New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Aaven]

The inclusion of both Toon Link AND Young Link would be very interesting, but it would be one VERY annoying Doubles Team.

 

[Esotera]

My Smash 4 wish list:
buff lucas, link, ness, and hyrule characters excluding TL (I think it's a probability that he won't even be playable)
nerf mk (who doesn't want this)
nerf diddy (just a small one)
as far as new members of the cast I would love to see:
moar pokemon
another LoZ character
Sora

 

[Lukingordex]

My Smash 4 wish list:
buff lucas, link, ness, and hyrule characters excluding TL (I think it's a probability that he won't even be playable)
nerf mk (who doesn't want this)
nerf diddy (just a small one)
as far as new members of the cast I would love to see:
moar pokemon
another LoZ character
Sora

You forgot Yoshi and jigglypuff at the buff list.

 

[Aurane]

did you intentionally cut lucas and brawl's trainer? that and master chief are the only areas i disagree with you. adding both young link and toon link was an interesting move (not in a bad way, mind you).

Master Chief was a joke. See the comment next to it.

I keep hearing "BLAH BLAH IMPA!" and "**** NO, TINGLE!" So, I just went with the classics.

Besides, YLink, in my opinion, is better than both of those tin-****tards anyways.

 

[Wizzrobe]

The inclusion of both Toon Link AND Young Link would be very interesting, but it would be one VERY annoying Doubles Team.

It may sound cool but in reality it would be awful. One clone of Link was enough, Having two clones of Link would be really stupid.

 

[Lukingordex]

Master Chief was a joke. See the comment next to it.

I keep hearing "BLAH BLAH IMPA!" and "**** NO, TINGLE!" So, I just went with the classics.

Besides, YLink, in my opinion, is better than both of those tin-****tards anyways.

YLink don´t need much buff,he is already good in Brawl,but seriously,what you want are a buff for your favourites,you don´t want a more balanced game,you want your favorites at the top... (Like me XD)

 

[Aurane]

It may sound cool but in reality it would be awful. One clone of Link was enough, Having two clones of Link would be really stupid.

Then **** toon link and add Ghirahim. Problem solved.

The roster was more of a "Oh, that'd be cool" kind of thing.

YLink don´t need much buff,he is already good in Brawl,but seriously,what you want are a buff for your favourites,you don´t want a more balanced game,you want your favorites at the top... (Like me XD)

This guy... He gets me! Holy sheet... Guys, read that bold, and that defines me quite nicely.

**** compo, thumbs casual, *****es.

Inb4hurtedcompo

 

[Johnknight1]

Toon Link in Brawl was a pretty well-balanced character. Just weaken his combos a bit and allow him to have a better juggling ability.

Also shorts, good roster. The only thing I agree on is that furry abomination next to Fox, Falco, and Wolf.

 

[Wizzrobe]

I would love for Ghirahim to get in Smash 4.

 

[Johnknight1]

Shhh... supporting Ghirahim means your opinion is WRONNNGGGG!!!!










<<< Support that BAMF instead!

 

[Lukingordex]

For me Team Rocket,Team Magma,Team Aqua,Team Galactic and Team Plasma will be cool if they join SSB4,but i don´t think that will happen

 

[Baskerville]

The wait for this reveal is getting more boring then exiting.... Dunno why. =/

 

[Wizzrobe]

The wait for this reveal is getting more boring then exiting.... Dunno why. =/

Yea, I am getting tired of waiting for an announcement.

 

[Johnknight1]

If you were here pre-Brawl (as in before the name or trailer was revealed), you'd know this could have down time. This is where you should learn how to debate characters, game play, story mode stuff, the direction of the game, etc., as well learn what you want, what you support, why you support it, how you can support, when you should mention you support it (without being annoying), etc.

Also, this is where we can learn some base information about what people want before we have characters revealed once the game is revealed, which will definitely influence people's decisions. So we can get a more "pure" idea as to which characters people actually want to play as.

 

[Sage of Ice]

wizzrobe: simple fix - don't make them both clones.

asage: maybe toon link and young link could both be called young link, and be alternate characters like everyone says about dr. mario.

johnknight: then i'm proudly wrong. ghirahim's one of my favorite zelda villains, and blastoise is my least-favorite kanto starter. i'm all bass-ackwards.

 

[Lukingordex]

Cyndaquil for SSB4!!!!!

 

[GiantBreadbug]

I know. I mean, I don't know what to expect at E3 Smash Bros. wise. I'd say they'll pressure the sh*t out of Sakurai to get at least 5 newcomers in mind for a cinematic trailer, but that would be the most I expect. Either way, all these devs saying how Nintendo's going to blow us away with the full Wii U reveal has me excited.

I need E3 to get here.

 

[Wizzrobe]

I know. I mean, I don't know what to expect at E3 Smash Bros. wise. I'd say they'll pressure the sh*t out of Sakurai to get at least 5 newcomers in mind for a cinematic trailer, but that would be the most I expect. Either way, all these devs saying how Nintendo's going to blow us away with the full Wii U reveal has me excited.

I need E3 to get here.

Yea hopefully we'll get a decent announcement. And I can't wait for Wii U announcements, I'm hoping they will announce Starfox Wii U.

 

[Aurane]

Shhh... supporting Ghirahim means your opinion is WRONNNGGGG!!!!










<<< Support that BAMF instead!

I agree, you're quite right, sir!

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Giant
Simple Giant: Don't have expectations. I think we will get a few characters shown (I hope), maybe a few pictures, some talk about the two games' direction, and a title revealed. A small teaser clip might be at E3, but overall don't expect anything.

However, we definitely will have a trailer by years' end. You can book it. And guys, don't hold Sakurai to the "6 newcomers now" standard. It's stupid. His focus should be on making the basic concepts of the two games now, not hyping it. Nintendo should begin hyping it a year from now on a regular basis.

 

[Aurane]

@ Giant
Simple Giant: Don't have expectations. I think we will get a few characters shown (I hope), maybe a few pictures, some talk about the two games' direction, and a title revealed. A small teaser clip might be at E3, but overall don't expect anything.

However, we definitely will have a trailer by years' end. You can book it. And guys, don't hold Sakurai to the "6 newcomers now" standard. It's stupid. His focus should be on making the basic concepts of the two games now, not hyping it. Nintendo should begin hyping it a year from now on a regular basis.

Well, he showed Wario, Meta Knight, ZSamus, Pit, and Snake at the beggining...
Expect 5

 

[Johnknight1]

Asage, that was after about 9 months of development with Brawl, and he had planned the game for a year.

Sakurai has probably only had a month of developing TWO NEW GAMES (and two to three months to brainstorm, plus some time before and while working on Kid Icarus: Uprising), and will have had about 4 months by E3 2012.

This is why I'm saying that Nintendo World or some Nintendo Event in Fall is when we most likely will get the first (real) trailer. That will be about 9 months plus, and likely we will get some big stuff by then. It will come... just be patient and play some Smash to let the time pass.

Edit: Play smash and speculate to let time pass. Oh, and listen to ~His Knightly~ opinions, cause he's smert like a ganius!

 

[Aurane]

Asage, that was after about 9 months of development with Brawl, and he had planned the game for a year.

Sakurai has probably only had a month of developing TWO NEW GAMES (and two to three months to brainstorm, plus some time before and while working on Kid Icarus: Uprising), and will have had about 4 months by E3 2012.

Ah-bubu! Remember, Sakurai was talking about the 3DS's cancelation, remember? Not comfirming it, but in a meeting with Iwata and Sakurai, even Iwata questioned the thought, but Sakurai hammered that too. I'll go find the link real quick, here...

But to my point, if the 3DS is canceled, we can then expect 5 or 4. As of now, we could expect 3 to the maximum. Victini being one of them, obviously

~Victory over Illusions~

EDIT: Here's the part of the meeting, found in the OP:
- Sakurai "Anyway, I look forward to the people you bring to this project, since the success of it is dependent on who you gather for me! Still, even if you don't gather enough people, I wouldn't want to see the project stretched thin, so we could focus on only one system." Iwata: "What? Even after we announced at e3 that we'll be developing for both systems?!" Sakurai: "Well either that or I take a small team and we take five years"

Which leads to my next question: Do we care about a SSB3DS versus release date?

*waits*

 

[Johnknight1]

I doubt the 3DS Smash Bros. game will be cancelled. How it could work out is that one could be worked on first, and then the other could be released later, although I doubt one would be released more than a few months or a year or so earlier than the other. My bet would be that the 3DS smash could be released first, and then the Wii U Smash would be released after that.

Also, I have a feeling Iwata got not just all 3 of the Brawl developers back and a new staff, but HAL as well. Which means these games could be developed much quicker. In other words, the staff will be about 150-200 people if my estimates are right, instead of the 100 or so person staff for Brawl.

 

[Aurane]

I doubt the 3DS Smash Bros. game will be cancelled. How it could work out is that one could be worked on first, and then the other could be released later.

Also, I have a feeling Iwata got not just all 3 of the Brawl developers back and a new staff, but HAL as well. Which means these games could be developed much quicker. In other words, the staff will be about 150-200 people if my estimates are right, instead of the 100 or so person staff for Brawl.

*...Sees answer*

Wow. Did I miss something? HAL is coming back, too? Thank god...

 

[Baskerville]

Well, at least we'll see some WiiU announcements. SHOW ME DAT PIKMIN NINTENDO!

 

[Johnknight1]

@ asage
No, nothing is confirmed about HAL coming back. It's merely a "gut feeling" I have. Plus, figuring that Sakurai liked working with HAL, HAL is efficient (and bigger than they were when making Melee), and that Sakurai considers Melee to be the best smash bros game, I doubt he wouldn't bring HAL back. Besides, they are smash bros super veteran game makers. They should return, dagnabbit!

Edit: Besides, these are two games, and twice or nearly twice the staff size is needed in order to make these games good, fast, and efficiently. And who is better at that with our beloved Smash Bros. franchise then HAL=???

 

[Aurane]

Well, at least we'll see some WiiU announcements. SHOW ME DAT PIKMIN NINTENDO!

*Denied*

 

[Johnknight1]

Pikmin gets a new main character: Geno.

Everyone jumps on the Geno bandwagon.

 

[Aurane]

Pikmin gets a new main character: Geno.

Everyone jumps on the Geno bandwagon.

My god... JUST LET HIM IN SO EVERYONE WILL STFU!

/ragequits

I hate Geno so ****ing bad due to DEM folks... You know... The Puppet Spammers... T_T

 

[Baskerville]

My god... JUST LET HIM IN SO EVERYONE WILL STFU!

/ragequits

I hate Geno so ****ing bad due to DEM folks... You know... The Puppet Spammers... T_T

Geno is overrated as ****. Never saw any appeal of that character.

 

[Johnknight1]

Yeah some Geno fans are over the top.

Yet most of us (that are still around) are laid back, cool, retro, and pretty much all around god-like speculators!

 

[Aurane]

Geno is overrated as ****. Never saw any appeal of that character.

This.

Yeah some Geno fans are over the top.

"Over the top*? They're flying around Mt. Everest's piniccle right now! *glares to the side* Dem Geno-porters...

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Falchion
Play Super Mario RPG. Then you will say "overrated" no more...

Heck, I don't even think Geno is even "rated."

The only reason a fan base grew to support him is because Sakurai mentioned Geno 3 times on his pre-Brawl site thing.

If I remember correctly, only two other characters were mentioned that many times and not playable (they are Krystal and Takamaru).

@ asage
I don't see them anymore around here. I ignore GameFAQs, and you should too.

 

[Baskerville]

@ John
I have. Its good but it didn't give me many great memories as Thousand Year Door.

 

[Wizzrobe]

I loved SMRPG so I think it would be cool to see GENO is smash 4.

I just want to see what his moveset would be.

 

[Aurane]

@ asage
I don't see them anymore around here. I ignore GameFAQs, and you should too.

Mt. Everest: GameFAQ Example in a hidden fasion.

*SUCESS*

 

[Lukingordex]

GENO at SSB4?

 

[Sage of Ice]

geno is way overhyped. that's my issue with him. sure he's an interesting character, but not to the point that so many people ought to be foaming at the mouth over him. i don't think he's overly likely to be in smash - as a mario character, there are better picks; as a square enix character, there are more prominent picks. even if SE signed on for a character inclusion, they'd probably request someone from one of their own major properties like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest.

all things considered, i wouldn't mind geno. but i don't see it happening. (though still more likely than my personal picks for third party.)

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I had never joined the Geno bangwagon because there is only one legendary and likely Square rep, Black Mage. We all know Final Fantasy is the #1 popular SE franchise that been around for a while with a major fanbase. He did crossover with Mario a few times, as well as the fact that several Final Fantasy games were on Nintendo consoles/handhelds. He is a rather ionic character, but nowhere near as popular as Slime, though. He would have a unique moveset as another magic user, along with a few elements. Sorry, I had grew up with and played Final Fantasy instead of Super Mario RPG.