New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Kirby-reps...

Bandana Dee. He'd representate the main mooks of Kirby-series. Also we'd have all the playable characters from RTDL.

At least the bandanna will separate the playable Waddle Dee from the generic Waddle Dees, which will probably end up as Adventure Mode enemies.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Roy didn't exist prior to Melee. If relevancy was the biggest reason, we would've had Leaf as Marth's clone.
And Ike was put in at Intelligent Systems' suggestion, not because he was new.
Yes, Sakurai was looking for a new Fire Emblem character, but it could've been anyone that debuted after Binding Blade as Sakurai wasn't specifically looking for the newEST character. (Which would've been Micaiah anyway)

Ike was more of a main character in RD than Micaiah, and Fire Emblem was basically dead around the time of Melee. Roy was actually Sakurai's idea. It's safe to say he got ties with IS, so I think its highly probable they'll suggest him to put in Chrome this time.

 

[---]

Thanks so much TriHy...

Spoiler

but I saw that coming, too. I wonder what she'll be like... maybe not a huge eyewall of DOOM maybe but anyway.

Oops, sorry. I hope I didn't give anyway too much.

Spoiler

It was rather obvious though...

Who knows if she's really the final boss... but I wish to see a serious, and even moving ending for KIU.

That's the spirit. lol

 

[shinhed-echi]

Shinheeed!!! *Palutena's Glomp*

You visit way too rarely in here, it'd be great to discuss things with DA-friend like you.

Sonic could use his Boost for Side B, plz.

OH HEY! And only now I notice it. I must be really infrequent to both DA and here. XD


As much as it'd be cool to have a boost move, I wonder if they'd manage to make it balanced somehow?

It's a good alternative to Side+b though. I'd like to see an official Shadow and Metal Sonic recolor. Silver could be the new AT.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I just had random yet hopefully badass idea for James McCloud (F-Zero, not Star Fox):

What if he got into Smash with a similar moveset to Fox, BUT... these moves would be a more human take on Fox's moves?

As in, instead of the small blaster that Fox has, James would have a machine gun/rapid fire-like laser blaster or instead of Fox Illusion, his version of it would be a really fast dash followed by smacking the opponent out of the way (as in, literally using his hand/strength to smack them in the air)

Like I said, really random, but what do y'all think?

 

[Deleted member]

Ike was more of a main character in RD than Micaiah, and Fire Emblem was basically dead around the time of Melee. Roy was actually Sakurai's idea. It's safe to say he got ties with IS, so I think its highly probable they'll suggest him to put in Chrome this time.

Uh, no. The latest game was 1999. Melee was 2001. That's only two years apart.
FE4 to FE5 was 3 years apart (1996-1999).
That is NOT considered dead.
Especially seeing as a game was in production during Melee's time (hence why Roy was an advertisment)

Look, I've already said I believe Krom is legitimate competiton, stop trying to act as though it will be for 100% fact that Krom will be over Roy. It's that type of attitude that made I*** a sin.

@Metal: That would be interesting and random, but do we need another "Fox clone"? Lol.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Shinhed: I think boost would some speedy mismash of Fox Illusion and Egg Roll. Ya know, like Sonic going through enemies and being pretty fast during that. It should be recharged during time like Wario Fart so the invisible "boost gauge" would fill up. (-l,l-)

Metal: James in Smash would make Fox go GAAAGAAAAAH

 

[ChronoBound]

I am also wondering whether Sakurai will even approach Intelligent Systems this time about a Fire Emblem newcomer. When Sakurai started development on Brawl, there were six new lords to the series introduced after Roy, and three completely new games (with a fourth new game in development and even ending up being released nearly a full year before Brawl did). He had to go to IS to make sure that the FE newcomer for Brawl would be the best possible choice at the time (Ike definitely was even with Micaiah becoming the most recent lord). By comparison, while there have been three new Fire Emblem games since Brawl's release, two of them were remakes with Marth as the lord, with only one truly new game with a new lord (and even then Marth in some form has a major role in it). I think Sakurai will likely buy FE13, and perhaps use his own judgment as to whether Krom should be added.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Golden- It's the only thing I could think of. lol

 

[Wario Bros.]

Metal: We already have Falco and Wolf so I think FZ James McCloud (you way you want it, at least) wouldn't be that great.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Well, I tried I guess. hahaha

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Uh, no. The latest game was 1999. Melee was 2001. That's only two years apart.
FE4 to FE5 was 3 years apart (1996-1999).
That is NOT considered dead.
Especially seeing as a game was in production during Melee's time (hence why Roy was an advertisment)

Look, I've already said I believe Krom is legitimate competiton, stop trying to act as though it will be for 100% fact that Krom will be over Roy. It's that type of attitude that made I*** a sin.

@Metal: That would be interesting and random, but do we need another "Fox clone"? Lol.

First of All Roy was in SSBM for the sole reason of advertising for the newest game the one that Shouzo Kaga the (original creator of the franchise) didn't work on which will bring doubts to the hardcore fans....

I don't really think that Fire Emblem : Sealed Sword is relevant enough to continue advertising for.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3mAnZ40dgI&feature=player_embedded

Just look at Krom and how the game is looking....this a Fire Emblem that was made to become popular and Sell....and Sugita Tomokazu is doing Krom is voice and he is a very popular Seiyuu.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Don't do it Golden... don't do it...

 

[Deleted member]

Fine. I won't do it. Because clearly, I'd be dealing with a foo, and Mr. T has taught me to pity the foo.

So I pity xXIke-SamaXx and his poor reading comprehension and judgement, and will end it there.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fine. I won't do it. Because clearly, I'd be dealing with a foo, and Mr. T has taught me to pity the foo.

So I pity xXIke-SamaXx and his poor reading comprehension and judgement, and will end it there.

You don't see the bigger picture you can't deny that every lord in the Fire Emblem series have gotten in SSB because of relevancy.

 

[Deleted member]

You don't see the bigger picture you can't deny that every lord in the Fire Emblem series have gotten in SSB because of relevancy.

And yes, I can deny it. Because it's a load of horse****.
Next you'll be saying Zero Suit Samus got in for sex appeal.

EDIT: Wait, I just noticed that you said every lord. So what, now you're saying Marth was due to relevancy?

 

[ChronoBound]

First of All Roy was in SSBM for the sole reason of advertising for the newest game the one that Shouzo Kaga the (original creator of the franchise) didn't work on which will bring doubts to the hardcore fans....

I don't really think that Fire Emblem : Sealed Sword is relevant enough to continue advertising for.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3mAnZ40dgI&feature=player_embedded

Just look at Krom and how the game is looking....this a Fire Emblem that was made to become popular and Sell....and Sugita Tomokazu is doing Krom is voice and he is a very popular Seiyuu.

Kaga was not involved with ANY of the Fire Emblem games after Thracia 776 (FE5), so I have no idea why you are singling out FE6.

Also, Jun Fukuyama (Roy's voice actor) is a major voice actor too. He voiced Lelouch (the main protagonist of Code Geass), and won multiple awards for his role as him. Interestingly enough, Norio Wakamoto voiced the main antagonist on that show (I say that if Roy and Black Shadow show up for Smash 4 they will be among the last characters unlocked).

 

[Deleted member]

Also, Jun Fukuyama (Roy's voice actor) is a major voice actor too. He voiced Lelouch (the main protagonist of Code Geass), and won multiple awards for his role as him. Interestingly enough, Norio Wakamoto voiced the main antagonist on that show (I say that if Roy and Black Shadow show up for Smash 4 they will be among the last characters unlocked).

You mentioned Code Geass, Lelouch, and Emperor Wakamoto in the same sentence.

This video must now be posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF3k1gImDm0&feature=related

 

[yani]

You don't see the bigger picture you can't deny that every lord in the Fire Emblem series have gotten in SSB because of relevancy.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Kaga was not involved with ANY of the Fire Emblem games after Thracia 776 (FE5).

Also, Jun Fukuyama (Roy's voice actor) is a major voice actor too. He voiced Lelouch (the main protagonist of Code Geass), and won multiple awards for his role as him.

Roy is one of my favorite lords in Fire Emblem him , Eliwood, Leaf, Hector,Sigurd and I might have some affection to Marth to.... and Ike is my favorite character of all time....but the way Krom is protrayed is very similar to Ike which makes me worry that he will be a competition but nonetheless , I keep in my mind every kind of possibility that way you don't get disappointed... I'm against bringing back cut characters because if they bring one or two back it will be seriously unfair to other characters....I don't mind Roy coming back at all but I don't want him hindering the chances of newer characters...

 

[Deleted member]

Ike wields a two-handed sword with one hand.
Krom does not.

If anything, Marth, Krom, and Ike would be just like the guys from the original Final Fight.

Marth would be the Guy of the trio: The fastest, but the weakest.
Ike would be the Haggar of the trio: The strongest, but the slowest.
Krom would be the Cody of the trio: Middle ground on both speed and strength.

And if bringing back characters that were cut for time restraints is a sin, then Capcom sinned for bringing back T. Hawk and Dee Jay into Super Street Fighter IV, as they were cut for time from the original Street Fighter IV.

And seriously? "Unfair"?

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

lol. This is how Gordos get to other planets. XD

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Ike wields a two-handed sword with one hand.
Krom does not.

If anything, Marth, Krom, and Ike would be just like the guys from the original Final Fight.

Marth would be the Guy of the trio: The fastest, but the weakest.
Ike would be the Haggar of the trio: The strongest, but the slowest.
Krom would be the Cody of the trio: Middle ground on both speed and strength.

Dude your logic is wrong Krom style is totally a copycat of Vanguard Ike style he even do the jump strike like Ike and put the sword on the ground Krom = Rough sword style same as Ike Marth = a Fencer+Elegance...

 

[ChronoBound]

Dude your logic is wrong Krom style is totally a copycat of Vanguard Ike style he even do the jump strike like Ike and put the sword on the ground Krom = Rough sword style same as Ike Marth = a Fencer+Elegance...

Which is why Sakurai will just pass on Krom.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Ike wields a two-handed sword with one hand.
Krom does not.

If anything, Marth, Krom, and Ike would be just like the guys from the original Final Fight.

Marth would be the Guy of the trio: The fastest, but the weakest.
Ike would be the Haggar of the trio: The strongest, but the slowest.
Krom would be the Cody of the trio: Middle ground on both speed and strength.

And if bringing back characters that were cut for time restraints is a sin, then Capcom sinned for bringing back T. Hawk and Dee Jay into Super Street Fighter IV, as they were cut for time from the original Street Fighter IV.

And seriously? "Unfair"?

Capcom is a ****ing joke company don't please compare to a good company like Nintendo all those Capcom jerk-offs want is your money...they even make you pay to unlock character in your Disk...

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Which is why Sakurai will just pass on Krom.

TBH if Ike stays in the roster good enough for me but my only wish he updates his look to the latest game.

 

[Deleted member]

Dude your logic is wrong Krom style is totally a copycat of Vanguard Ike style he even do the jump strike like Ike and put the sword on the ground Krom = Rough sword style same as Ike Marth = a Fencer+Elegance...

Can you get any MORE ********? Use your BRAIN because clearly, it's been turned off this whole discussion.

I was comparing how the three blue haired swordsmen would be compared: Marth, with faster, weaker style, Ike, with slower, stronger style, and Krom in the middle; faster than Ike, slower than Marth, Stronger than Marth, weaker than Ike.

Because in case you haven't been paying attention, Krom's sword is not at all like Ike's. Ike is swinging a frigging heavy two-handed sword with one hand as a testiment to his strength.
Krom is clearly not wielding a two-handed sword, as his sword is the same as "Marth's", and I doubt even the Marth we know could lift that sword in one hand.

And so what if Krom uses similar strikes to Ike? Doesn't mean that he's the SAME STRENGTH or the SAME SPEED, now does it? But nooooo....you have to be a little ***** and try to denounce my "logic", which had nothing to do with the way they use their swords anyway!
And a "copycat"? So just by what litle we know Krom can do, he's obviously going to be an Ike clone? What's next, you're going to say Lucario is a Mewtwo copycat just because Aura Sphere is similar to Shadow Ball?

You know what, I've had enough of you and your stupidity. Instead of pitying the foo, I'm just going to set the foo on Block since he's a foo that will never change.

 

[Arcadenik]

No one wants Krom. No one wants new Fire Emblem characters. Everyone only wants Marth, Roy, and Ike.

*Sakurai adds Krom in SSB4*

People suddenly love Krom.

This is going to happen if Krom gets in. Mark my words.

 

[Deleted member]

Capcom is a ****ing joke company don't please compare to a good company like Nintendo all those Capcom jerk-offs want is your money...they even make you pay to unlock character in your Disk...

LOL. You think that by flaming Capcom, your argument has any merit?

Learn to not be a *******.

EDIT: Now with that little N00Blet set on Ignore, I don't have to see any of his ****. Praise White Jesus.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Krom is an awesome character, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1--zgyKWIs&feature=related this video show why he is awesome (the one doing Krom voice is the same guy doing white haired dude Gintoki) every time I look at this guy I see Krom...

EDIT: Golden , I've been polite with you this whole time hope you appreciate it and stop using such insults....this my opinion....and it seems you ignored because you acknowledged how flawed is your arguments.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Because I felt left out

On topic, arcadenik, Krom does have a little following. I think most people don't mind chrome as long as Roy is in too.

 

[Jakor]

Hmm... I was looking at something.

Smash 64 introduced 12 new characters.
Melee introduced 13 new characters.
Brawl introduced 15 new characters.

So is it unrealistic to think there will be 20 new characters in the next Smash? Given the capabilities and power of the Wii U, and the game also being designed for the 3DS, I think it could happen, making a total of 55 characters, although there might be returning veterans within that (Mewtwo, Roy, etc.), bringing the total of newcomers to something like 18 instead.

 

[Arcadenik]

Hmm... I was looking at something.

Smash 64 introduced 12 new characters.
Melee introduced 13 new characters.
Brawl introduced 15 new characters.

So is it unrealistic to think there will be 20 new characters in the next Smash? Given the capabilities of the Wii U, and the game being designed also for the 3DS, I think it could happen.

Correction.

Melee introduced 14 newcomers. Remember Sheik?
Brawl introduced 18 newcomers. Remember Red's Pokemon, Zero Suit Samus, and Toon Link?

 

[Jakor]

Correction.

Melee introduced 14 newcomers. Remember Sheik?
Brawl introduced 18 newcomers. Remember Red's Pokemon, Zero Suit Samus, and Toon Link?

Yeah, but I'm talking about the actual number of slots in the roster.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Correction.

Melee introduced 14 newcomers. Remember Sheik?
Brawl introduced 18 newcomers. Remember Red's Pokemon, Zero Suit Samus, and Toon Link?

Melee introduced 14 newcomers......

Brawl introduced 18 newcomers - 7 melee newcomers....

so should we expect the next SSB will have 9 characters cut.... ?

 

[Arcadenik]

Brawl did not cut 7 Melee characters. Only 5 characters were cut. Dr. Mario, Young Link, Pichu, Mewtwo, and Roy.

 

[Jakor]

And the characters cut from Melee were actually ok, except for Mewtwo and Roy, who could be brought back.

 

[ChronoBound]

I feel the cutting of Young Link was pretty much in name only, which explains why Pichu and Young Link are the least missed of the cut Melee characters. I think if Sakurai has extra time he will seriously consider bringing back Dr. Mario as a costume since there are too many people who would whine if he showed up with a slot again.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I feel the cutting of Young Link was pretty much in name only, which explains why Pichu and Young Link are the least missed of the cut Melee characters.

Chrono I'm sorry for doubting Thracia 776 before...it's undeniably the best Fire Emblem game ever....Wish Othin was a viable character for SSB he would be a demon with his Pugi Axe xD.

 

[Jakor]

My point is that actually expecting a little more than 50 characters isn't impossible.