ruining the challenge of games....

Today's video games are hardly challenging at all. The way they make games difficult is broken AI (ie: getting a head shot from 500 feet away without a scope), increasing the number of enemies to where you can't dodge, or just make enemies do more damage (like Skyward Sword's Hero Mode where you take double damage).

I don't think I've died in a Mario game (aside from Sunshine's camera killing me) since Super Mario 64. The only Zelda games I've died in are the 1st four! So making them easier (or in this case, easier to learn) isn't something that is going to take away from the games that haven't already been taken away.

If anything, they make it easier for new-ish gamers to get into gaming, which is a good thing. If you don't want to use them, you don't have to.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Got dang Super Guides ruining the challenge of games....
Donkey Kong did it, Mario did it.
What's next, Pokemon? You lose so bad that an Uber Trainer plays for you with invincible Pokemon?

Sonic? A White Sonic plays the level for you?
Zelda? A Link in white clears the dungeon for you?

It's funny because that sonic idea was supposed to be in the rumored sonic dimensions.

 

[BKupa666]

Speaking of getting reported on again, Sakurai mentioned a little bit about retro characters again. You guys can digest this one:

Old characters most certainly includes retro characters, but I'm hoping it also references those who may not have been in their series' last installment for terrible reasons, but are fan favorites regardless.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think Sakurai meant retro characters as in somewhat forgotten characters. I think we can cross characters like King K. Rool and Ridley off that list! [COLLAPSE="This guy seriously needs to be in the next smash bros. For realZs!!!"]

[/COLLAPSE]

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Super Mario 3DS is harder than the other 3D mario games in the sense that you don't have health, you do it typical one hit Mario style (unless you have an item on obviously). Having health in the Galaxy games and 64 made it really hard for me to die unless I made a misstep in platforming near an edge.

At least NSMBU doesn't give you health and you play it traditional Mario style, it'll probably require more attention from me than the two Galaxy games forced on me (excluding I think a level or two in them).

 

[BKupa666]

Well, it would make sense for Takamaru to be one of the first characters developed, since his moveset would likely be pretty generic.

 

[Johnknight1]

I wouldn't necessarily call Takamaru's moves "generic." Maybe "simple," but not "generic."

And the 1st characters developed will be the veterans, because there is already tons of content for them, especially if they were in Smash 64 and Melee (as well as Brawl). For movesets you just have to tweak stuff instead of make new stuff, which is about 10 times as easy as creating something from the ground up.

However, there may be some brand new moves for some veterans, of course. That is of course the exception to the rule, but not a huge one.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Yeah,because anyway,it's not fun when someone have to do it for you,like you're hungry but you have a hard time at eating,"if you want,i can eat it,for you"you'd rather look if something for your problems exist.Like if you have a hard time walking,you'll be given special shoes.Same here.If you have a hard time putting your shoes somewhere,take Ridley,it's a shoe-in.

 

[lordvaati]

Adam Riley: You have mentioned how you like to breathe new life into forgotten franchises. Now that Kid Icarus has been completed, what other old classic would you like to look at? Ice Climbers, Star Tropics, MoleMania…or something non-Nintendo?

Sakurai-san: I am planning on doing my best to bring old characters back in Smash Bros. From that perspective, I am probably in the most fortunate position in the world.

My reaction to reading this.

 

[Johnknight1]

My reaction if the new retro character is as awesome as the ones thus far in smash bros.

(minus Pit, because his moveset, most of the people who main him, and his play style is garbage)​

 

[Katy Parry]

I honestly don't see very many new series making any entries. I mean, what does Nintendo really have left? Maybe if they make some new exclusives with the Wii U.

 

[Johnknight1]

Nintendo has hundreds of IPs left ethan mai boi. The Project Rainfall Trio IPs, several dozen forgotten retro franchises and games, and quite a few new underrated gems like Geist, Eternal Darkness, etc.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Sheriff is starting to become a stronger possibility with that statement. I mean there is nothing more retro then a character that debuted before Mario.

 

[Johnknight1]

There are quite a few Nintendo characters that debuted before Mario.

However, Sheriff is the oldest Nintendo character, and pre-dates even the great Game and Watch handheld games.

 

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Speaking of reiterating old news, here's a new interview where Sakurai again states he plans to revive retro character(s) in SSB4.

My favorite part is Sakurai finally got asked about StarTropics.

The rest of the interview is mostly about Uprising.
http://www.cubed3.com/news/16920

And into the info thread it goes.

I bet we're among the few people who knew about stuff like that before hand.

Sadly, Capcom will be losing one of its' best employees. Capcom seems like a sinking ship...

Such a shame, but not as bad as the loss of Inafune.

Take that, Crapcom! This is what happens for killing off Mega Man.

Crapcom yes, but for other reasons. Mega Man is not dead, he's on hiatus (most likely until the end of this year or early next year).

Well, it would make sense for Takamaru to be one of the first characters developed, since his moveset would likely be pretty generic.

Generic? Have you even see his game?

Can turn invisble, throw Fireballs/Knives/Windmill Swords, summon lightning, block projectiles with his sword, can run on water, as well as improve his projectiles abilities and his running speed.

He can do way more than any other sword user in Smash or possible sword newcomer bar Link. lol

 

[Deleted member]

How is Sheriff any stronger of a possibility with that statement?

He didn't say "before Mario", and there are a crapton of Retros that could be factored in, such as Takamaru, Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter (Olimar nulls his "useless without balloons" statement), etc.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Triple Dash
Nothing is as bad for Capcom as losing Inafune, except if they have to lay off a huge amount of their company. That man is a freaking genius among geniuses.

What that man turned that blue robot into, the amount of awesome levels, games, and new concepts he made for just the classic Mega Man franchise is mind-blowing!

 

[FlareHabanero]

I never said Sheriff was the only possibility, but more like one of the possibilities. Personally Takamaru and Sheriff would be enough retro wise, but again the possibilities are somewhat diverse with the statement. There is also stuff like Sukapon, Prince Sable, Muddy Mole, Mike Jones, Lip, Mike (Battle Clash), and so on.

 

[Oasis_S]

Sheriff is better off with a stage.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm merely questioning your statement that Sheriff is now stronger of a possibility, when nothing has changed from before the quote and after.
Sakurai's saying what we already knew, that there will be more revivals.
With Melee and Brawl having them, that was kind of a given.

Whatever "possibility" he had is the same. As it is for Mach Rider, Takamaru, Balloon Fighter, Muddy Mole, etc.
Their chances didn't "magically" go up; they are at the same level they were prior to the quote.

 

[shinhed-echi]

People that think "I don't think there are enough franchises left for Nintendo to cover" could really use investigating Nintendo's library throughout its history a bit more...

-Punch Out
-Golden Sun
-Balloon Fight
-Nazo no Murasame
-Mole Mania
-Star Tropics
-Sin and Punishment
-Eternal Darkness
-Geist
-Joy Mech Fight
-Chibi Robot
-Custom Robo
-Mach Rider
-Pro Wrestling
-Air Fortress
-Panel de Pon


And these are just off the top of my head. (And sure some of these were one-shots).

 

[Oasis_S]

 

[Johnknight1]

I failed to see Starfy brought up....

Also, go easy on ethan. He's my boi mah smash brothers and sisters.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Oasis, why you do like to give random characters maid outfits?

Spoiler

If that's the case, then how about King K. Rool in a maid outfit.

 

[Oasis_S]

Chibi Robo (NO T, SHINHED YOU FAILURE OF A NERD) is hardly a random choice for a maidly character.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well I guess you're right in a sense. Never was really interested in any of the Chibi Robo games, so I forgot there for a second.