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Anyone going in expecting "RIDLEY CONFIRMED" is going to find themselves severely disappointed. What I am looking forward to hearing is how is he approaching both games. What direction is being taken with both titles.
Indeed; I forget who said it a few pages back, but developers have to be as vague as possible regarding their games' development, as Sakurai was when he mentioned "thinking about" putting Pit in SSBU.

What will remain equally constant is the fanbase's ability to probe excessively deep into the simplest quotes. If anything, I'm expected a basic quip about how the game is just starting and patience will pay off.

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I figure, Marth and Krom take top priority, Ike is next with hig priority, and Roy is a "filler clone" added to beef up the roster if need be. (Like Brawl)

If Krom is chosen though, I can confidently say Roy, the king of filler characters, will not make it in Smash4.
I think Roy could be made unique if Sakurai wanted too, but I am afraid he would fall into the "Ganondorf mentality" where he wouldn't want to change him (Roy) too much so as to alienate Melee players. Krom won't run into that same problem. He can fill that role of being the balance between Marth and Ike.

Indeed; I forget who said it a few pages back, but developers have to be as vague as possible regarding their games' development, as Sakurai was when he mentioned "thinking about" putting Pit in SSBU.

What will remain equally constant is the fanbase's ability to probe excessively deep into the simplest quotes. If anything, I'm expected a basic quip about how the game is just starting and patience will pay off.

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It was me. The reason I can make that is a mixture of casually following how the video game industry works and my own collegiate studies. Really though it is just common sense.
 

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I'm surprised you haven't started a fad with that yet. Like Oasis's whole S thing. :laugh:
But I kinda want a title like that, so I'mma make one, but I'mma also only use it every so often.

So good night.
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Feels good havin' a title... ME GUSTA
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I've been posting it ("~His Knightliness Himself~, Johnknight1) for at least 7 years. Also, no one copies me, because they will never be as awesome as me.
I'm really beginning to have a strange feeling Genesect might have a good opportunity in the near future. Which would be fun since he would be a better choice than Zoroark or Victini in my opinion. I only wonder if there enough Zoroark or Victini fans to throw a fit in this case? Not sure how we would work having that big cannon on his back, but it would be interesting.
As do I. Personally, I might actually want him to get a movement in order to entertain us. :smirk:
Cutting Ike for Roy is a pretty dumb suggestion. :V

I mean like...its like making a mistake and correcting it by making the exact same mistake. V:
I don't think anyone with a brain is wanting to do this. Even though Roy is my favorite Fire Emblem character, Ike is the best Smash Bros. character from the series, behind only Marth. Roy might be up there, but it would require a lot more time, work, and effort than Marth or Ike. That will be true (to a much smaller extent) even if he is still a clone.

I still think Marth and Ike are pretty much locks for Smash Wii U and 3DS, because they are amongst the most popular characters in the Smash Bros franchise.
 

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I think Roy could be made unique if Sakurai wanted too, but I am afraid he would fall into the "Ganondorf mentality" where he wouldn't want to change him (Roy) too much so as to alienate Melee players. Krom won't run into that same problem. He can fill that role of being the balance between Marth and Ike.
Anything could happen if Sakurai wanted it too... he just doesn't :p


I'm really beginning to have a strange feeling Genesect might have a good opportunity in the near future. Which would be fun since he would be a better choice than Zoroark or Victini in my opinion. I only wonder if there enough Zoroark or Victini fans to throw a fit in this case? Not sure how we would work having that big cannon on his back, but it would be interesting.
Our numbers are growing...

Star, can you throw me your Genesect sig?
 

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As do I. Personally, I might actually want him to get a movement in order to entertain us. :smirk:
I don't know about a movement, I think Pokémon Black and White 2 will help him out. As it stands now, to my knowledge, he is the only legendary left to reveal. Considering his movie will likely be next in line he is still in the running. I guess.

Our numbers are growing...

Star, can you throw me your Genesect sig?
This one?



One question I still have about buggy boy is how his big ol' cannon on his back would affect his weight. Would that not make his handling very awkward? Just thinking a little bit intuitively about how he would play. He is always suggested, but people do not seem to have a clear idea on how he would play.
 

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I've been posting it ("~His Knightliness Himself~, Johnknight1) for at least 7 years. Also, no one copies me, because they will never be as awesome as me.

As do I. Personally, I might actually want him to get a movement in order to entertain us. :smirk:

I don't think anyone with a brain is wanting to do this. Even though Roy is my favorite Fire Emblem character, Ike is the best Smash Bros. character from the series, behind only Marth. Roy might be up there, but it would require a lot more time, work, and effort than Marth or Ike. That will be true (to a much smaller extent) even if he is still a clone.

I still think Marth and Ike are pretty much locks for Smash Wii U and 3DS, because they are amongst the most popular characters in the Smash Bros franchise.
And that, sir, is why I didn't use ~His Knightliness Himself~. :awesome:

Anyway, as much as I want Roy, I really don't know about his chances right now. On one hand, there's the Forbidden 7, but on the other, there's Krom. I just dunno... :urg:
 

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Meah, I think a lot of people want Roy back, while another group of people don't want any clones. Maybe a good "compromise" is to maintain that sense of "strength" Roy has and a bit of his play style while giving him a move set at least as original as... say... Lucas.

That way, everyone wins, and everyone is happy. Still, the execution of that depends on how happy everyone is. Last I checked, everyone who doesn't play Meta Knight is upset either at his inclusion or how broken he is.

@ Star
I got a feeling that there will be other Pokémon (at least 1 more), but he will be the only one to fit the Smash Bros. "mold." I think that the race will remain as Victini, Zoroark, and Genesect, although one or two of them might easily drop out of the "race."

@ Poppy
We can't be sure on Roy's or Krom's chances until we see Krom's game, his character, and his fighting style/potential. Once we get that, we can analyze who fits better. Even after that, both could get in along with Marth and Ike.
 

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I shouldn't have said sig, throw me the little support gif like the Krystal one I have.

Too bad for us though, not many people feel the same way about Genesect:


Pikachu (464)
Jigglypuff (333)
Mewtwo (318)
Pokemon Trainer Kanto (314)
Lucario (255)
Zoroark (172)
Victini (145)
Pichu (143)
Plusle & Minun (125)
Meowth (101)
Deoxys (77)
Pokemon Trainer Hoenn (74)
Pokemon Trainer Johto (67)
Pokemon Trainer Unova (61)
Pokemon Trainer Villain (52)
Pokemon Trainer Sinnoh (41)
Pokemon Trainer N (40)
Gardevior (37)
Genesect (28)
Darkrai (22)
 

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Here are some of my great ideas for SSB4:


For starters I just want to say that IF I had my way, SSB4 would probably be a new Melee: Sick graphics, same high level technical demand, gamecube controller compatible, highly balanced; maybe even hire some of the Melee pros to help design the characters since the melee pros probably know more about nitty gritty of smash than Sakurai does.

Unfortunately as you may already know Mashiro Sakurai has already said that he doesn't just want to make another Melee or Brawl.

I accept this fact . . . at least it wont be another Brawl... (not sure it that's a good thing or not.)

Anyway let's look at what he does want.
He said the 3Ds and the wii u should be two games and the 3ds version would more more personalized and focused on a player's statistics and what not, he also wants to encourage better players to be able to help out the not so good players.

Here's what I'm thinking: (By the way this would make new players far more likely to get into the competitive scene not to mention ensure the next smash is more technical if put in.)
Ok so what if the new smash gave you some sort of rank. And this rank is NOT determined by who you beat or how much you play. But rather given by the game and constantly changing from analyzing your tactics and your tech skill level.
Now in addition to a "rank" what if there was also an online DS network similar to helping players get better. Think of Smashboards combined with yahoo answers along with detailed beginner/advanced guides made by Nintendo.
Now in addition to those two things lets also imagine a training mode that people might actually want to use. I'm talking a very in-depth training mode for example you could chose from tons of different kinds of skills to improve on. Or you could crate a personalizxed "GET BETTER REGIMEN" sort of like Brain Age or Lumosity.com, "Perform 5 wave dashes in a row." 10 tomorrow, 15 the next day, 20. maybe show what buttons are being used on screen while simultaneously showing a short video clip of how it looks when performed. "The art of the ledge cancel." "Shuffling made easy."
Now one time I played some Yugioh game and there were these challenges where they put you in a situation and you had to win in one turn. What if SSB4 had something similar, I don't mean like event matches. I mean like: a timer counts down from 5 as two characters are fighting, then just as soon as it says 2 one character gets sent flying and now suddenly you have control, the time is up, and it says "RECOVER and KO the opponent!"
In Kirby's Air Ride there were challenges to see how far you could fly with your chosen Air Ride, what if each character had to cross a huge gap with the distance adjusted to their unique abilities. Imagine a 3 second countdown and then it says: "Reach the ledge"
Or maybe something for Speed run junkies similar to the Race To The Finish only character specific.
I thought Brawl was gay for having items in the target tests and also for only having 5 target tests. . . . actually I've been thinking brawl is pretty much gay all round. what with hardly any combos and tripping and the lack of wavedash and L cancel. I don't want to get off into a rant here but it would be nice if SSB4 wasn't for just babies. If your name is DHEF or Otori then you're obviously not a baby, but a super baby. Think "Baby Geniuses" it's a compliment really.
Now as someone who loves Melee I will say that Melee IS too fast. . . for ****.
and there's a ****load of ****.
But i don't actually care if it's not fast, just not slow, if the game is somewhere between Melee and Brawl and has actual combos and doesn't "promote homosexuality, erm i mean aerial battles." Then you can throw all the tripping and ****slipping you want in the game, hell get rid of Mario and link and replace them with a Bulborb from Pikmin or whatever the **** they're called, so long as I can combo a person and not feel sick to my stomach knowing that I have to get good the way a brawl player gets good.
Here's another good idea: You know how in other fighting games like street fighter it'll display words sometimes such as: Combo Breaker, or reversal, or tech, or counter!
What if Melee had something similar. Where when you did something challenging you're rewarded with a little "LEDGE CANCEL!" or WAVELAND! "L-CANCELED!" "SHFFL!" Similar to what's happening in this short clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhXSJBn808
. . .
What would be REALLY cool about this though is if you were to watch pro matches. Because every second there would be like 5 of these little messages so new players could really appreciate the good player's skill.
Let's see what else does this game need? Oh yeah! When the camera zooms out and my character is hiding behind his own damage and I can't see, I get pissed. Maybe when the damage is in front of a character, the damage meter could fade to transparent for a second. It's really annoying and I am aware that doing this could be bad when trying to combo a person and you can't read their damage but think of it this way: In a 1 on 1 match the only way for a character to be behind the damage meter is when another character goes flying, meaning . . . nowhere near the character behind the damage. Fact is, if all the on screen characters are behind your damage meter then something is wrong.
New Characters I'd like to see: (So many people are unrealistic when it comes to this but this is who I'd like to see)
Skull Kid
Bowser Jr
Captain Rainbow
Ridley
King K Rool
Krystal
Waluigi
Tingle
Mewtwo
King Boo
Lord Ghirahim
Young Link
Roy (with his own moveset)
Toon Zelda/Tetra
Toon Ganon
Paper Mario
Dr. Eggman
****ing Knuckles!
Two different Pokemon trainers, maybe actual characters from the show like Ash instead of "Pokemon trainer."

Also I sort of kind of wish that Olimar, G&W, R.O.B. and Lucario all miss the next SSB4 train.

Peace.

Discuss.

Do you agree with me? Do you think I should **** off? What are your ideas? Tell me!
 

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@ Star
I got a feeling that there will be other Pokémon (at least 1 more), but he will be the only one to fit the Smash Bros. "mold." I think that the race will remain as Victini, Zoroark, and Genesect, although one or two of them might easily drop out of the "race."
Honestly I don't think Victini is even a factor. I think the running is, and eventually will be, between Zoroark and Genesect. To understand this requires looking beyond the now and using foresight to see what the Pokémon field will look like by 2013. Really though that is too much work for a video game...

I shouldn't have said sig, throw me the little support gif like the Krystal one I have.

Too bad for us though, not many people feel the same way about Genesect:


Pikachu (464)
Jigglypuff (333)
Mewtwo (322)
Pokemon Trainer Kanto (314)
Lucario (255)
Zoroark (172)
Victini (145)
Pichu (143)
Plusle & Minun (125)
Meowth (101)
Deoxys (77)
Pokemon Trainer Hoenn (74)
Pokemon Trainer Johto (67)
Pokemon Trainer Unova (61)
Pokemon Trainer Villain (52)
Pokemon Trainer Sinnoh (41)
Pokemon Trainer N (40)
Gardevior (37)
Genesect (28)
Darkrai (22)
Trust me, there will be a shift once Genesect is "officially" unveiled by The Pokémon Company and Game Freak. The Pokémon dynamic will change within the next year. Bet on it. At the very least it is going to take Sakurai a year or two to finalize the roster.

 

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Honestly I don't think Victini is even a factor. I think the running is, and eventually will be, between Zoroark and Genesect. To understand this requires looking beyond the now and using foresight to see what the Pokémon field will look like by 2013. Really though that is too much work for a video game...



Trust me, there will be a shift once Genesect is "officially" unveiled by The Pokémon Company and Game Freak. The Pokémon dynamic will change within the next year. Bet on it. At the very least it is going to take Sakurai a year or two to finalize the roster.
I was one of the few people on this site that liked Genesect when he was first revealed :3

And yeah, I don't think Tini is a factor either... I think it's Zoroark.. and depending on if Genesect is revealed soon, he could be his competition. I see Sakurai having the roster done befor 2013... that's all I can say for sure.
 

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I was one of the few people on this site that liked Genesect when he was first revealed :3

And yeah, I don't think Tini is a factor either... I think it's Zoroark.. and depending on if Genesect is revealed soon, he could be his competition. I see Sakurai having the roster done befor 2013... that's all I can say for sure.
Nah, he won't have the roster completed before 2013. You forget, part of the decision making process for characters is negotiating licensing rights and other legal mumbo jumbo with the different subsidiaries within and apart from Nintendo. That is not an easy thing, and with the prospect of having more characters, or characters from new companies, this task just became even more difficult. I guarantee you if Game Freak and The Pokémon Company have plans to push Genesect by the time they get some calls, it would not take much for them to bring that to Sakurai's attention even before buggy is "unveiled". After all, look at Roy? Not to say they will strong arm Sakurai, but they can make suggestions they feel is in their licenses best interest.

My gut says Zoroark will luck out in the end, but after Black and White 2 I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm sick of bipedal canines, let's go with the insect with the giant cannon. There aren't too many of those in fighting games. Plus supposedly he is a predator and what not. That sounds pretty cool.
 

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@genesect: the problem might just be that he's not as well-known as the other contenders. zoroark and victini have both been promoted a whole lot already, but genesect is still officially hush-hush. my guess is that after he's announced, support will go up.

attackparty: what do you consider "unrealistic?" i mean, seeing as you'd add seven new zelda characters, four new mario characters, ANY additional sonic characters, and that you use the phrase "actual characters from the show" in reference to pokemon content. i mean, zelda's my all-time favorite series of anything ever, but i think even two newcomers is a touch ambitious. and pokemon's a game first, anything else second. if anything, it ought to be Red, not Ash. it occurs to me that this came off as very antagonistic. i didn't mean it that way at all, sorry if you felt that way.
 

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Well I guess the date is irrelevant considering all the contenders for playablity are all known at this point, and I DO NOT see anything from E3 2012 making it into Smash.
 

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I find it funny how if any other character were one of the most requested newcomers for Smash 4 in Japan, everyone in this thread would consider that character a shoe-in for Smash 4. People need to stop selling Roy short. Even Sakurai is aware of his Western popularity (even using a personal anecdote of a black man personally thanking him for including Roy in Melee as an example of Japan-only characters being well received worldwide). I also think that if Krom is in, Ike will be a hidden character, and Sakurai may even do an "last time there was a character named Ike in Smash Bros.... :troll:".

I really think people should wait until FE13 is released before making a proper assessment on character chances (just look at Medusa).
 

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I cannot stand Victini and Zoroark. The source of their popularity escapes me. A couple of eh movies? That's what skyrocketed the pair to fame? If you ask me, the illusion of their popularity is mostly fabricated. They're expected because they've had their names in the titles of movies. Expected, not necessarily wanted. As far as Pokemon go, they're neat. I like Victini and Zoroark in the world of Pokemon. Adding either of them to Smash Bros. would be really disappointing for me, though.

So yeah, pretty much Genesect. I have a feeling he'll have something to do with Black & White 2 (plus, I see him sharing a movie with Meloetta before 2013 is over), so there's the validation for why he has even a tiny chance.

As for qualitative arguments, just look at it. A prehistoric effing bug with a cannon attached to its back. It exudes anger and resentment like a certain other Pokemon that was genetically manipulated by humans. Plus, Bug/Steel types are the shiz (only weakness is Fire).
 

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I don't think you have to wait for FE13 to be released to know that the main character is going to be a usable candidate for Smash.
 

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Dr. Eggman
****ing Knuckles!
Two different Pokemon trainers, maybe actual characters from the show like Ash instead of "Pokemon trainer."
Urgh.
Why are people always asking for more Sonic characters? Isn't Sonic enough!?
Don't you guys think it's a TERRIBLE idea, putting more characters of one third party series, instead of putting, I dunno, characters from other companies!?
I'd like to see more Metal Gear and Sonic content, yes. But NOT CHARACTERS. Items, bosses, stages and ATs, but not any more characters.

Can someone please tell me I'm not alone, thinking like that?


PS: Calling Red "Ash" is like calling Link "Zelda".
 

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As for qualitative arguments, just look at it. A prehistoric effing bug with a cannon attached to its back. It exudes anger and resentment like a certain other Pokemon that was genetically manipulated by humans. Plus, Bug/Steel types are the shiz (only weakness is Fire).
genesect vs. mewtwo is actually one of the reasons i want genesect in this.
 

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Honestly I don't think Victini is even a factor. I think the running is, and eventually will be, between Zoroark and Genesect. To understand this requires looking beyond the now and using foresight to see what the Pokémon field will look like by 2013. Really though that is too much work for a video game...
I dunno. Genesect's reveal will increase his popularity, but he isn't automatically on equal footing with Victini or Zoroark... yet. He may be, though.

Overall I don't know what to expect. I will say that, unless Genesect's reveal is underwhelming, all 3 of them will stick around.

Also, Genesect's reveal won't kick Victini off. Maybe in terms of Pokémon popularity, but not Smash popularity. They are not the same. ;)

@ Chrono
If that happens with Ike (Sakurai talking about him like Ness on the Brawl Dojo when referring to Lucas being similar to Ness), I'm going to say instead of that deconfirming him like with Ness (deconfirmed isn't a word people; unconfirmed is!), I will go the opposite way and say it confirms him. :smirk:

@ Giant Breadbug
People want Victini and Zoroark because they look like they would be fun to play as in smash bros... most of the time. At least, that's why I would want them. :bee:
 

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I find it funny how if any other character were one of the most requested newcomers for Smash 4 in Japan, everyone in this thread would consider that character a shoe-in for Smash 4. People need to stop selling Roy short. Even Sakurai is aware of his Western popularity (even using a personal anecdote of a black man personally thanking him for including Roy in Melee as an example of Japan-only characters being well received worldwide). I also think that if Krom is in, Ike will be a hidden character, and Sakurai may even do an "last time there was a character named Ike in Smash Bros.... :troll:".

I really think people should wait until FE13 is released before making a proper assessment on character chances (just look at Medusa).
No one is selling Roy short. If you want to see that go to Gamefaqs, although I would recommend not doing so because it really is bad over there at the moment...

As for the last thing I really don't see Krom in the same position as Medusa. One third and all that you know.

I cannot stand Victini and Zoroark. The source of their popularity escapes me. A couple of eh movies? That's what skyrocketed the pair to fame? If you ask me, the illusion of their popularity is mostly fabricated. They're expected because they've had their names in the titles of movies. Expected, not necessarily wanted. As far as Pokemon go, they're neat. I like Victini and Zoroark in the world of Pokemon. Adding either of them to Smash Bros. would be really disappointing for me, though.

So yeah, pretty much Genesect. I have a feeling he'll have something to do with Black & White 2 (plus, I see him sharing a movie with Meloetta before 2013 is over), so there's the validation for why he has even a tiny chance.

As for qualitative arguments, just look at it. A prehistoric effing bug with a cannon attached to its back. It exudes anger and resentment like a certain other Pokemon that was genetically manipulated by humans. Plus, Bug/Steel types are the shiz (only weakness is Fire).
I think most of what you have said is on the mark. There is a lot of expectations as far as patterns are concerned. I think, however, that people need to stop holding onto their ideas of "how Sakurai is going to do business." Take a look at Nintendo as of late, they haven't been following the "norm" as of late. Two, no three, mainline Mario titles on one system? Two Kirby games on one console? Pokémon has an actual sequel? A Sin and Punishment game? I could go on and on, but you all are smart enough to know what I am driving at here.

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@ Star
Marth might be the main character of Fire Emblem 13, lulz. Kinda like how Ike showed up in Radiant Dawn and took over (although we saw it coming). Still, if Krom isn't the main character for say a third of the game, I think that could decrease his chances (because Sakurai actually plays those games).

Also, I own the word "I" Star. You owe me approximately $32,582.73 for using the word Star! :bee:
 

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Marth might be the main character of Fire Emblem 13, lulz. Kinda like how Ike showed up in Radiant Dawn and took over (although we saw it coming). Still, if Krom isn't the main character for say a third of the game, I think that could decrease his chances (because Sakurai actually plays those games).
Not going to happen, Krom is definitely the main lord of the game. How Marth fits into everything will be something worth finding out, but I doubt it will affect Krom's chances of crossing over into SSB.

Also, I own the word "I" Star. You owe me approximately $32,582.73 for using the word Star! :bee:
Good luck trying to receive payment from me, bub.
 

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People want Victini and Zoroark because they look like they would be fun to play as in smash bros... most of the time. At least, that's why I would want them. :bee:
What I don't get, though, is why they look so much more fun to play as than any other Pokemon. To me, they don't. I would think Garbodor would be interesting to play as, even though it gives me nightmares. There are more than 600 Pokemon, and all of them have potential to be interesting playable characters.
 

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What I don't get, though, is why they look so much more fun to play as than any other Pokemon. To me, they don't. I would think Garbodor would be interesting to play as, even though it gives me nightmares. There are more than 600 Pokemon, and all of them have potential to be interesting playable characters.
People see them as

A. Cool
B. Actually a good option (Has the right "stuff" to have a chance at being playable) Something Garbador lacks.
 

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Not going to happen, Krom is definitely the main lord of the game. How Marth fits into everything will be something worth finding out, but I doubt it will affect Krom's chances of crossing over into SSB.
Medusa was featured as the main villain for Kid Icarus to the point where she was even given an OVA and featured prominently on the inside cover art for Uprising. There were absolutely no hints given that Medusa's role was going to be much less than what it was hyped up to be.

I am not saying that Krom will be usurped by Marth (it most likely won't happen), however, it is possible for Marth to be elevated to be the second lord of FE13 (much like Ike in FE10).
 

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I dunno, I got a feeling zombie Marth might be the main Lord for a while... even a short while. If that happens, I might give the tip of the hat (in terms of chances) to my boi Roy.

And I already received payment Star. I went back into the past and killed your great-great-great-great-great grandfather's dog .5 seconds before it would have originally died. NOW WEEP IN PAIN BOI! WEEP IN PAIN FOR ME, MWYHAHAHAHAHA!!!

@ Giant
Let's be honest: It's as close to a shoe-in as you'll get that we'll get a 5th Generation Pokémon playable. And quite frankly, Victini and Zoroark (and Genesect, too) are amongst the best prospect playable smash bros character amongst all the 5th Generation Pokémon.
 

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False, no one is more fun to play as than Mewtwo. Tiers be damned, I liked that alien cat thing! I want him back. Deep voice and all. With some minor tweaks.
 

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False, no one is more fun to play as than Mewtwo. Tiers be damned, I liked that alien cat thing! I want him back. Deep voice and all. With some minor tweaks.
One Japanese suggestion for Mewtwo I saw specifically wanted him back due to the voice actor that voices him.
 

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One Japanese suggestion for Mewtwo I saw specifically wanted him back due to the voice actor that voices him.
Yes.

@ Star
I dunno, I got a feeling zombie Marth might be the main Lord for a while... even a short while. If that happens, I might give the tip of the hat (in terms of chances) to my boi Roy.

And I already received payment Star. I went back into the past and killed your great-great-great-great-great grandfather's dog .5 seconds before it would have originally died. NOW WEEP IN PAIN BOI! WEEP IN PAIN FOR ME, MWYHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I doubt it. Even if so, as I said before, I doubt the story itself will influence Smash Bros that much. If I didn't believe that than by all accounts Medusa should not even be a thought in anyone's mind. That is not the case though.

Psshh, Andrew Jackson probably did that already.
 

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People see them as

A. Cool
B. Actually a good option (Has the right "stuff" to have a chance at being playable) Something Garbador lacks.
A. That's subjective. I think they're generic and aesthetically trite. But I really don't see many people raving about how cool they are. The only people that I see doing that are reeeeeally dedicated fans.

B. I really don't get why they're good options. Because they're flavor-of-the-month and legendary? Because they're advertised? The only "stuff" that ups their shots is their (if you ask me, forced) presence in the Pokemon culture through films and online distributions.

Absolutely chance-wise these things matter, but shouldn't a game that's supposed to be celebrating Nintendo be able to do more than settle for what's plastered all over movies and digital distributions? Shouldn't the Pokemon representation at least somewhat cater to die-hard fans of the series? These aren't really questions of "if," but rather, "why?"

Mewtwo is awesome and Lucario is awesome, but can't a Trainer get some variety up in here? I know it probably won't happen, but it would be an ideal representation of what Pokemon stands for as a whole.

I'll just take my soapbox and leave now.
 

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I do think Roy is likely because of his popularity, but his inclusion would make me worried for Ike, who I consider a higher priority character. Shrug.

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I do think Roy is likely because of his popularity, but his inclusion would make me worried for Ike, who I consider a higher priority character. Shrug.

:phone:
Roy and Ike will be in. Masked Marth
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will be the FE13 character, voice actress voice included. :troll:

Seriously, if Roy does get in, Ike has nothing to worry about. At worst, Ike will be a hidden character.
 

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Nah I just saw that, 11 of the past 12 Super Bowl champions (between the last 2 teams), and many things coming due to people's body language. :cool:

If Sakurai's latest interview where someone asked if Pit would be in smash bros (forgetting he was in Brawl) was done on camera, I would be able to say whether Pit is 100% confirmed, unconfirmed, or not decided upon/on the fringe. But really, Pit's coming back... hopefully with less campy stally stupidness. Because Pit in Brawl SUCKED!!!

On a side note, if Masked Marth is the main Lord for a while, I CALLED IT! :awesome:
I doubt it. Even if so, as I said before, I doubt the story itself will influence Smash Bros that much. If I didn't believe that than by all accounts Medusa should not even be a thought in anyone's mind. That is not the case though.

Psshh, Andrew Jackson probably did that already.
I think it will, solely because Sakurai will judge Krom in it. As Sakurai has admitted, he is a Fire Emblem fan. And from what I can tell, Sakurai likes Marth, Roy, and Ike a lot. Especially Marth.

Also, don't worry. I killed Michael Bay in the past... but I accidentally shot Giddy Lee thinking he was Ozzy Osbourne. Seriously, they look the same!
 

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A. That's subjective. I think they're generic and aesthetically trite. But I really don't see many people raving about how cool they are. The only people that I see doing that are reeeeeally dedicated fans.

B. I really don't get why they're good options. Because they're flavor-of-the-month and legendary? Because they're advertised? The only "stuff" that ups their shots is their (if you ask me, forced) presence in the Pokemon culture through films and online distributions.
Yes, and yes.

A is subjective, OF COURSE. What you like is subjective, I like Genesect, not Victini. Why? Because I do. I think Tini is lame. I also like Suicune over all other Pokemon.

Who am I rooting for? The Pokemon who have a shot. The ones who are advertised, the ones who have the popularity from the fans, and promotion to back them up. That's atm, Mewtwo, Victini, and Zoroark... I pick Mewtwo and Zoroark.

IF Genesect gets his act together in time, I'll root for him, but until then, I'm sitting behind Zoroark. Why? Because I like him a decent amount, BUT HE HAS A SHOT. Suicune doesn't... so why waste your time rooting for something that wont happen. Theres a difference between dreaming, and delusions.
 

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Yeah... as much as I love :009: , :009: has no shot at being playable. Therefore, I stick behind the Pokémon I think has even a miniscule shot, which has been about a dozen different Pokémon dating back to the pre-Brawl times. :laugh:

Currently, only Victini, Zoroark, Gensect, and maybe Plusle and Minun have a shot at being playable IMO, aside from all past playable Pokémon.

Edit: @ Shortie
Your point on the likelihood was spot on. That is where support for characters' logic differentiates Smash Boards from most other Smash sites, boards, forums, etc. We all have our guilty pleasures (mine include Geno, :009: , and Knuckles), but most of us here are smart enough to realize they are just guilty pleasures w/ little to no shot at being playable.
 

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Ah whatever, at the end of the day all I care about is certain injustices are righted. The foremost of those being Earthbound get's some proper respect.

This video makes me want to cry. :'(
http://youtu.be/QrDPJP6HSS0
 
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