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This is the order I would put the characters for the next Smash in terms of weight with Ridley and K. Rool added:

1. K. Rool
2. Bowser
3. DK
4. Ridley
5. DeDeDe
Here's what my weight scale pretty much states, if you don't want to waste time finding that post...

[collapse=Weight Scale]1: King K. Rool
2: Bowser
3-4: Donkey Kong, Emboar
5-7: Samus, Dark Samus, King Dedede
8-9: Ganondorf, Black Shadow
10-11: Samurai Goroh, Ike
12-14: Wario, Mewtwo, R.O.B.
15-17: Link, Captain Falcon, Mega Man X
18-20: Ridley, Wolf, Palutena
21-22: Lucario, Zoroark
23-26: Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Sonic
27-28: Pit, Takamaru
29-31: Little Mac, Isaac, Saki
32-33: Rosalina, Black Mage
34-35: Ness, Lucas
36-37: Toon Link, Ice Climbers
38-40: Bowser Jr., Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong
41-43: Peach, Leon, Marth
44-45: Falco, Servine
46-47: Zelda, Impa
48-51: Skull Kid, Meta Knight, Fox, Tails
52-54: Zero Suit Samus, Krystal, Pikachu
55-56: Kirby, Bandanna Waddle Dee
57-58: Olimar, Ray Mk III
59-61: Starfy, Oshawott, Chibi-Robo
62: Mr. Game & Watch
63: Jigglypuff[/collapse]

Anyway, I've always asked myself why is Yoshi being treated as a heavyweight. He's never classified as being heavy in the Mario spin-offs after all. And considering that he has taken a more humanoid stance, and is now shorter than Peach, you'd think that he'd be downgraded to the middleweight level by now.
 

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Yoshi's heavy cause Sakurai sucks at balancing and probably considers that as a make up act for him not having a 3rd jump.
 

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Don't you mess with my Yoshi. Why is no one complaining about Marth being as light as Peach. Weights don't have to make sense.
 

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Yoshi's heavy cause Sakurai sucks at balancing and probably considers that as a make up act for him not having a 3rd jump.
But it just makes no sense, especially since Yoshi is lighter than Wario in practically every Mario spin-off title that they've appeared in.

Don't you mess with my Yoshi. Why is no one complaining about Marth being as light as Peach. Weights don't have to make sense.
Well, Mewtwo's weight in Melee made absolutely no sense either. It's lighter than the princesses, despite weighing 269 lbs., and yet in Brawl, Charizard, Ivysaur, and Lucario (all of which are lighter than 200 lbs.) outweigh Mario.
 

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Weights? King Dedede needs a little less weight and more speed. Seriously. Like... As serious as my love for Pokemon. And that's serious.
 

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Don't you mess with my Yoshi. Why is no one complaining about Marth being as light as Peach. Weights don't have to make sense.
You want Marth to be heavier? Now what, should we make Meta Knight faster to? :smirk:
 

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I just read another Japanese post referencing overseas popularity, this time it was with Punch-Out. I think Ridley and Little Mac are going to be fine, seeing as even Japanese Smash fans are aware of their Western popularity.
 

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Weights? King Dedede needs a little less weight and more speed. Seriously. Like... As serious as my love for Pokemon. And that's serious.
Return to Dream Land says otherwise. Of course, Dedede never used a mechanical hammer in that game, so he'd probably weigh a lot less.
 

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Masked Dedede would be better than sending out a swarm of Waddle Dees, Waddle Doos, and Gordos. How it would work out is another story, considering how versatile that mechanical hammer is.
 

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I approve. :smirk:
King Dedede will not clobeh yah.

Masked Dedede would be better than sending out a swarm of Waddle Dees, Waddle Doos, and Gordos. How it would work out is another story, considering how versatile that mechanical hammer is.
Think is it like Wario's FS, except his (B) moves switch up a little bit more.

I'll work on it.
 

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Masked Dedede would be better than sending out a swarm of Waddle Dees, Waddle Doos, and Gordos. How it would work out is another story, considering how versatile that mechanical hammer is.
Like his current Final Smash?

Could be his new Down B though that animation. Dedede's' Down B wasn't' worth the charge most of the time in Brawl, could use improvement. Overall I really like what they done with him in Project M so far.

Though Masked Dedede, Masked Marth? Which other masked characters will appear? :smirk:
 

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Like his current Final Smash?

Could be his new Down B though that animation. Dedede's' Down B wasn't' worth the charge most of the time in Brawl, could use improvement. Overall I really like what they done with him in Project M so far.

Though Masked Dedede, Masked Marth? Which other masked characters will appear? :smirk:
Masked Dedede will CLOBEH YA'LL TO TEH FLOOR!
 

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Like his current Final Smash?

Could be his new Down B though that animation. Dedede's' Down B wasn't' worth the charge most of the time in Brawl, could use improvement. Overall I really like what they done with him in Project M so far.

Though Masked Dedede, Masked Marth? Which other masked characters will appear? :smirk:
Masked Meta Knight, of course. :troll:
Throw in Masked Waddle Dee to throw off the heroes and make them wonder, "Who on earth IS that masked man?"
 

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I've been out and about Chu, but you should send me the entirety of this storyline, I would love to read it.
I've been reading your storyline Chu, it's quite awesome and I can actually imagine most of that being factual, definitely liking it and hope you keep more coming.
Thanks guys :)

@Shortie:I will. I'll likely either post it again in the backroom or make a blog of it.

Gonna keep going I guess. Wonder if anyone else sees this. Probably too busy talking about Dixie Kong.

Chapter 23)Pokemon Trainer and Shulk climb to the sky garden where they find Ivysaur and Charizard (who they fight again). But this time, they also meet up with Ridley, who attacks them. Turns out he is under the dimensional force's control. He is beaten, and flies off. The two look towards the large island in the sky.

Chapter 24)Palutena, Luigi, and Peach are on a long, forgotten highway. Luigi is tired :(. They are then ambushed by dimension troops. Then, out of nowhere, Captain Falcon scream by and saves the day with a Falcon Punch. He then gives a salute. Peach and Palutena swoon and Luigi looks not pleased. Palutena points the way and the four continue.

Chapter 25)Wario is running down the desert in his chopper, headed to a Pyramid in the distant. He is then met up with Samurai Gohor. They duke it out and then crash. The two both get up and run towards the pyramid. You can still use both.....

Chapter 26)The Great Fox confronts the Halberd. Fox and Falco go off and attack the ship. They soon land on it with Saki, Dedede and Meta-Knight. The three move towards the main deck. They are then meet with Wolf who jumps off his Wolfen. He then lays a device which creates a dimensional Wolf (who is stronger). He fights them. After the fight, he joins with you.

Chapter 27)Ike, Marth, Link, Sheik and Takamaru are messing with the teleporter. Ike gets mad and punches it, which messes it up and sends them back onto the Subspace ship. It is now twisted and warped. They must fight though it and then fight Mewtwo as well as a copy of him. After beating him, the knock Mewtwo into the reactor, and the ship goes haywire. The team find the Halberd outside below them. The 5 of them jump off and onto the bridge of the Halberd.

Chapter 28)Mario, Pit, Yoshi and Kirby make it to the Pyramid. But the door is shut. Soon Goroh and Wario come by. The two decide to smash he door down and the 6 go inside. They find the cannon at the end, but are stopped by a boss. They defeat him, but Goroh makes off with it in his Fiery Stingray. The others chase after him.

Chapter 29)Olimar's ship is under attack by the dimensional forces. It's shot down (only to be latched onto by the dimensional island) and Olimar falls down onto a mountain. He is then meet with Ice Climbers. The two head up the mountain. At the top, they see the island in the distance. Lucario meditates by himself and remains there, but Ridley attacks. He leaps forwards to help the two. They defeat him and he is free of the dimensional control. He then looks to the island and roars (or shrieks). Lucario, Olimar and Ice Climbers jump on his back towards the island.

Enough for now. It's getting more convoluted with so many small parties. I will say that the game works in that the dimensional forces are quite strong, stronger than most foes. They don't really appear till later because of it. Levels like the desert don't have them. You'll still see enemies from others series as well. The Halberd has Kirby enemies as does the desert. Ice Climber's level has enemies from the same game.
For that city level I made up, this music should play
If Sonic is in of course.

Chapter X3)Jigglypuff and Toon Link make their way to a river. The two are fishing and they somehow manage to pull Roy (in his trophy form) out. In the distance, they see the subspace ship blow up. Jigglypuff heads out with Roy and Toon Link behind her.

Chapter 30)This one goes back to the factory level where you had two teams fight. The team that won plays this level. They escape the factory in a small pod, but it is shot down. They are in the Jungle Heights. The yellow tube broke and Mr. Game and Watch was inside (they were using him again to make shadow bugs). He decides to wake up the other three. They then head towards the Halberd after they see the subspace ship blow up. At the end of the level, two scenes can happen. Either DK and friends blast off from a barrel or K. Rool uses a grappling hook and they get there that way.

Chapter 31)Palutena opens a gate to the Underworld. Luigi is of course scared. Falcon and Palutena go in. Peach gives Luigi a stern look and he follows. At the end, they fight a boss and they find the ship. Plautena boards it and messes with a orb and the ship lights up. It then flies out from a portal.

Chapter 32)Little Mac, Toad, Lucas and Ness see the Fiery Stingray go across and canyon (with the canon carried on top). They follow it. And reach it in the end

Chapter 33)Goroh is attacked by dimensional forces. Little Mac and friends try to help. Soon, Mario and his crew (as well as Wario) jump in and fight. At the end, there are just too many foes. But just in time, Plautena's ship comes and canons on the side fire away. They are able to put the larger canon on the front of the ship and fly off. Mario and Toad are happy to see Peach and Pit is happy to see Plautena. The fist arch is complete.

Chapter 34)Pikachu and Samus were captured a long while back. In the island, the ROB are being forced to work for the dimansional forces, but our ROB from the last game still is in control. He sneaks away and into the cell where now ZSS and Pikachu are. He uses her laser beams to break the bars and free them. An alarm goes off, and the three start running. Eventually, they find Samus's suit, but are met by Black Shadow again. They fight him and two copies of himself. After he is beaten, Samus puts back on the power suit and is ready to go. The two make it outside and see a chain like object holding up the factory. They decide to go inside.

Chapter 35)In this level, you may chose to play as either Ridley and co. or Shulk and Pokemon Trainer (who fly on Charizard). Either way, they fight on top of the island. At the end, they both met up and find a passage inside. Ridley then flies off.

Chapter 36)The winning team makes in on the Halberd with the rest. But they are soon attacked by dimensional forces. Out of no where, Ridley starts attacking them as well. All of them, including Ridley, fight them.

Chapter 37)Samus, Pikachu and ROB enter the factory. There, they find the losing team. They soon find out thatm using weird machine, they are able to produce new foes to attack with. No surprise they decide to blow up the facility. When they destroy the core, a timed escape sequence happens. They finally find Samus's ship and another ship. They pilot both and escape.

Chapter 38)The other team made it inside in what looks to be a research facility. They finally find Mii, which they were doing experiments with. Turns out it was happening to other Miis as well. They free them and try to take over the island. They meet Ganondorf himself at the end. But he escapes and sends out a fearsome boss. The heroes defeat it and save the day. Samus and friends see this and pick up Shulk and the others.

Everyone is ready for the final assault. I'll explain how this part of the game works another time.
 

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Interesting, I liked these chapters a lot, I hate the Miis but I can't ignore the fact that they are there, so I like the way you incorporated them.

This is based off of your roster in your sig right Chu?
 

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Interesting, I liked these chapters a lot, I hate the Miis but I can't ignore the fact that they are there, so I like the way you incorporated them.

This is based off of your roster in your sig right Chu?
No. It's based off the newest one (which I made for a betting contest). The changes from my old roster

Remove: Zoroark and Sherrif
Add:Mii and Black Shadow

There may be more I forgot.
 

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This one Japanese site I looked at today had a lot of requests for Shulk. I also saw a request there that asked for Ridley because he would "like more dragon characters in Smash Bros."
 

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How many dragons does Nintendo have anyway. Mario has Yoshi I guess. Pokemon gets Charizard. Zelda has too many. I guess Medeus counts for Fire Emblem. Kirby has the ICE DRAGON.
 

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I want to see unmasked MK for sm4sh!
I think it'd be funny, since Meta Knight looks pretty adorable under that mask, and to hear that deep pseudo-Spanish accent coming out of a cute puff ball like what is basically a blue "Kirby" would be hilarious, I would say. I think they'd ought to have maskless MK as perhaps an alternate costume, maybe?
 

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I think it'd be funny, since Meta Knight looks pretty adorable under that mask, and to hear that deep pseudo-Spanish accent coming out of a cute puff ball like what is basically a blue "Kirby" would be hilarious, I would say. I think they'd ought to have maskless MK as perhaps an alternate costume, maybe?
Haha, I would love to see that :laugh:
 

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Not sure if I get the desire for Black Shadow.

Is it just so he can take Gannondorf's move set and old Ganny could get a more personalized one?

I think Gannondorf's move set is just going to evolve over the series. From Melee to Brawl, he received a new smash, a new special, a couple new tilts, and throws. I think in the next edition of Smash he will gain even more unique attacks.
 

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Not sure if I get the desire for Black Shadow.

Is it just so he can take Gannondorf's move set and old Ganny could get a more personalized one?

I think Gannondorf's move set is just going to evolve over the series. From Melee to Brawl, he received a new smash, a new special, a couple new tilts, and throws. I think in the next edition of Smash he will gain even more unique attacks.
I'm hoping for a revamp, but you're right. Not just the Melee clones, but everyone gets changes from sequel to sequel. It's just a part of design evolution. What? You don't think Ryu and Chun-Li got where they are in playstyle from just World Warrior, huh? Nope, that's 18 years of evolution (22 for Ryu technically).

By the way, that's not addressed to you, but to anyone reading it.
 

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I'm hoping for a revamp, but you're right. Not just the Melee clones, but everyone gets changes from sequel to sequel. It's just a part of design evolution. What? You don't think Ryu and Chun-Li got where they are in playstyle from just World Warrior, huh? Nope, that's 18 years of evolution (22 for Ryu technically).

By the way, that's not addressed to you, but to anyone reading it.
Ryu and Ken were exactly the same in the first Street Fighter, were they not?

Speaking of Ryu, I feel that Ryu would make a nice guest. Mario and Ryu have similar moves in some respects (rising punch, fireball) which invokes the Ken/Ryu rivalry that fans enjoyed over the years.
 

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Ryu would be a welcome addition to Smash, however I feel that if Capcom did indeed include a third-party character into Smash, it would be Mega Man.
 

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Ryu and Ken were exactly the same in the first Street Fighter, were they not?

Speaking of Ryu, I feel that Ryu would make a nice guest. Mario and Ryu have similar moves in some respects (rising punch, fireball) which invokes the Ken/Ryu rivalry that fans enjoyed over the years.
I believe the same thing. If Megaman doesn't rep Capcom in Sm4sh, then it's a fair and safe bet that Ryu would take up the baton, right?
 
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