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[Diddy Kong]

Same here. Takamaru = the new Pit imo. He's got all the potential, and would make an awesome retro revival. Best retro choice overall to imo as far as newcomers go.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, go ahead with Takamaru.
Flaming shuriken, lightning mines, invisibility cloak? Yes please.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yes please indeed.

Also, I got my Melee copy back *****es!!! :D

 

[grizby2]

I ment the Iris thing, but yeah, that too. Probably a small mistake on their part though.


@SSBF: Takamaru is my top choice for a retro rep. His game is good, but man it is ****ing hard. He's closer to a ninja IMO, and Smash could always use more ninjas.

before i log off...
in samurai warriors 3 he fought VERY MUCH like a samurai, and wasn't ninja-esque at all.
he was also, unfortunately, one of the worst characters to play as in that game. XD
but that can change in ssb4.

anyway, later yall!

 

[Wario Bros.]

Very interesting site. It does seem like in some parts he's just pulling random numbers out of his *** but I like some of his choices. And I don't understand why he's thinking of Assists this soon (I also don't understand why he put Dr. Mario, Young Link, Roy, and Mewtwo under newcomers (I don't believe just because they were absent in Brawl it means they're newcomers again)

Also, Takamaru is in my top 20 even though I know nothing about his game.

 

[Diddy Kong]

What about this % stuff and GoldenY saying these same people say Falco is likelier to return than Fox? Can I get a link please?

I kinda wonder where they ranked Sheik loo

 

[Wario Bros.]

http://ikusaba.client.jp/index.htm

Characters on the second row on the column on the left

 

[Deleted member]

What about this % stuff and GoldenY saying these same people say Falco is likelier to return than Fox? Can I get a link please?

I kinda wonder where they ranked Sheik loo

They say Sheik is 100%.

They list all 64 Veterans and Melee Veterans that were in Brawl as 100% (Except Fox)

 

[N3ON]

I would love to see Takamaru, he has alot of potential with both samurai and ninja moves, and he would finally be a katana-wielder (also so would Goroh).

I think he is one of the most likely characters Sakurai was referring to when he stated about the retro character he's chosen to give a Pit-style revival to.

 

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before i log off...
in samurai warriors 3 he fought VERY MUCH like a samurai, and wasn't ninja-esque at all.
he was also, unfortunately, one of the worst characters to play as in that game. XD
but that can change in ssb4.

anyway, later yall!

Bah, that was a different game. I don't think he even got any of his projectiles in that.

Interesting note though, is that it was Nintendo who redesigned him for that game...

What about this % stuff and GoldenY saying these same people say Falco is likelier to return than Fox? Can I get a link please?

I kinda wonder where they ranked Sheik loo

One of my posts two pages ago.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Samurai Goroh
Takamaru
Daigoroh
Samurai Jack (let's throw in the Scotsman too while we're at it)

We out

 

[Deleted member]

I approve of the Scotsman idea, Metal.
Hell, let's have Jack, Scotsman, and Aku as well.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Aku? Hell yeah

And the theme song too

GOTTA GET BACK
BACK TO THE PAST
SAMURAI JACK

 

[Deleted member]

and the theme song too

gotta get back
back to the past
samurai jack

WATCH OUT!
*Shing*

 

[yani]

@Holder I beat Xenoblade

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IF ONLY XENOBLADE COULD GET THREE REPS

 

[Diddy Kong]

http://ikusaba.client.jp/index.htm

Characters on the second row on the column on the left

I really dislike some of their choices, especially Fi and GhirQueerahim over Impa, and Adam over Anthony. People should remember Anthony.

Don't like their perception of Sheik being more likely to return than Diddy either. As well as a separate Sheik, and again, no Impa.

Maybe I should just go play Melee though.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

@Holder I beat Xenoblade

Spoiler

IF ONLY XENOBLADE COULD GET THREE REPS

Oh yeah, how'd you like it bud? :D I thought the ending was sooooo cooooooool

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You could pretty much put all of the playable characters in SSB4 and have it work. XD

 

[Deleted member]

I really dislike some of their choices, especially Fi and GhirQueerahim over Impa, and Adam over Anthony. People should remember Anthony.

Don't like their perception of Sheik being more likely to return than Diddy either. As well as a separate Sheik, and again, no Impa.

Maybe I should just go play Melee though.

They never said Sheik was seperate. They just LIST her seperate.
And a two-time veteran technically is more likely than a one-time veteran.
Lest we not forget Mewtwo....:mewtwo:
Everyone was so sure that he would be in Brawl...especially before the likes of Jigglypuff...

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Yeah, that place puts Ghirahim's chances less than 25%.

I call BS on the whole website.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Need I remind you that Smash Bros is just Kirby Super Star at its heart? I'd say that was a pretty successful platformer, and that's why I enjoyed Subspace. It gave me an entire Kirby game with my Smash Bros purchase, including a Metroidvania as the last level.

No, that's an insult to Kirby games everywhere. The method of controlling is similar yes, but Kirby games are made with the big adventure in mind. The subspace took the basic control of a fighting game's characters and just added full on side scrolling stages. Running through subspace as any one of the characters in Smash does not feel nearly as natural as any Kirby game before or after it.

I don't have all the technical jargon for it, but the handling of the Smash Bros characters feels nothing like Kirby Super Star. It's one thing to be battling other smash characters while trying to jump from platform to platform in an enclosed environment(moving stage or not), it is completely different turning that into a full on adventure mode.

At first glance and even the first few moments it feels just like Kirby, but after a while with the game, the apparent differences in handling is clear, which makes it not nearly as enjoyable.

 

[N3ON]

The maker(s) of that site also have a pixiv page with a bunch more characters.
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=182307

It doesn't try to predict them (poorly) like the site does though.

And I'm pretty sure they don't even have an Impa trophy there either

 

[Diddy Kong]

They also put Krystal likelier than Dixie, and Doc and Mewtwo just as likely, as well as listing Krom and Roy about 35-40%. BS indeed.

And yeah I wanted Mewtwo back in Brawl to very badly, and thought at least he would make it before Sheik...

 

[Deleted member]

Look, just because YOU don't like Sheik and YOU want her gone doesn't make her likely to be gone. Capishe? It is unwise to delude yourself.

 

[Diddy Kong]

It's unwise to see her as a guranteed playable character again with plenty of seriousnthings going against her.

Time will tell

 

[N3ON]

She's not guaranteed, but she's a whole lot likelier than Impa.

Plus to that site's credit, it at least acknowledges characters with mostly western popularity (Ridley, Little Mac). Most Japanese smashers ignore them.

 

[yani]

Oh yeah, how'd you like it bud? :D I thought the ending was sooooo cooooooool

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You could pretty much put all of the playable characters in SSB4 and have it work. XD

It was a fantastic ending! I was a bit confused by

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Alvis

though.

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Seven would be Monado tier

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Diddy, it doesn't matter if things are against Sheik. If Sakurai likes Sheik, and wants Sheik in, Sheik is as good as confirmed. Nothing else matters.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, giving thoughts on chances given by them.

- I'm surprised this site doesn't see Zoroark as a shoe-in (which I agree he isn't) but more in the 50% range. From what I've heard from ChronoBound, he's generally considered inevitable in Japan. That said, he does rank among the highest along with Shulk, King K. Rool, and Ridley, both of whom are considered equally as likely on that site.

- For someone with little fan base in Japan, Krystal is surprisingly above 25% (although still below 50%). I expected the site to say she had no shot.

- Lucario is not considered an inevitable removal. It's nice to see that the Japanese still have faith in him returning (or at least that site).

- Diddy Kong not considered inevitable for a return? WTF? Also shocked at how they think Dedede's and Meta-Knight's exclusions are possible along with Fox, Olimar, Wario, and Pit.

- Very much disagree with Pokemon Trainer (Red) only having a 50/50 shot of returning.

- Why is Mewtwo so low?

- Site is very conservative on newcomers chances. If this was America, this site would consider Zoroark, Shulk, Ridley, and K. Rool a shoe-in.

 

[ChronoBound]

I hope you all realize this is just one person's opinion. Those are simply the opinions of the artist for that site.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Sheik > Tree branch

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sheik > Tree branch

The only acceptable version of Impa is Oracle games. She has uniqueness that SS doesn't.

As in she won't be a Sheik clone. Sounds like a winner to me.

Plus, a big woman in Smash hasn't been done either. It wouldn't hurt.

 

[N3ON]

Alright, giving thoughts on chances given by them.

- I'm surprised this site doesn't see Zoroark as a shoe-in (which I agree he isn't) but more in the 50% range. From what I've heard from ChronoBound, he's generally considered inevitable in Japan. That said, he does rank among the highest along with Shulk, King K. Rool, and Ridley, both of whom are considered equally as likely on that site.

- For someone with little fan base in Japan, Krystal is surprisingly above 25% (although still below 50%). I expected the site to say she had no shot.

- Lucario is not considered an inevitable removal. It's nice to see that the Japanese still have faith in him returning (or at least that site).

- Diddy Kong not considered inevitable for a return? WTF? Also shocked at how they think Dedede's and Meta-Knight's exclusions are possible along with Fox, Olimar, Wario, and Pit.

- Very much disagree with Pokemon Trainer (Red) only having a 50/50 shot of returning.

- Why is Mewtwo so low?

- Site is very conservative on newcomers chances. If this was America, this site would consider Zoroark, Shulk, Ridley, and K. Rool a shoe-in.

I think the person is either trying to give a worldwide opinion (and doing poorly at it), or just giving their own opinion.

Either way, they aren't the most accurate predictions (by a long shot), but honestly there have been alot worse.

Plus they're just predictions. I'm mostly focusing on the pics.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Hyper- The thick soul sistahs need love too

 

[Holder of the Heel]

It was a fantastic ending! I was a bit confused by

Spoiler

Alvis

though.

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Seven would be Monado tier

Yeah, the whole

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Zanza, Monado, Bionis, Alvis

thing actually confused the crap out of me, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. XP

Zanza should be playable. And Yaldabaoth.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I'm starting to wonder if and where Starfy is on this list.

 

[N3ON]

^He's there. His chances are a little under 50%

 

[Deleted member]

I think the person is either trying to give a worldwide opinion (and doing poorly at it), or just giving their own opinion.

Either way, they aren't the most accurate predictions (by a long shot), but honestly there have been alot worse.

Plus they're just predictions. I'm mostly focusing on the pics.

Considering the very conservative amount for what he considers most likely, I'm willing to bet that it's just him. That said, those are fantastic pictures and I like them very much.

 

[Deleted member]

@SSBF: Takamaru is my top choice for a retro rep. His game is good, but man it is ****ing hard. He's closer to a ninja IMO, and Smash could always use more ninjas.

Duck Hunt Dog is my top choice, but Takamaru is a close second as well. Lip is my third retro choice.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@Hyper- The thick soul sistahs need love too

Damn straight. We got Wario for the big men.

Toon Ganondorf would help that too, and he's agile as hell and practically one of the most powerful versions of Ganondorf ever. He's the only one to have THREE extra forms alone, pretty much could either be sympathetic or a complete monster, and used two swords by default.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Lucario? More likely to come back than Diddy or Pokemon Trainer? lol

Toon Ganondorf is badass